Joe Ferguson Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 Teams that party the night before the big dance do not deserve to win Super Bowls. 2 1 Quote
Richard Noggin Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 Skipped ahead from bottom of page 1 to last page...I'm hoping more posters have since explained that while the experience of living through 4 consecutive SB runs (I was in grades 7-10) was amazing, the end result was trauma and fatigue, especially when the historically relevant, but ultimately futile, era was eventually terminally punctuated by Trace Armstrong in the 1998-99 wildcard game, and finished off by Frank Wycheck and Kevin Dyson in the wildcard round the following season. A legacy of devastating collapse. After Rob Johnson successfully led them down the field to kick the go-ahead FG, and my best friend at college (not much of a football fan) asked me "That's it, right? They did it?" I said, "Nothing's over, yet" like some kind of cynical Rocky Balboa. I partially expected the improbable, unprecedented kickoff coverage collapse. The Bills had broken my heart before any girls really got to it back in 7th grade. They'd continued to build me up and let me down throughout my teenage years (like exactly years 10-20). I don't understand how peers of similar age walked away without incredible damage. 1 Quote
Nextmanup Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: Skipped ahead from bottom of page 1 to last page...I'm hoping more posters have since explained that while the experience of living through 4 consecutive SB runs (I was in grades 7-10) was amazing, the end result was trauma and fatigue, especially when the historically relevant, but ultimately futile, era was eventually terminally punctuated by Trace Armstrong in the 1998-99 wildcard game, and finished off by Frank Wycheck and Kevin Dyson in the wildcard round the following season. A legacy of devastating collapse. After Rob Johnson successfully led them down the field to kick the go-ahead FG, and my best friend at college (not much of a football fan) asked me "That's it, right? They did it?" I said, "Nothing's over, yet" like some kind of cynical Rocky Balboa. I partially expected the improbable, unprecedented kickoff coverage collapse. The Bills had broken my heart before any girls really got to it back in 7th grade. They'd continued to build me up and let me down throughout my teenage years (like exactly years 10-20). I don't understand how peers of similar age walked away without incredible damage. I was in my undergrad years during the SB run....so I'm a bit ahead of you, and my reaction was about the same back then. "Devastation" is a good word to use. Edited July 1, 2023 by Nextmanup 1 Quote
eball Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 On 6/30/2023 at 6:21 AM, Charles Romes said: What seems to be lost in history, which no younger people understand, is how dominant the NFC was in that era. 13 straight super bowls. Winning the AFC conference at that time was like winning the AAC, then having to knock off the SEC champion. The Bills accomplishment has grown in stature in the minds of sports historians because the NFC dominance factor has been lost in history. On 6/30/2023 at 6:39 AM, eball said: The Bills’ record against the NFC in games that mattered during that 4-year run was stellar. Just for kicks I went back and checked. From 90-93 the Bills were 14-2 against the NFC, with the two losses coming in meaningless last games of the season in 90 and 91 in which the Bills sat their starters. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 7 hours ago, Joe Ferguson said: Teams that party the night before the big dance do not deserve to win Super Bowls. Quote
jethro_tull Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 Mixed. That team was lots of fun but also heartbreaking. 1 Quote
Beck Water Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 You need a third option: ”'Cause it's a bittersweet symphony, that's life ” 1 Quote
Eastport bills Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 Just a question for fans that feel shame about 4 straight SB losses, how many teams in NFL history have made it to 3 straight SBs? The answer is one other than us. Those Bills were all time great teams that were clutch, resilient and really talented. The first SB should have been a W but fate had other ideas. The other 3 were remarkable in that we overcame major obstacles to just get there and met more talented teams in the big game. I’m proud of those teams and that feat in the age of FA will never be accomplished. Quote
nucci Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 48 minutes ago, Eastport bills said: Just a question for fans that feel shame about 4 straight SB losses, how many teams in NFL history have made it to 3 straight SBs? The answer is one other than us. Those Bills were all time great teams that were clutch, resilient and really talented. The first SB should have been a W but fate had other ideas. The other 3 were remarkable in that we overcame major obstacles to just get there and met more talented teams in the big game. I’m proud of those teams and that feat in the age of FA will never be accomplished. The question is , do you consider 4 straight Superbowls losses to be bad. It's a simple yes or no. Nothing to do with getting there, nothing against how great those teams were, just a simple question. No one is downplaying how great a time and how exciting it was. Quote
