McDermott & Beane Extended Through 2027

[Airseven]

3 hours ago, Einstein said:

 

McDermott is the longest tenured coach without a Super Bowl appearance.

Is this true? I assume this is true. Wow.

[The Wiz]

3 minutes ago, Airseven said:

Is this true? I assume this is true. Wow.

Active coach at least.  I would assume it's true also.

 

Not that crazy if you think someone that has been coaching for 6 years though.

 

There are plenty other who have coached for less time that are on that list as well.

 

That doesn't make them bad coaches, just haven't been in the league as long.

[1onemangang7]

39 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said:

But ya missed the plot changes regarding race and LGBQT in those 10 pages

You guys leave @Big Turkalone he don't know what else to say

[JoPoy88]

2 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

Indeed. The bar has changed but for many the bar is still low or too high. Depends on your perspective. 

So WHO IS? Name this magical man or men that could and can take Allen over the hump and into the promised land. 
 

 

WHO?

 

Who’s available or can be pried away? Who’s an offensive genius who’s just languishing coaching college ball? 
 Which “better coach” would take the job over their current deal with whatever team they’ve with?

 

Love how there’s never any concrete suggestions of actual people that would be better than McDermott that would realistically take the job.

 

”they’re out there” is all we get from these simps.

[JoPoy88]

55 minutes ago, 1onemangang7 said:

the problem is how many years do they have?  Personally i think it couldve be done by now.  And when it's done, then i think it'd all be gravy.  Guess you'd have to ask New England fans. One in these colors with that emblem, and i could deal with the human insatiable part. 

they have as many years as Allen is good, so yeah he’s going to be good for a bit longer.

 

”Personally, I think it could’ve been done by now”…

 

Personally, what you think, or attempt to think, means less than nothing. 

Personally, YOU are not a professional football player, assistant, coach, GM or owner. Personally, you’re opinion about the expectations of the Buffalo Bills  means less than what I can scrape off my shoe.

19 minutes ago, 1onemangang7 said:

You guys leave @Big Turkalone he don't know what else to say

I really wouldn’t poke that bear man. Just figure it out in DMs. Not a good look.

[newcam2012]

18 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:

So WHO IS? Name this magical man or men that could and can take Allen over the hump and into the promised land. 
 

 

WHO?

 

Who’s available or can be pried away? Who’s an offensive genius who’s just languishing coaching college ball? 
 Which “better coach” would take the job over their current deal with whatever team they’ve with?

 

Love how there’s never any concrete suggestions of actual people that would be better than McDermott that would realistically take the job.

 

”they’re out there” is all we get from these simps.

It's been mentioned numerous times on varies topics here. I'm not about to reiterate them. 

 

It's absurd to think there are or were no reasonable options out there. 

 

There is life beyond McD. 

[HappyDays]

14 hours ago, ngbills said:

Could it be a message from ownership to the players, especially the black players. The GM and coach are my guys, you are a player aka the staff and need to know your place.

 

2 hours ago, Dopey said:

But hey, he’s our great white hope, so he gets a pass and Diggs is the issue. 

 

What is going on in this thread?

[newcam2012]

1 hour ago, Tanoros said:

Who wouldn’t be disappointed? We are Bills fans and we want a Super Bowl. With that being said, I think I would rather have years of a highly competitive team always on the verge vs winning a Superbowl and then falling on our face for years on end again (I know that’s a crazy take, and I also realize those aren’t the only options). I love watching Bills football and I love it even more when we have a chance in every game. I wound definitely trade that superbowl winning moment for years of true satisfaction watching the Bills week in and week out. Even though the Super Bowl is the ultimate goal, I’m a fan of a team that’s never one it yet. I just love being able to root for a team that truly stand toe to toe with the best.  There is no guarantee a new coach makes us better, and being in the chase every year means we have a shot to go on a run any of those years. Look at the Ravens with Harbough as an example. They are very competitive and generally always in the hunt. They and Flaco had a very nice run the season they won the Super Bowl. It’s not out of the question the Bills/Allen could do the same. I mean Allen is 10x the qb of Flaco. 
 

Look at the growing pains with Dorsey in his first year as OC, I think having a new up and coming offensive minded coach (as many seem to want) should come with the expectation that their would be growing pains from the coaching position too. Then, what does our defense look like? Does it regress, does the defense cost us games? What would be the consensus if our offense is truly elite, but our defense is holding the team back? 
 

