"Moms” for Liberty - a white supremacist ANTI LGTBQ extremist/hate group

[B-Man]

 

Too long a read for our PPP children, but I encourage you to read it.

 

 

 

You know the answer.

 

 

Who’s Afraid of Moms for Liberty?

A growing cadre of angry mothers is taking over school boards and winning influence as GOP kingmakers. Why are they being called a ‘hate group’?

By Robert Pondiscio   July 13, 2023

 

In a breakout session in a windowless conference room at last weekend’s Moms for Liberty “Joyful Warrior Summit” in Philadelphia, Christian Ziegler, the chairman of the Florida Republican Party and father of three school-aged daughters, is stiffening spines. Dozens of attendees, mostly women, are nodding and taking notes as Ziegler explains how to work with local news media. 

 

“Your product is parental rights. Your product is protecting children and eliminating indoctrination and the sexualization of children. You’re the grassroots. You’re on the ground. You’re the moms, the grandparents, the families that are impacted. The stories you tell help set a narrative,” Ziegler coaches them.

 

One story above us, the ballroom floor of the downtown Marriott is groaning under the weight of crowded press risers, where camera crews have set up for the parade of Republican presidential hopefuls coming here to curry favor with the more than 600 Moms for Liberty members attending—and a few thousand more watching the livestream. 

 

Ron DeSantis held forth this morning. Nikki Haley is scheduled to speak at lunch. Donald Trump will close things out later this afternoon. Entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy and former Arkansas governor Asa Hutchinson are on tap for tomorrow. 

 

It’s an astonishing display of political drawing power, considering Moms for Liberty didn’t even exist three years ago. The candidates have all come to pay obeisance to the animating idea that has galvanized these women: that parents—not the government—should be in charge of how their children are raised and educated. 

 

If you want to understand why these politicians have come, you need to go to the breakout sessions, away from the camera’s gaze, where, hour after hour, Moms for Liberty chapter leaders and foot soldiers learn how to run for school boards—and if they win, how to advance their agenda even when in the minority. There are talks on messaging strategies and mining school board minutes for signs of “woke indoctrination.” There are workshops on how to file public records requests and navigate the legal system. 

 

They aren’t messing around. More than half of the 500 candidates Moms for Liberty endorsed for local school board elections last year won their races. “School choice moms” provided the margin of victory in DeSantis’ first run for Florida governor in 2018. Democrat Terry McAuliffe was leading the race for Virginia governor in 2021 before his debate remark that “I don’t think parents should be telling schools what they should teach” handed the win to Republican Glenn Youngkin. 

Moms for Liberty is the beating heart of this country’s movement of angry parents—and American education has never seen anything quite like it. 

 

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It’s true the group attracts and frequently abides a lunatic fringe, fueling its critics’ counternarrative that the movement is intolerant, racist even. 

 

Just last week, an Indiana Moms for Liberty chapter put a Hitler quote in its newsletter and the story went national. The quote—“He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future”—was intended to warn parents what happens when a regime targets its children for indoctrination. But when critics are calling you ultra-right wing Christofascists, it’s probably unwise to invoke Hitler in any context. 

 

The local chapter chair apologized, “probably because she hasn’t gone through this” training, Ziegler tells the crowd.   “Frankly, it was bull####.” 

 

Even before the Hitler controversy, media coverage of the group has been harsh. The Nation described Moms for Liberty as “hateful fascist bigots.” The New Republic said the group has “created nightmares for schools across the country.” An article in Vice reported they have ties to the Proud Boys—a claim that co-founder Tiffany Justice strenuously denied to me. A story in The Washington Post led with the Southern Poverty Law Center’s recent designation of Moms for Liberty as an “extremist group” devoted to spreading “messages of anti-inclusion and hate.”

 

MUCH more at the link: https://www.thefp.com/p/whos-afraid-of-moms-for-liberty?utm_source=substack&publication_id=260347&post_id=134634681&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&triggerShare=true&isFreemail=false

 

 

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[BillStime]

Who's afraid of the Moms of Hitler? lolz

 

No one is surprised that Bonnie whitewashes EVERYTHING associated with the wrong side of history.

