billsbackto81 Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 1 hour ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Taylor has a 5.7 yards per carry career stat line (same as Allen.)Cam Newton averages 5 even. Vick is 7. So I think that puts him on that list. No. Allen has 76 starts in 5 years Vick has 115 starts in 13 years Cam has 144 starts in 11 years Tryhard has 53 starts in 12 years. Not exactly apples to apples comparison. The body of work just isn't there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 HAHAHAHAHA 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 THROW THE EFFIN BALL ALREADY!!! 2 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 My favorite performance was his running ability in the 2015 game against the Titans. I know he converted on some 3rd and longs just with his legs. It broke that Titans losing streak as well going back to 2000. That and a game that same year against the Cowboys where he converted on like a 3rd and 8 play with his legs with some pretty nifty movies to keep the drive going and ice that game. The win was meaningless that year but it still felt good to beat the Cowboys. Tyrod was all right for what he was a solid backup/bridge QB. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal2dagame Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Chick's dig the long ball. Tyrod didn't have one. He was a serviceable QB. Nothing more, nothing less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, Dopey said: THROW THE EFFIN BALL ALREADY!!! I can't believe I didn't throw something at the TV yelling that 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 15 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Taylor did that for 3 seasons as a starter for his whole career. 5.7 is Daniel Jones level stuff—does he remind you of Vick and Newton as well? come on. TT tan around a lot because he couldn’t go through progressions and took off as soon as he saw his first option was covered. That's not true. It's a common narrative but it's not how he played. It's true he didn't take chances but he moved around behind the LOS quite a bit looking to make throws downfield. He was far too risk averse but he was not quick to leave the pocket. He had several designed runs per game. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoMAn Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 1 hour ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: I never ever understood the hate for Tyrod Taylor. He was a dynamic athlete that defenses had to properly game plan against and played a big role in breaking the 17 year drought. I think he is one of the better dual threats of all time and it’s cool seeing the contrast between TT and Allen as runners. Why is he not a bigger part of Bills’ lore? He got done what a **** load of previous QBs couldn’t. It’s not like Losman, Bledsoe, or Fitz didn’t have good defenses too. So I really don’t wanna hear how the defense alone propelled us there. It was also Tyrod’s legs and low turnover rate + big play ability as well. He was just average as a starting QB. His NFL career path as a backup and journeyman should be argument enough. He’s never been a top tier QB. Maybe not even in the top 4 tiers. He was a retread from another team, so he didn’t even have the love from Bills mafia afforded a draft hopeful with high expectations. A truly decent hard working guy and good teammate by all accounts, but he appeared a bit reserved, or even shy, so that may have prevented him from getting embraced by the Bills’ fan base in the same manner as the personable Ryan Fitzpatrick, who made no secret of his enduring affinity for WNY and the fans. That’s why he’s not more revered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 9 minutes ago, loyal2dagame said: Chick's dig the long ball. Tyrod didn't have one. He was a serviceable QB. Nothing more, nothing less. Omg. This thread... He had one of the best deep balls in the league. He was limited in lots of areas but that's the one part of his passing game that was excellent. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted June 29, 2023 Author Share Posted June 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Rigotz said: Nobody hates him. He was welcomed to the Bills and everyone was excited about his success. It was also obvious he wasn't a Franchise QB. He played for 9 years outside of Buffalo and never threw for 1,000 yards in a season for any other team. Buffalo, however, loved him and made the most of his talents. He was fun to watch, but never good enough to be like the guy we currently have ... which is what you're always looking for. I'm glad we didn't settle with Tyrod for another 10 years instead of shooting to be a perennial top 5 offense like we are now. Yes. Same with Doug Flutie. Yet, Flutie is was more revered among Bills fans 43 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: No. Allen has 76 starts in 5 years Vick has 115 starts in 13 years Cam has 144 starts in 11 years Tryhard has 53 starts in 12 years. Not exactly apples to apples comparison. The body of work just isn't there. Yea, but I would consider Josh Allen an all time dual threat QB if he retired tomorrow and he only has 76 starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Many here have commented about his mixed, average career in Buffalo. Just look at his 4 teams in 5 years since leaving Buffalo... there's a definite MEH track record there. He's just meh. That's why Bill fans don't revere him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yobogoya! Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 I’m not sure how much you can revere a guy who was benched at separate times for Cardale Jones and Nathan Peterman. I mean that’s a pretty dubious indictment of his abilities lol That being said Tyrod was a good guy and had some real highlight moments. Being part of the team that broke the drought means I’d be shocked if he ever has to buy his own drinks when there’s a Bills fan around 🍺 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 He wouldn’t throw the ball. He was gun shy. It was mind boggling how Tyrod held on to the ball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted June 29, 2023 Author Share Posted June 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Gugny said: The only person who welcomed him, loved him, or was the least bit excited about him was Rex Ryan. Tyrod Taylor’s greatest accomplishment was somehow garnering a 3rd round pick from the idiot Browns. Pure trash. “Pure trash.” Proves the point of my thread and the hate he receives for no reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted June 29, 2023 Author Share Posted June 29, 2023 10 minutes ago, boater said: Many here have commented about his mixed, average career in Buffalo. Just look at his 4 teams in 5 years since leaving Buffalo... there's a definite MEH track record there. He's just meh. That's why Bill fans don't revere him. Let’s be fair. Injuries have plagued him after Buffalo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Omg. This thread... He had one of the best deep balls in the league. He was limited in lots of areas but that's the one part of his passing game that was excellent. And he was on the money every time he threw it. Twice a season. Edited June 30, 2023 by The Wiz 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 I'm mostly upset he never mentioned we were mispronouncing his name for 3 years 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 2 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: I never ever understood the hate for Tyrod Taylor. He was a dynamic athlete that defenses had to properly game plan against and played a big role in breaking the 17 year drought. I think he is one of the better dual threats of all time and it’s cool seeing the contrast between TT and Allen as runners. Why is he not a bigger part of Bills’ lore? He got done what a **** load of previous QBs couldn’t. It’s not like Losman, Bledsoe, or Fitz didn’t have good defenses too. So I really don’t wanna hear how the defense alone propelled us there. It was also Tyrod’s legs and low turnover rate + big play ability as well. Because he was no where good enough to be “revered.” He was servicable. He did some things well. Other things, not so much. I mean, why isn’t Chris Kelsay revered? What are we even asking here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: I'm mostly upset he never mentioned we were mispronouncing his name for 3 years Yeah, but I thought the Doc sticking a needle in his lung was a bit much in terms of punishment. We all know he could be frustrating, but as I recall he bet on himself to come to the Bills, taking less money for a shot at starting. I tend to like guys who bet on themselves and then let their play speak for itself. The guy made about $70 Million, so I can’t feel too bad for him. 7 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: Because he was no where good enough to be “revered.” He was servicable. He did some things well. Other things, not so much. I mean, why isn’t Chris Kelsay revered? What are we even asking here? You clearly have not seen my Chris Kelsey shrine. 🤷♂️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 17 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Let’s be fair. Injuries have plagued him after Buffalo. I would say its his play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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