K-9 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: He’ll be gone after 2025 season if they don’t get to SB by then IMO…. Maybe 2024 season depending on how deep they get. This is true. The extension doesn’t preclude Pegula from firing McD at any time. The extension is a show of faith that serves to show Pegula has his back no matter what the media might report otherwise. But if Pegula can up and fire him at any time anyway, then why all the consternation from so many posters? Because he hasn’t fired him already? I’m sorry, but you just don’t fire coaches coming off 13-3 seasons with career .640 winning percentages. 11 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: He’ll be gone after 2025 season if they don’t get to SB by then IMO…. Maybe 2024 season depending on how deep they get Edited June 23, 2023 by K-9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Rotary Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 I like winning more than losing so this works for me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 2 hours ago, eball said: If you are going to say that only a Super Bowl victory defines success That is the simple reality of the NFL. There is only one goal - To win a Super Bowl. Equating a team's success to a string of regular-season victories, even though they consistently falter during the playoffs, is similar to commending a team for perpetually failing to achieve the NFL's singular, paramount objective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 6 hours ago, MWK said: Was obviously going to happen, no matter what people say. Hopefully the heat is on and they'll be gone if we don't win a super bowl in the next 2-3 years. McDermott mostly deserves it. Beane should be thanking Josh because without him, his draft record is terrible. Of course it was obviously going to happen. Would be dumb not to. Josh should be thankful to Beane he picked him before Arizona. Beane drafted him and should get credit He turned a loser of a franchise around. It’s one thing for the lynch mob to be vocal, but at least make some sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 19 minutes ago, DCofNC said: Ralph is Cheap. is this why im not getting my freaking hat? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Einstein said: That is the simple reality of the NFL. There is only one goal - To win a Super Bowl. Equating a team's success to a string of regular-season victories, even though they consistently falter during the playoffs, is similar to commending a team for perpetually failing to achieve the NFL's singular, paramount objective. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 1 minute ago, TBBills Fan said: is this why im not getting my freaking hat? Obviously 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 I'm not convince McDermott can get us that elusive championship. But I'd rather be gnawing at the heels of one, rather than take a chance with a new HC and likely other coaching changes. It could be very risky, depending on the coach. I don't like the possibility that the floor could drop out. And it's not just the coach, it's Allen and the rest of the team. They would have to get comfortable with new plays and a scheme. Whenever I think of this topic, I think of the Steelers with Bill Cowher. He went a long time before finally getting a Super Bowl. I remember a lot of fans wanting his head on a platter. Granted, much of that was during the "Slash" years, but the team stuck it out and he got his QB and a SB. I'm doubtful I'll ever see a Super Bowl. I have some stats that have me thinking this way. But I'm will to stick it out. Just don't like the risky alternative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Happy for the dynamic duo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Fleezoid said: coaching changes. It could be very risky, depending on the coach. I don't like the possibility that the floor could drop out. This is where I fundamentally disagree. I do not agree that there is a large amount of risk in moving on to a different coach. With Josh Allen, we could make the playoffs with Rex Ryan as our coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, Einstein said: That is the simple reality of the NFL. There is only one goal - To win a Super Bowl. Equating a team's success to a string of regular-season victories, even though they consistently falter during the playoffs, is similar to commending a team for perpetually failing to achieve the NFL's singular, paramount objective. Right. Every team sucks except KC and we should just commiserate with the the Texans, Bears, and Cardinals. Got it. A more myopic take on success doesn’t exist. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Einstein said: This is where I fundamentally disagree. I do not agree that there is a large amount of risk in moving on to a different coach. With Josh Allen, we could make the playoffs with Rex Ryan as our coach. Well then the problem would still remain for many posters that they hired a defensive minded coach. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, SCBills said: Again .. your premise that “nobody is forced to celebrate” has been disproved plenty of times on the OT board. Id respect your post much more if you didn’t resort to calling people “homophobic” when you know nothing about them. A growing number of people who have always advocated for gay rights (such as myself) wish people like you would chill out with the name calling and bizarre aggression to those who pushback against a movement that is more about BlackRock and Vanguard than it is gay rights. If you truly cared about the community, you’d restrain from flying off the handle anytime someone invokes anything that tangentially involves them. LGBTQ acceptance has dropped precipitously in recent years. It’s not because people have become less tolerant. It’s because people are sick of forced compliance and people, such as yourself, that can’t help but go 0-100 in regards to name calling. I brought it up because we’re on a month where we focus so heavily on one subset of peoples identity and/or beliefs. McDermott being a Christian is fundamental to who he is. The poster i responded to had a problem with that being highlighted. My question to that person is why? Then here you come with the name calling and aggression that too often accompanies this discussion nowadays. To the detriment of the community you claim to care about. There was no part of this that was 0-100, we've talked about this before, as you yourself have stated. I didn't bring it up in the football section, you did. I saw it and called it out. You think that movement is more about Blackrock and Vanguard, so that's what you want everyone else to think too. For so many it's simply being happy that they can be gay or whatever they are and still be able to be part of society and not be vilified or that they can now get married. It wasn't that long ago that they weren't able to do that. It's not like we're 100 years removed or even decades removed from all of that. You can find abuse and corruption with literally any movement, institution, religion, political party, etc. Lumping in an entire "movement" with that faction is what's wrong and a standard to which you don't hold for everyone, especially if they are on your political side. I won't even dig, I'll just ask you straight up...if someone looked into your posting history, are they going to see a balanced history of discussing the corruption of many different groups of people all across the spectrum or is it going to look much more agenda-based and targeted at specific groups that just happen to be more associated with the other side of the political spectrum than you? Just an honest question for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 IMO, priority #1 for Pegula right now is selling PSLs. This decision is the low risk way to do that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, K-9 said: Right. Every team sucks except KC and we should just commiserate with the the Texans, Bears, and Cardinals. Got it. No one said every team but the Super Bowl victor "sucks". What was said is that success is measured by the goal you are aiming for. 15 minutes ago, K-9 said: A more myopic take on success doesn’t exist. Sure, when you turn posts into strawmen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 1 hour ago, newcam2012 said: "When you get there, it is a total crap shoot and all about matchups, player execution, and good health as to which teams ultimately win the SB." Partly true but definelty doesn't tell the whole story. Coaching, play calling, schemes, game time adjustments, etc.. all factor in as well. I'd ask you to take a hard look at the McD playoff games track record for his tenure as a Bill's HC. I mean, look at guys like Cowher and Andy Reid too. Those guys were awful in playoff games for years. Reid was probably one of the worst game-day coaches I had seen At one point in time. Haven’t the Steelers pretty much given us all the blue print on success? Establishing a culture, Continuity of success, and building and promoting from within. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Reid was probably one of the worst game-day coaches I had seen At one point in time. And yet he still went to 3 AFC Championship games and a Super Bowl in his first 7 seasons during that point in time you mention. If Reid could accomplish that while being one of the worst game-day coaches you have ever seen ... how poorly does that reflect on McDermott? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Einstein said: No one said every team but the Super Bowl victor "sucks". What was said is that success is measured by the goal you are aiming for. Sure, when you turn posts into strawmen. Every team’s goal is to win the SB and every team except KC fell short of the goal they were “aiming for.” So according to your myopic take, no other teams were successful. No straw man at all. Just carrying your logic to its natural conclusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 I feel like someone is trying to sell me on the Ignore feature. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 They did it. They changed the culture. Great players take pay cuts to play here. Bills are beloved. Kudos Beane and McDermott 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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