Dopey Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 7 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: Skipped ahead from bottom of page 1 to last page...I'm hoping more posters have since explained that while the experience of living through 4 consecutive SB runs (I was in grades 7-10) was amazing, the end result was trauma and fatigue, especially when the historically relevant, but ultimately futile, era was eventually terminally punctuated by Trace Armstrong in the 1998-99 wildcard game, and finished off by Frank Wycheck and Kevin Dyson in the wildcard round the following season. A legacy of devastating collapse. After Rob Johnson successfully led them down the field to kick the go-ahead FG, and my best friend at college (not much of a football fan) asked me "That's it, right? They did it?" I said, "Nothing's over, yet" like some kind of cynical Rocky Balboa. I partially expected the improbable, unprecedented kickoff coverage collapse. The Bills had broken my heart before any girls really got to it back in 7th grade. They'd continued to build me up and let me down throughout my teenage years (like exactly years 10-20). I don't understand how peers of similar age walked away without incredible damage. I’m 56 years old and witnessed the 4 losses. Hopefully this doesn’t come off as rude, but the Bills didn’t build you up. You did that. I understand as a young kid, but we should all grow up and mature as we age. That means realizing you have no control over what they do. It feels good to watch winning football, knowing we have a top team that has as good of a chance as any team to win the SB. After 2 decades of crap, this is fun. For those who claim I have a “loser’s “ mentality, save it. I’m not playing and have no control over the outcome. It’s not me who wins or loses. 1 Quote
MJS Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 Going to four straight was amazing. Losing all of them was not amazing. Yes and yes. 8 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: Skipped ahead from bottom of page 1 to last page...I'm hoping more posters have since explained that while the experience of living through 4 consecutive SB runs (I was in grades 7-10) was amazing, the end result was trauma and fatigue, especially when the historically relevant, but ultimately futile, era was eventually terminally punctuated by Trace Armstrong in the 1998-99 wildcard game, and finished off by Frank Wycheck and Kevin Dyson in the wildcard round the following season. A legacy of devastating collapse. After Rob Johnson successfully led them down the field to kick the go-ahead FG, and my best friend at college (not much of a football fan) asked me "That's it, right? They did it?" I said, "Nothing's over, yet" like some kind of cynical Rocky Balboa. I partially expected the improbable, unprecedented kickoff coverage collapse. The Bills had broken my heart before any girls really got to it back in 7th grade. They'd continued to build me up and let me down throughout my teenage years (like exactly years 10-20). I don't understand how peers of similar age walked away without incredible damage. If football is giving you trauma, I think you need greater perspective in your life. It is possible to care too much about sports. 1 Quote
Nextmanup Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 10 hours ago, Joe Ferguson said: Teams that party the night before the big dance do not deserve to win Super Bowls. Do you think they were dumb enough to do that for the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th SBs? Or do you think they learned their lesson in 1991 down in Tampa? If they were doing that crap in later games, screw them! And you know, I seem to recall stories/rumors of some of them (Kelly) being out on the town in Minneapolis the night before the Redskins tore us a new one. So yeah, maybe there were that stupid. 1 Quote
CincyBillsFan Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 Yes & No. Sure on Super Bowl Sunday it sucked when the last second ticked off the clock and the Bills had again lost the Super Bowl. But from early September to the end of January those 4 years were magical. Winning a lot of games, winning the Division, winning EVERY playoff game in every manner from historic blowouts to the greatest playoff come back in history, and winning 4 straight AFC championships. And even after that last SB loss it seemed to me like no one would ever match what the Bills accomplished. And over time this has been proven to be true. Fifty years from now they'll still be waiting to see a team match the Bills and go to FOUR straight Super Bowl games. Quote
Eastport bills Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 1 hour ago, nucci said: The question is , do you consider 4 straight Superbowls losses to be bad. It's a simple yes or no. Nothing to do with getting there, nothing against how great those teams were, just a simple question. No one is downplaying how great a time and how exciting it was. No Nucci, because of what I said in the post. The question is infantile without an explanation. What is it a poll question? Quote
muppy Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 what I remember most about the super bowl losses were the emotional and a couple times liquor induced Hangovers from dashed hopes. Those totally sucked so I voted Bad Quote
muppy Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 no matter what we all voted in this poll we all still are here total diehard Bills fans. The fellowship is priceless and that is not only not bad it is BADASS 4 AFC Championships in a row is GOOD. It is easier to look at it the other way for a lot of people I get it. but the non fans can shut their traps as far as Im concerned. Those teams were damn good. Quote
90sBills Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 On 6/29/2023 at 10:51 AM, Limeaid said: Some would never want to be a bat unless they get home AND THEN they would complain and say opposition was weak. I hear ya there haha. For this analogy let’s pretend this is a virgin man (Bills no superbowls). Not getting home still makes this hypothetical man a virgin no matter how many times he got to third base. Getting to the Super Bowl is third base in this analogy to be clear. 1 1 Quote
Saxum Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 12 minutes ago, 90sBills said: I hear ya there haha. For this analogy let’s pretend this is a virgin man (Bills no superbowls). Not getting home still makes this hypothetical man a virgin no matter how many times he got to third base. Getting to the Super Bowl is third base in this analogy to be clear. The Zebras are her parents catching in back seat of your car. 1 Quote
90sBills Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, Limeaid said: The Zebras are her parents catching in back seat of your car. Your triggering my ptsd. 😂 Quote
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