Why is Tyrod Taylor not more revered in the Bills fan base?

[TheyCallMeAndy]

4 minutes ago, Gugny said:

More respected than Fitzpatrick in what way, exactly?

 

If anyone played above his talent level, it was Fitz. 
 

Taylor sucked at everything except … well, nothing.  He sucked at everything. 
 

Fitz was a mediocre QB, and a stellar man on and off the field. 
 

Taylor doesn’t even belong in the same sentence as Fitz. 

 

None of that is true. 
 

Fitzy actually played 10 more games for the Bills, Tyrod won more games than he did. 
 

Tyrods completion percentage is higher.

 

Their TD percentage is about the same.

 

Fitz had a little over 1700 attempts to Tyrods 1200. 
 

Believe it or not, Tyrod had a higher yards per attempt (7.2) than Fitz (6.7). That means they both checked down plenty. 
 

Obviously Fitz had more TDs (80) and INT (64) than Tyrod did (51 and 16).

 

Both are backups, but let’s not pretend one is all world better than the other. 

[CoudyBills]

3 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

None of that is true. 
 

Fitzy actually played 10 more games for the Bills, Tyrod won more games than he did. 
 

Tyrods completion percentage is higher.

 

Their TD percentage is about the same.

 

Fitz had a little over 1700 attempts to Tyrods 1200. 
 

Believe it or not, Tyrod had a higher yards per attempt (7.2) than Fitz (6.7). That means they both checked down plenty. 
 

Obviously Fitz had more TDs (80) and INT (64) than Tyrod did (51 and 16).

 

Both are backups, but let’s not pretend one is all world better than the other. 

1 let it all hang out, 1 was more timid than my dog that pisses whenever anyone looks at him. 

[TheyCallMeAndy]

I think the best way to sum up Fitz vs Tyrod is this: Fitzy could win you a game, but also single handedly cost you a game. Tyrod didn’t win it, but he also wouldn’t lose it with last minute INTs. 

 

But again, two backup level guys who played on some mediocre at best teams. 
 

Their locker room and off the field legacies are much more significant than their on field accomplishments 

[Gugny]

6 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

None of that is true. 
 

Fitzy actually played 10 more games for the Bills, Tyrod won more games than he did. 
 

Tyrods completion percentage is higher.

 

Their TD percentage is about the same.

 

Fitz had a little over 1700 attempts to Tyrods 1200. 
 

Believe it or not, Tyrod had a higher yards per attempt (7.2) than Fitz (6.7). That means they both checked down plenty. 
 

Obviously Fitz had more TDs (80) and INT (64) than Tyrod did (51 and 16).

 

Both are backups, but let’s not pretend one is all world better than the other. 

I’m not pretending. 
 

Fitz was light years beyond TuhROD on and off the football field. 

[TheyCallMeAndy]

Just now, Gugny said:

I’m not pretending. 
 

Fitz was light years beyond TuhROD on and off the football field. 

You’re entitled to that opinion. I think we can both agree that neither dude should’ve got as many starts for this team as they did. 

[Gugny]

Just now, TheyCallMeAndy said:

You’re entitled to that opinion. I think we can both agree that neither dude should’ve got as many starts for this team as they did. 

Yes, we can agree on that. 

[JoPoy88]

1 hour ago, Gugny said:

This is one of my favorites. 
 

That moron said his name was pronounced TuhROD. 

 

Then people posted videos of his family the night he was drafted, clearly calling him TYrod. 
 

Just another legend in his own feeble mind. 

The name stuff was just weird. Guess he was attempting to reinvent himself, starting with how he says his name.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

There is actually pretty lengthy highlight videos on YouTube of both guys, if anyone needed a reminder at how insanely good and unworldly talented Josh Allen is.

[machine gun kelly]

20 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

I think the best way to sum up Fitz vs Tyrod is this: Fitzy could win you a game, but also single handedly cost you a game. Tyrod didn’t win it, but he also wouldn’t lose it with last minute INTs. 

 

But again, two backup level guys who played on some mediocre at best teams. 
 

Their locker room and off the field legacies are much more significant than their on field accomplishments 

Probably the best description of the issue.

 

well said my friend.

[QB Bills]

The fact that Ryan Fitzpatrick is revered here and Tyrod Taylor isn't should answer this question for you. Not very complicated.

[MJS]

Well, he had an OK run, but I think he is not well liked because of how it progressed and ended with him. He went from being a dual threat with a really pretty deep ball who could win you games, all while taking care of the ball, to a complete coward who would not throw the ball to open receivers or take any risk even when the game was on the line. And he didn't even run that much either, by the end.

 

By the end he was just too hard to watch. And that's why McDermott benched him, because Tyrod was too conservative and the rest of the team could not overcome his risk-aversion to win games.

 

But in totality, he is one of the better QB's in Bills history, mainly because there aren't that many good QB's in Bills history.

 

It is easier to watch a gunslinger who turns it over too much but at least tries like Fitz did, than it is to watch someone who will never pull the trigger, even if they don't turn it over much.

 

Also with Fitz, a big reason fans like him is because of his personality and the fact that he really loves Buffalo and continues to speak highly of it even years later.