 

 

 

 

[TSOL]

1 minute ago, BillStime said:

Who's afraid of the Moms of Hitler? lolz

 

No one is surprised that Bonnie whitewashes EVERYTHING associated with the wrong side of history.

 

 

 

 

Yeah? You're gonna cancel them once your Marxist utopia really takes hold? 

 

You soulless genderless bastard! 🤣

[BillStime]

37 minutes ago, TSOL said:

Yeah? You're gonna cancel them once your Marxist utopia really takes hold? 

 

You soulless genderless bastard! 🤣

Awe, LYSOL is upset because I don’t sugarcoat the Nazis he supports. 
 

You would have fit in just fine in 1930 Germany.

 

 

[BillStime]

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

On 7/11/2023 at 6:08 AM, redtail hawk said:

equating progressives with communists is just dumb.  Comparing MAGA's to nazis is not.

You're deluding yourself.  The regressives are the Nazi's.  They're the people demonstrating authoritarian tendencies while using the power of government and media to attack their enemies.   

[Tommy Callahan]

On 7/11/2023 at 6:08 AM, redtail hawk said:

equating progressives with communists is just dumb.  Comparing MAGA's to nazis is not.

Goodwins law in play. AGAIN.

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

1 hour ago, Chris farley said:

Goodwins law in play. AGAIN.

 

 

Well, I learned something today.  This is pretty deep:

Godwin's law itself can be applied mistakenly or abused as a distraction, diversion or even as censorship, when fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as hyperbole when the comparison made by the argument is appropriate.[11] Godwin himself has also criticized the overapplication of the law, claiming that it does not articulate a fallacy, but rather is intended to reduce the frequency of inappropriate and hyperbolic comparisons. Godwin wrote that "Although deliberately framed as if it were a law of nature or of mathematics, its purpose has always been rhetorical and pedagogical: I wanted folks who glibly compared someone else to Hitler to think a bit harder about the Holocaust."[12]

In December 2015, Godwin commented on comparisons to Nazism and fascism being made by several articles between Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, saying: "If you're thoughtful about it and show some real awareness of history, go ahead and refer to Hitler when you talk about Trump, or any other politician."[13] In August 2017, Godwin made similar remarks on social media with respect to the two previous days' Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, endorsing and encouraging comparisons of its alt-right organizers to Nazis.[14][15]

In June 2018, Godwin wrote an opinion piece in the Los Angeles Times denying the need to update or amend the rule. He rejected the idea that whoever invokes Godwin's law has lost the argument, and argued that, applied appropriately, the rule "should function less as a conversation ender and more as a conversation starter."[16]

[Tommy Callahan]

1 hour ago, redtail hawk said:

Well, I learned something today.  This is pretty deep:

Godwin's law itself can be applied mistakenly or abused as a distraction, diversion or even as censorship, when fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as hyperbole when the comparison made by the argument is appropriate.[11] Godwin himself has also criticized the overapplication of the law, claiming that it does not articulate a fallacy, but rather is intended to reduce the frequency of inappropriate and hyperbolic comparisons. Godwin wrote that "Although deliberately framed as if it were a law of nature or of mathematics, its purpose has always been rhetorical and pedagogical: I wanted folks who glibly compared someone else to Hitler to think a bit harder about the Holocaust."[12]

In December 2015, Godwin commented on comparisons to Nazism and fascism being made by several articles between Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, saying: "If you're thoughtful about it and show some real awareness of history, go ahead and refer to Hitler when you talk about Trump, or any other politician."[13] In August 2017, Godwin made similar remarks on social media with respect to the two previous days' Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, endorsing and encouraging comparisons of its alt-right organizers to Nazis.[14][15]

In June 2018, Godwin wrote an opinion piece in the Los Angeles Times denying the need to update or amend the rule. He rejected the idea that whoever invokes Godwin's law has lost the argument, and argued that, applied appropriately, the rule "should function less as a conversation ender and more as a conversation starter."[16]

LOL, It can be.

 

but it wasn't in that context.

