Solomon Grundy Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 14 hours ago, mbs said: still think EJ needed more time and could have been great. Still my belief and I'm sticking to it!! He needed Brian Daboll/Jordan Palmer in his life back then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCockSportif Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 In spite of most (if not all) evidence to the contrary, I thought that EJM would take this team to the playoffs in Year 2. Second, I didn't think that Whaley was that bad at the time. Wrongly wrong on both counts! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 14 hours ago, Rigotz said: I definitely stayed on the Trent Edwards bandwagon for too long. That little stretch before he took the big hit by the Cardinals Safety and became Trentative Edwards showed more promise than anything we'd seen in years. Often wonder how much that concussion effected him in any other way or was it just on the football field. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCockSportif Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, AuntieEm said: Often wonder how much that concussion effected him in any other way or was it just on the football field. If memory serves, he had a good game after the concussion but then just fell off. Maybe a combination of self doubt and having Dick Jauron as his coach just killed the guy's mental state (if he even had a good mental makeup at all)? You never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Patrick Duffy said: I know I'm not alone with this one, but I was one of those that bought into the "Robert Foster will be WR1 next year". Also, "Foster has great foot work and speed and could be a top WR". That one was way off lol Foster is a good one. I don't know if they've been mentioned yet in this thread but what about PS heroes Duke Williams and Gibran Hamdan ? There was so much hype on here about those guys over the years. For me it was probably JP Losman. I spent years thinking he was the guy and just needed better coaching / O Line. And of courses the 2018 draft I wanted: 1a) Baker Mayfield 1b) Sam Darnold 3) Josh Rosen 4) Josh Allen N/A) Lamar Jackson - I never even considered that we would draft him as a QB so didn't have him in my rankings. I could not have been more wrong on that QB class 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 I actually said out loud, to a table of co-workers if the Bills took Josh Allen I’d stop being a fan of the team. I wanted Mayfield, Darnold, Rosen, Jackson, in that order. If we didn’t get any of those I still didn’t want Allen. I will say I came around fairly early into his rookie year though. 2 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: Foster is a good one. I don't know if they've been mentioned yet in this thread but what about PS heroes Duke Williams and Gibran Hamdan ? There was so much hype on here about those guys over the years. For me it was probably JP Losman. I spent years thinking he was the guy and just needed better coaching / O Line. And of courses the 2018 draft I wanted: 1a) Baker Mayfield 1b) Sam Darnold 3) Josh Rosen 4) Josh Allen N/A) Lamar Jackson - I never even considered that we would draft him as a QB so didn't have him in my rankings. I could not have been more wrong on that QB class We had the same first three of that class. Which if I remember correctly wasn’t common, as a lot of people were saying Darnold was the complete package and Mayfield was too small and had an attitude problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 16 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: Still my belief and I'm sticking to it!! He needed Brian Daboll/Jordan Palmer in his life back then Daboll needed to go to Alabama IMO to become what we saw, as prior to that he wasn't a great OC before Josh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 Josh Allen is terrible and the Bills should draft Rosen. Far and away my worst take ever. Without reading the thread, I bet this is the most popular one 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 I can’t say it was really embarrassing, but I thought Josh was going to be Trubiski 2.0 after his 2nd year, then he absolutely blew the league apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 Wrong Josh. I feel shame 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 was disappointed when I heard we drafted Josh Allen as all the analysis and pre-draft pundits had him as erratic, not proven against top competition, etc Same feeling towards last years 3rd round pick (Bernard) and signing Ed Jordan to the big contract despite mediocre stats In McBeane we trust beotches... I did hit a homer when Stevie (WR) was not franchised cuz I said he would have dropped the tag, which got a reply from his agent on twitter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 32 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: Foster is a good one. I don't know if they've been mentioned yet in this thread but what about PS heroes Duke Williams and Gibran Hamdan ? There was so much hype on here about those guys over the years. For me it was probably JP Losman. I spent years thinking he was the guy and just needed better coaching / O Line. And of courses the 2018 draft I wanted: 1a) Baker Mayfield 1b) Sam Darnold 3) Josh Rosen 4) Josh Allen N/A) Lamar Jackson - I never even considered that we would draft him as a QB so didn't have him in my rankings. I could not have been more wrong on that QB class I don't recall much hype regarding Hamdan if any at all. As for Duke Williams it was a few that were a bit too high on him and felt he was better than he actually was. I guess it's not much difference with those reactions between he and Foster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Avenger Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 (edited) Rob Johnson was going to be the man - well worth what we gave Jacksonville for him Willis McGahee was going to be a game changer at RB Should have drafted Blaine Gabbert Tom Donahoe was going to bring grea6ness to the organization John McCargo was worth moving up for in the draft Josh Allen was going to be a bust - great measurables who can't be coached to actually be good Edited June 19, 2023 by The Avenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 Rosen before Allen. Yep. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 Going to the bathroom with 14 seconds left. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 I wanted to draft Josh Rosen and said we picked the wrong Josh and he was the next EJ Manuel... Never happier to be wrong 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 I defended Rex Ryan after year one. I didn't want to get rid of Tyrod and thought that we could get by with him and our defense. I was a "wrong Josh" advocate. I wanted Rob Johnson over Doug Flutie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 49 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Josh Allen is terrible and the Bills should draft Rosen. Far and away my worst take ever. Without reading the thread, I bet this is the most popular one I know there were rather many here that shared those same feelings at that time. I was one of those who didn't have much of a problem with it. I was in the Baker crowd unfortunately (not as bad as Rosen at least). But when the pick ended up Allen I was fine with it since he had the arm strength and his size, so I thought he would have a chance to be good for Buffalo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 3 hours ago, SWATeam said: Maybe, one day if @BADOLBILZ ever has his first bad take he'll be able to participate in this thread! My worst take ever I've shared here many times. It was that the Bills didn't need to worry about scouting or maybe even trading back into round 1 for Aaron Rodgers because they already had a good prospect to develop in JP Losman. Didn't seem like a big take at the time, and Rodgers had plenty of doubters but my take on the matter was just lazy. Rodgers is a top 10 all-time kinda' passer. But I didn't spend any real time evaluating him and mostly just lumped him in as just another Jeff Tedford product. I don't have many bad takes because I don't weigh in on that many topics. It's easy to make statements about everything you have a first impression about but I don't do that. If I have a strong opinion on it........it's probably because I have seen things that make that point pretty definitive. I've told @GunnerBill many times that if he wants to be right more he needs to adopt that philosophy and say a lot less about peripheral topics.........but he's about where I was as a fan in the late 90's where I was following everything in both college and pro football all the time. Totally engaged in it. I still follow it very closely and more than a lot of people who consider themselves experts......but definitely not the same. Example being the salary cap. I don't bother knowing everyone's cap figures for the next 3 years because I feel the cap is a lot more malleable now. There are just topics that I have come to realize where the juice isn't worth the squeeze. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 I might have believed in EJ Manuel a little longer than most people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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