I’m really excited to see what the defense looks like this year with McDermott calling the plays. I like the idea of having a cutting edge defensive minded coach in this era of offense. However, McDermott needs to show the defense can come to play in the playoffs. However, last year is hard to judge with all of the injuries. It’s supersizing they did (the whole team honestly) as well as they did with as banged up as they were. 

That's fair. Appreciate your post and views. 

 

I disagree with several points but nevertheless I hear where you are coming from. 

[PBF81]

1 hour ago, 1onemangang7 said:

the problem is how many years do they have?  Personally i think it couldve be done by now. 

 

Could have easily been done in 2021.  It essentially was done.  We had it.  

 

Allen was on fire!

 

So why wasn't it?  Because the coach that just got extended made arguably the biggest reprehensible coaching blunder in the modern history of the NFL playoffs.  He undid it.  

 

True story!  

 

 

Edited June 24, 2023 by PBF81

[JoPoy88]

1 minute ago, newcam2012 said:

It's been mentioned numerous times on varies topics here. I'm not about to reiterate them. 

 

It's absurd to think there are or were no reasonable options out there. 

 

There is life beyond McD. 

so these people, these stone cold lock coaches/gms have been “mentioned numerous times” and yet you can’t name me one. Give me your best - just one name then, since I must have missed the virtual geyser of coaching and GM candidates better than McBeane all you lay on your ass on the couch experts have in your little sticky red white & blue binders. Please 🙏 enlighten us

[JoPoy88]

1 hour ago, 1onemangang7 said:

the problem is how many years do they have?  Personally i think it couldve be done by now.  And when it's done, then i think it'd all be gravy.  Guess you'd have to ask New England fans. One in these colors with that emblem, and i could deal with the human insatiable part. 

Actually the problem is you’re working with 2 beers shy of a sixer and there’s no use arguing with someone either this stupid or this deranged.

[GoBills808]

You people need to relax lol

[newcam2012]

1 hour ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

It is fair, yup.

 

But the same - lost opportunities - can be said of any team that makes the playoffs - or comes close - without winning the SB. Andy Reid had a lot more than three years of lost opportunities as an HC till things came together for him. And he's very far from the only one.

 

But yeah, it certainly is a fair statement.

I think for the Bills you have to put it in a proper perspective. 

 

It cuts both ways as far as missed opportunities and future opportunities. 

 

Agree the Bills missed some opportunities. Is it a small sample? Not sure if it is or isn't. The missed opportunities don't sit well in my head. It doesn't exactly elude confidence going forward. It's put up or shut up time sort of speak. 

 

Can the Bills thrive in future years under McD and Beane. Yes and yes. Can they win it all? Absolutely. 

 

I think the biggest failures are Beane and the Bills organization not fully capitalizing on Allen's rookie contract. That was the optimum window to crush it. They squandered it with very poor draft choices and acquisitions. Look at Cinci, KC, and Philly as prime examples of success. Bills clearly don't fit into that category despite have a monster QB. 

 

Fast forward to today and it becomes more difficult to win it all. The cap and money restrictions have had its toll. Beane himself has addressed this issue and eluded to Cinci and Burrow still on his rookie contract in his presser. 

 

It appears the Bills path to the SB is becoming increasingly more difficult. Perhaps, I'm off on my thinking here? There are whispers amoung the football experts that the Bills are going to descend. Take that for what it's worth. 

 

We are about to find out shortly the path of the team. What's clear like it or not is Beane and McD are likely riding the ship for several more years. They still have a lot to prove...

[JoPoy88]

6 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I think for the Bills you have to put it in a proper perspective. 

 

It cuts both ways as far as missed opportunities and future opportunities. 

 

Agree the Bills missed some opportunities. Is it a small sample? Not sure if it is or isn't. The missed opportunities don't sit well in my head. It doesn't exactly elude confidence going forward. It's put up or shut up time sort of speak. 

 

Can the Bills thrive in future years under McD and Beane. Yes and yes. Can they win it all? Absolutely. 

