Submarine meant to view Titanic wreck loses contact at bottom of sea

[Doc]

1 hour ago, boyst said:

He's still a douche because he's not an expert on this subject despite being touted as one. 

 

As someone who's gone to the Titanic wreckage 33 times and survived, I'd put him up there with any so-called "expert."  Hell an "expert" died in that submersible.

[boyst]

15 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

As someone who's gone to the Titanic wreckage 33 times and survived, I'd put him up there with any so-called "expert."  Hell an "expert" died in that submersible.

Fair in this perspective. I guess cnn/media would rather chase the clout name then get a legit expert. 

The average Uhmerikan glued to this is probably more impressed by the guy who made the documentary on the Titanic than a guy with a degree from MIT on submarines

[Doc]

4 minutes ago, boyst said:

Fair in this perspective. I guess cnn/media would rather chase the clout name then get a legit expert. 

The average Uhmerikan glued to this is probably more impressed by the guy who made the documentary on the Titanic than a guy with a degree from MIT on submarines

 

I think most experts think the same thing happened to it.  There was obviously structural failure for it to implode.

[boyst]

10 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

I think most experts think the same thing happened to it.  There was obviously structural failure for it to implode.

I guess and maybe they're just too busy like many of the world trying to avoid this crap to want to actually talk about it. Sadly, I'm sure Congress will dredge this out for an investigation, and there will be some big Netflix movie, and we will get a huge spin on it.

[NoSaint]

5 hours ago, Doc said:

 

As someone who's gone to the Titanic wreckage 33 times and survived, I'd put him up there with any so-called "expert."  Hell an "expert" died in that submersible.

I’ve been on like 30 flights. Can I claim to be expert next plane crash?

 

honestly, I don’t know how full involvement but I suspect he’s much more of a passenger than designer on these subs.

[Doc]

20 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

I’ve been on like 30 flights. Can I claim to be expert next plane crash?

 

honestly, I don’t know how full involvement but I suspect he’s much more of a passenger than designer on these subs.

He’s part owner of a submersible company.  I’ve heard he helped design the submersible he’s been using. 

[boyst]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

He’s part owner of a submersible company.  I’ve heard he helped design the submersible he’s been using. 

But by design does that mean he actually knows the physics and engineering of the vehicles or he has opinions based on those experts to him?

 

Or... Is he saying that they should make the feng shui a little more pleasing in the driver seat? Or they should make the entryway at a different angle to allow for various media reasons?

 

I know he knows a lot about his field but his actual field isn't designing submarines. 

[ExiledInIllinois]

Read this! Wow! 

 

https://komonews.com/news/loc...ron-ocean-surface-expedition

 

"...Over cigars one night, (Stockton) Rush told Weissmann that he got the carbon fiber for the Titan’s hull at a big discount because it was past its shelf-life for use in airplanes, Weissmann said. But Rush reassured him it was safe. ..."

 

WTF!

27 minutes ago, boyst said:

But by design does that mean he actually knows the physics and engineering of the vehicles or he has opinions based on those experts to him?

 

Or... Is he saying that they should make the feng shui a little more pleasing in the driver seat? Or they should make the entryway at a different angle to allow for various media reasons?

 

I know he knows a lot about his field but his actual field isn't designing submarines. 

Any idiot knows that spheres are better than tubes at deep dives.

 

And if you are gonna make it a tube... Better to go stronger than carbon fiber. 

 

They have been doing this since the 1960s.  I think the engineering is pretty well set... Even more so now!

[ExiledInIllinois]

 

Yeah... But I got some cheap expired carbon fiber. What could possibly go wrong after 12 dives! 😆 🤣 

 

😆... He's treating it like one day old expired milk! /smdh... Where was this clown from?

 

 

Edited June 25, 2023 by ExiledInIllinois

[ExiledInIllinois]

 

You'd think... They'd have a REMOTE "BlackBox" and sound bouy in place nearby to record every detail up until the last 40th millisecond the implosion went off.  Would help the investigation. 

[Bad Things]

2 hours ago, NoSaint said:

I’ve been on like 30 flights. Can I claim to be expert next plane crash?

 

honestly, I don’t know how full involvement but I suspect he’s much more of a passenger than designer on these subs.