 

 

[BillStime]

 

[T master]

On 6/26/2023 at 5:40 PM, BillStime said:

Moms for Liberty is a well-documented hate group funded by far-right sugar daddies and MAGA nutters. 

 

These degenerates unite the right with FINE PEOPLE like the Proud Boys, Three Percenters, Christian nationalists, and the AK-47-worshiping Rod of Iron Ministries church in Pennsylvania.

 

When you're quoting Hitler more than once - you cannot defend these NAZIS.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This has meaning in that if you think of this as ow it is being applied to the over all picture that is trying to be painted as they are with his song thing . The narrative needs to move forward !

 

But those ass hats that quote Hitler & don't have the respect to shut the F up to honor those lost in the holocaust need to be smacked up side the head but that would be way to harsh for todays sensitive culture in the US .

[BillStime]

These biches don't care about kids...

 

 

[Wacka]

So mothers who care for and want tp protect their children are b*tches ,Slime???

[Kemp]

16 hours ago, Wacka said:

So mothers who care for and want tp protect their children are b*tches ,Slime???

 

Depends upon your point of view, I suppose.

When a group quotes and cheers Hitler, I don't look upon them favorably.

You are free to be a fan of that and them.

[wnyguy]

44 minutes ago, Kemp said:

 

Depends upon your point of view, I suppose.

When a group quotes and cheers Hitler, I don't look upon them favorably.

You are free to be a fan of that and them.

You, sir, are ridiculous.

[Kemp]

22 minutes ago, wnyguy said:

You, sir, are ridiculous.

 

I'm just telling you what happened in reality.

Are you saying it didn't happen or it's fine with you that it did happen?'

[wnyguy]

5 minutes ago, Kemp said:

 

I'm just telling you what happened in reality.

Are you saying it didn't happen or it's fine with you that it did happen?'

Oh the Hitler quote was used, certainly, but used to point out how the establishment is attempting to control and influence our children to fit their agenda. So basically saying that the powers that be are using Hitler and Nazi tactics on our children. You get that, right?

The Moms for Liberty are not aligning with Hitler nor the Nazi party.

[All_Pro_Bills]

7 minutes ago, wnyguy said:

Oh the Hitler quote was used, certainly, but used to point out how the establishment is attempting to control and influence our children to fit their agenda. So basically saying that the powers that be are using Hitler and Nazi tactics on our children. You get that, right?

The Moms for Liberty are not aligning with Hitler nor the Nazi party.

Either people take the opportunity to paint somebody as evil (rather than attempt to tackle and counter the basis of their argument) or they have difficulty in understanding the difference between the message and the messenger.  The context here is an evil person saying you can easily manipulate the population through various propaganda strategies.  Even though the speaker is a scumbag the conclusion is valid.  And acknowledging the validity of the "quote" isn't equivalent to praising or approving of the speaker. 

 

But bundling them together is a convenient way to attack somebody you disagree with without presenting any counter argument or support for your views.  Its a cowards and lazy strategy for debating.       

[Kemp]

17 minutes ago, wnyguy said:

Oh the Hitler quote was used, certainly, but used to point out how the establishment is attempting to control and influence our children to fit their agenda. So basically saying that the powers that be are using Hitler and Nazi tactics on our children. You get that, right?

The Moms for Liberty are not aligning with Hitler nor the Nazi party.

 

Did you miss the part where the crowd cheered the use of the Hitler quote?

Check out the first part of the following video.
 

 

[B-Man]

2 hours ago, Kemp said:

 

Depends upon your point of view, I suppose.

When a group quotes and cheers Hitler, I don't look upon them favorably.

You are free to be a fan of that and them.

 

 

You shouldn't need to lie to try and make a point.

 

It proves the weakness of your attack.

 

 

 

24 minutes ago, Kemp said:

 

Did you miss the part where the crowd cheered the use of the Hitler quote?
 

 

 

They "cheered" the point that it was trying to make about government intrusion, NOT that it was from Hitler.

 

They didn't even know that.

 

What a weak-ass attempt to prop up your narrative.

 

 

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