 

I think the biggest failures are Beane and the Bills organization not fully capitalizing on Allen's rookie contract. That was the optimum window to crush it. They squandered it with very poor draft choices and acquisitions. Look at Cinci, KC, and Philly as prime examples of success. Bills clearly don't fit into that category despite have a monster QB. 

 

Fast forward to today and it becomes more difficult to win it all. The cap and money restrictions have had its toll. Beane himself has addressed this issue and eluded to Cinci and Burrow still on his rookie contract in his presser. 

 

It appears the Bills path to the SB is becoming increasingly more difficult. Perhaps, I'm off on my thinking here? There are whispers amoung the football experts that the Bills are going to descend. Take that for what it's worth. 

 

We are about to find out shortly the path of the team. What's clear like it or not is Beane and McD are likely riding the ship for several more years. They still have a lot to prove...

Big jumbo $3 extra word salad. Still haven’t named a name. Or combo GM/head coach names. Go ahead

[newcam2012]

20 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:

so these people, these stone cold lock coaches/gms have been “mentioned numerous times” and yet you can’t name me one. Give me your best - just one name then, since I must have missed the virtual geyser of coaching and GM candidates better than McBeane all you lay on your ass on the couch experts have in your little sticky red white & blue binders. Please 🙏 enlighten us

As mentioned for coaches were Sean Payton, Ben Johnson, and Lou Anarumo. 

 

No one is saying they are or were locks. They were options. 

 

I'm fine with you disagreeing. 

 

Now can you stop with the borderline chastising? 

 

 

[JoPoy88]

21 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

As mentioned for coaches were Sean Payton, Ben Johnson, and Lou Anarumo. 

 

 

 
holy s**t those are the guys huh.

One is absolutely not available. (And won a total of 1 super bowls (against a bad team) with a HOF QB despite being tied to that QB for a decade+)

One is very okay, also hasn’t won anything and has the luxury of Burrow/Chase/Mixon/Higgins

One is another defensive guy, which I thought you people had half the problem with.

 

yep. All clear upgrades.

 

And they were never options.

Edited June 24, 2023 by JoPoy88

[JoPoy88]

5 hours ago, 1onemangang7 said:

that's fine, youre a fan, you'll be happy when they win you just wont know how it came about. 

OOOH so sinister so inside baseball. Tell us all your secrets please you zero. You’re nobody.

[Chandler#81]

12 hours ago, GoBills808 said:

It's not that difficult to establish a winning tradition when you have a quarterback who will literally do anything in his physical power to win football games

NOT THAT DIFFICULT??  Shirley you jest! Until these guys arrived, establishing a winning tradition wasn’t possible since Flutie retired. -Fitz & Bledsoe were even better than lil Dougie. 

[newcam2012]

1 hour ago, JoPoy88 said:

 
holy s**t those are the guys huh.

One is absolutely not available. (And won a total of 1 super bowls (against a bad team) with a HOF QB despite being tied to that QB for a decade+)

One is very okay, also hasn’t won anything and has the luxury of Burrow/Chase/Mixon/Higgins

One is another defensive guy, which I thought you people had half the problem with.

 

yep. All clear upgrades.

 

And they were never options.

I answered your question. 

 

So much wrong with your post. 

 

Clearly, you want to argue, fight, and insult rather than have a civilized debate. 

 

Have a great day. I'm finished responding to you. Not mad or angry. Just don't want to waste my time. 

 

[newcam2012]

2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

NOT THAT DIFFICULT??  Shirley you jest! Until these guys arrived, establishing a winning tradition wasn’t possible since Flutie retired. -Fitz & Bledsoe were even better than lil Dougie. 

Exactly the point he's making. None of those QBs can even compare to Allen. 

 

I think it's fair to say Allen makes a coaches job easier. Allen definelty equates to plenty of regular season wins. 

 

I'm on the record saying any decent coach could probably have taken the Bills to the playoffs the last few years. It says more about Allen than it does about McD. 

 

The risk factor is not great at all. I don't think this is a unrealistic statement. Allen is simply that good where the previous Bills QBs were not. 

 

Do the Bills with Allen win because of McD or despite McD come regular season and playoff time? How much do the Bills win or lose because of Allen or McD? No easy answers there. 

 

What's pretty indefensible is Allen equates to the Bills winning. Can you say the same for McD? Can another coach do more or less? 

 

 

Edited June 24, 2023 by newcam2012