11 minutes ago, QB Bills said:

The fact that Ryan Fitzpatrick is revered here and Tyrod Taylor isn't should answer this question for you. Not very complicated.

He's asking why. So, why is that, in your opinion?

[Mikie2times]

2 hours ago, Capco said:

I'm surprised no one cracked a shot at this post from page 1.

I'm convinced I could drop a high 70 in Romans system. So QB friendly.

 

If you combine running+deep ball+check down+limit turnovers it's going to get you some wins. Certainly at replacement level or higher. That formula won't work as the competition increases. But it will put you on the brink of the playoffs if you can play some defense. As a hypothetical, I think New England would take that vs Mac Jones. 

[Freak-O]

Tyrod was an okay QB but his ceiling wasn’t high enough for people to be excited. No one hated him but it’s difficult to be enthusiastic about basic competence. Fitz on the other hand was much more uneven, could beat any team or lose to a bag of chips, and was a real character. 

[QB Bills]

Lots of "fitz could win you a game", "fitz could beat anyone"

 

Can we have some examples?

 

Freddie won the Pats game, before anyone chimes in.

 

Can the Fitzpatrick fans just be honest about why they love him more than Tyrod? Don't be ashamed.

[Mike in Horseheads]

1 hour ago, QB Bills said:

The fact that Ryan Fitzpatrick is revered here and Tyrod Taylor isn't should answer this question for you. Not very complicated.

why don't you answer it for everyone if its not complicated.

[billsfan89]

I have a lot of love for Tyrod, more love for Tyrod than Fitz (love Fitz's personality but the team won nothing with him, Tyrod's worst starting season from 2015-2017 is still a win better than Fitz's best season). Tyrod was not the answer at QB long term, but he brought the Bills back to a sense of respectability with competent QB play. Tyrod was never a top 16 QB but he made plays with his legs and didn't turn the ball over both of which led to the team winning games behind a strong running game and in 2017 an overachieving solid defense. 

 

Tyrod helped the Bills turnaround as an organization. The Bills in the Rex era were not good but they won more in those two seasons than they had in any two year stretch in a long time sadly, then Tyrod helps usher in McD's era. Tyrod helping McD make the playoffs and establishing his culture before getting trading for a fairly high draft pick. 

 

The hate some have for Tyrod is just crazy.

[Nelius]

1 hour ago, QB Bills said:

The fact that Ryan Fitzpatrick is revered here and Tyrod Taylor isn't should answer this question for you. Not very complicated.

 

Really dude? Had to edit my response to this, but c'mon...

 

Tyrod just played a boring game, plain and simple. Yes he ran a lot but his passing game was never very good. That plus max frustration with the drought (the pathetic Jacksonville berth at the end of this tenure did nothing for anybody) led to him just never really giving fans much hope. He barely eclipsed 3k passing in a season, I think everybody knew he wasn't the answer. And this came after Fitz, so he was also just simply at the disadvantage of time.

 

Fitz is also revered here because he still embraces the community. Tyrod kind of just left. Tyrod was very much all business in general. That's not a fault and is probably why he's still in the league, but it's tough to embrace that guy when he never really won you anything. See also Aaron Schobel, since QB Bills wants to play this game.

Edited June 30, 2023 by Nelius

[Doc Brown]

Reserved personality, not aggressive enough, and tied to the Rex Ryan regime.

[GoBills808]

1 hour ago, QB Bills said:

The fact that Ryan Fitzpatrick is revered here and Tyrod Taylor isn't should answer this question for you. Not very complicated.

Let me know the next time Tyrod is in the stands watching Bills playoff football 

[Buffalo Super Fan]

Because Tyrod Taylor wasn’t here very long with the Buffalo Bills. Let’s not act like Tyrod Taylor was like Joe Ferguson who was here for over a decade and is all but forgotten about by a lot of today’s Buffalo Bills fans over shadowed by Jim Kelly era. Which I understand why that is but just saying Tyrod Taylor forget about him. I don’t understand why Joe Ferguson is basically ignored by this Buffalo Bills fans and the Bills franchise today. Is it really that hard to just retire Joe Ferguson number 12 it’s not like the Buffalo Bills are using the number anyway because it’s retired for Jim Kelly. Same Tom Barrasso’s number 30 not like the Buffalo Sabres are using it anyway Ryan Miller.
 

The Buffalo Sabres Rene Robert is more revered than Buffalo Bills Joe Ferguson. I was a fan of both but Rene Robert has his number retired really didn’t do all that much more than Joe Ferguson in professional sports in Buffalo. I think Joe Ferguson was overshadowed by the Electric Company with OJ. Then in the early 1980’s Joe Ferguson was in his prime that main problem was Ralph Wilson’s cheap ness not paying coaches and players to stay together. Joe Ferguson was always getting use to new coaches and players because Ralph Wilson didn’t want to pay to keep the team together until the 1990’s. When Ralph Wilson was older and I think realized I can’t take the money with me so Ralph Wilson had a change of heart and started spending more money on retaining his talent. But we wasted those early 1980’s teams. If Chuck Knox was kept there is no way the Bills are 2-14 in 1984 and 1985 in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo 

Edited June 30, 2023 by I am leaving for good