James Cameron helped design the submersible that he piloted to the very bottom of the Mariana Trench, making him only the third person to ever achieve this.

He most certainly is an expert in the field.

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2013/05/23/186302916/Mariana-Trench

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepsea_Challenger

 

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/adventure/article/120325-james-cameron-mariana-trench-challenger-deepest-returns-science-sub

 

[K-9]

33 minutes ago, Bad Things said:

James Cameron helped design the submersible that he piloted to the very bottom of the Mariana Trench, making him only the third person to ever achieve this.

He most certainly is an expert in the field.

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2013/05/23/186302916/Mariana-Trench

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepsea_Challenger

 

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/adventure/article/120325-james-cameron-mariana-trench-challenger-deepest-returns-science-sub

 

Cameron has conducted more deep sea expeditions than anyone else on the planet. 33 trips to the Titanic and is one of only a few to visit Challenger Deep in the Mariana Trench. I’d say his opinion on deep sea exploration is as well qualified as anyone else in the world.

[NoSaint]

12 hours ago, Bad Things said:

James Cameron helped design the submersible that he piloted to the very bottom of the Mariana Trench, making him only the third person to ever achieve this.

He most certainly is an expert in the field.

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2013/05/23/186302916/Mariana-Trench

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepsea_Challenger

 

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/adventure/article/120325-james-cameron-mariana-trench-challenger-deepest-returns-science-sub

 

interesting to learn! Good share. 

[Bob Jones]

On 6/24/2023 at 11:04 AM, Doc said:

 

I stopped reading after you started talked about Terry Pegula not needing to extend McBeane.

LOL. This is hilarious. What’s even more hilarious is that somebody else tagged your post as “awesome.”

 

So this site has tens of thousands of users, and surely MANY people have a different opinion than you, but you’re stating here that when somebody has a different opinion than you, and you see that in the first sentence or two of somebody’s post, you “stop reading.” Uh huh, right.

 

If somehow you are being honest/serious here, I can’t imagine any adult being so triggered to compel such a reaction on a public message board. You would be “not reading” a ton of posts in here, simply because somebody else’s opinion was different than yours. I guess some people….like you…enjoy going through life in an echo chamber, and that is perplexing and sad.

[Doc]

41 minutes ago, Bob Jones said:

LOL. This is hilarious. What’s even more hilarious is that somebody else tagged your post as “awesome.”

 

So this site has tens of thousands of users, and surely MANY people have a different opinion than you, but you’re stating here that when somebody has a different opinion than you, and you see that in the first sentence or two of somebody’s post, you “stop reading.” Uh huh, right.

 

If somehow you are being honest/serious here, I can’t imagine any adult being so triggered to compel such a reaction on a public message board. You would be “not reading” a ton of posts in here, simply because somebody else’s opinion was different than yours. I guess some people….like you…enjoy going through life in an echo chamber, and that is perplexing and sad.

 

Don't flatter yourself.  I skim through the first few lines of posts when I'm trying to play catchup.  Your opening screed made me skip to the next post.

[sherpa]

On 6/24/2023 at 10:40 PM, ExiledInIllinois said:

 

You'd think... They'd have a REMOTE "BlackBox" and sound bouy in place nearby to record every detail up until the last 40th millisecond the implosion went off.  Would help the investigation. 

 

It didn't have a data recorder, but did have a transponder which was completely autonomous from the vessel, ie., had its own separate power supply etc.

Given that the transponder stopped signaling at the same time communication was lost and research as  well as intel listening devices picked up the big bang was a very strong indication the rescue attempt was irrelevant.

[\GoBillsInDallas/]

I think they were attacked by an undersea monster:

 

 

 

[TBBills Fan]

Im so glad I said no when they asked me to go down there!

[WhoTom]

16 minutes ago, TBBills Fan said:

Im so glad I said no when they asked me to go down there!

 

@HOUSE is glad he couldn't find his wallet.

 

Edited June 27, 2023 by WhoTom

[TBBills Fan]

1 minute ago, WhoTom said:

 

@HOUSE is glad he couldn't find his wallet.

 

 

 

I said no because i had the same controller and that mofo broke so quick on me