Where "Follow The Science (TM)" has LEFT us..

[stevestojan]

3 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

You really think it's mere coincidence that the outbreak magically started in a city that also happened to have a lab that studied the same exact virus? I hope your smarter than this. Seriously.

but why will none of you answer whether they think Lyme disease was a bioweapon? Or if you think that’s sounds as insane as everyone else? 

[reddogblitz]

9 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

"I was fired, and I’m looking for a little good news to tell your mother, because the woman has waited and the woman has suffered. The gist of it is that I haven’t got a story left in my head, Biff. So don’t give me a lecture about facts and aspects. I’m not interested. Now what’ve you got to say to me?"

 

Henry Miller in "Death of a Salesman"

 

I saw Philip Seymour Hoffman play Willie Loman on Broadway. 

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

9 hours ago, stevestojan said:

but why will none of you answer whether they think Lyme disease was a bioweapon? Or if you think that’s sounds as insane as everyone else? 

Because it has nothing to do with the origins of covid?

[Joe Ferguson forever]

2 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

Because it has nothing to do with the origins of covid?

it has everything to do with science and different groups knowledge base.

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

14 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

it has everything to do with science and different groups knowledge base.

No it doesn't. The left will hold on to whatever bs the media tells you. The election proved that. So if you lack critical thinking skills, you would still believe the wet market theory. Plus China always is willing to tell the truth right?

[Joe Ferguson forever]

We were discussing lyme disease as a bioweapon moron/.  See for yourself.  Have you ever looked at bacteria through a microscope?  That involves a bit of critical thinking...but you're clearly a microbiology expert just like Willie Loman is a molecular biology genius salesman.

https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=borrelia+burgdorferi+and+mayonii&fr=aaplw&imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fimages.labroots.com%2Fcontent_article_profile_image_d66d2aeb508776c00a2d5cf343f1959c3022ed5d_6539.jpg#id=2&iurl=https%3A%2F%2Fimages.labroots.com%2Fcontent_article_profile_image_d66d2aeb508776c00a2d5cf343f1959c3022ed5d_6539.jpg&action=click

 

oh, and the election proved that nearly half of American voters are dolts, not whatever you were claiming.  It wasn't clear.

Edited 10 hours ago by Joe Ferguson forever

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

44 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

We were discussing lyme disease as a bioweapon moron/.  See for yourself.  Have you ever looked at bacteria through a microscope?  That involves a bit of critical thinking...but you're clearly a microbiology expert just like Willie Loman is a molecular biology genius salesman.

https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=borrelia+burgdorferi+and+mayonii&fr=aaplw&imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fimages.labroots.com%2Fcontent_article_profile_image_d66d2aeb508776c00a2d5cf343f1959c3022ed5d_6539.jpg#id=2&iurl=https%3A%2F%2Fimages.labroots.com%2Fcontent_article_profile_image_d66d2aeb508776c00a2d5cf343f1959c3022ed5d_6539.jpg&action=click

 

oh, and the election proved that nearly half of American voters are dolts, not whatever you were claiming.  It wasn't clear.

Hey moron, I wasn't discussing Lyme disease. Try and keep up. I know it's hard for you.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

1 hour ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

Hey moron, I wasn't discussing Lyme disease. Try and keep up. I know it's hard for you.

Asshat, the topic is science.  RFK jr is pretending to be an expert just like you academic losers.  You still haven't said whether you agree that lyme disease is a bio weapon.  How bout pesticides causing transexuals?  weigh in and be counted.  Stand by your convictions stupid as they are.  

whaddya think?  agree or disagree and give your reasoning

 

Edited 8 hours ago by Joe Ferguson forever

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

10 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Asshat, the topic is science.  RFK jr is pretending to be an expert just like you academic losers.  You still haven't said whether you agree that lyme disease is a bio weapon.  How bout pesticides causing transexuals?  weigh in and be counted.  Stand by your convictions stupid as they are.  

whaddya think?  agree or disagree and give your reasoning

 

I don't care about any of this, I was responding to the origins of covid, asshat.

[Doc]

17 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

nah, were looking for science to come to a consensus.  there's power in numbers.

 

How long do you figure it will take supposedly smart people to realize the obvious?

[BillsFanNC]

Quack deflecting?

 

No friggin way.

 

Can't find his expert team of virologists so he demands people here defend positions that nobody has taken, let alone brought up.

[daz28]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

How long do you figure it will take supposedly smart people to realize the obvious?

I already know your stance is pretty much 100% lab leak, but why do you suppose Ratcliffe is still saying it's low confidence?  He also said this, "I think it was important for the American people to see an institution like the CIA get off the sidelines and be truthful about what our intelligence shows and, at the same time, protect us from adversaries like China if they caused or contributed to this," he added.  All I can come up with is the political implication of accusing China doesn't outweigh the benefit.  So hopefully they are actually as sure as you are, and are taking appropriate measures.  The very last thing we need is distrust, because there's a chance that we're not out of the woods with bird flu and other possibilities.  Our enemies, that would conduct biological warfare, would love nothing more than a complacent science denying population here.  

Edited 4 hours ago by daz28

[BillsFanNC]

16 hours ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

 I hope your smarter than this. Seriously.

 He's not. Not even close.

 

 

A renowned Rutgers biochemist pushes back against colleagues who stifled scientific debate by CENSORING him and others is guilty of slander according to Quack.

 

The sky is dark green today in your world isn't it Quack?

Edited 5 hours ago by BillsFanNC

[Joe Ferguson forever]

2 hours ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

I don't care about any of this, I was responding to the origins of covid, asshat.

of course you don't.  too dumb to care that the nominee to head HHS is an idiot and science denier.  but as the Sen from Colorado told RFK jr, I'll take that as a "yes", I agree with RFK on these questions.

Edited 5 hours ago by Joe Ferguson forever

[Joe Ferguson forever]

36 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

Quack deflecting?

 

No friggin way.

 

Can't find his expert team of virologists so he demands people here defend positions that nobody has taken, let alone brought up.

Harvard, Johns Hopkins and Berkely are in the top 5 if not the top3.  What are you blathering on about?  I'm asking people here to take a stand on positions publicly made by trump's nominee to be HHS director.  He also made extremely dubious Covid declarations.  But in one respect, we agree:  In scientific circles RFK jr is a nobody.

https://americanprofessionguide.com/universities-for-virology-programs/#google_vignette

 

I didn't go down the list far enough to see if Rutgers was even mentioned...

[JDHillFan]

11 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

of course you don't.  too dumb to care thatt he nominee to head HHS is an idiot and science denier.  but as the Sen from Colorado told me RFK jr, I'll take that as a "yes, I agree with RFK on these questions".

Dang! You’ve rubbed elbows with Tim Kaine, had conversation with a senator from Colorado, AND pretended that you went to school with Susan Collins. You’re ELITE! Very impressive!

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

30 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

of course you don't.  too dumb to care that the nominee to head HHS is an idiot and science denier.  but as the Sen from Colorado told RFK jr, I'll take that as a "yes", I agree with RFK on these questions.

I never mentioned rfk at all. I'm sorry tds has fully encompassed any semblance of a brain you have left. You're a sad man.

[Doc]

1 hour ago, daz28 said:

I already know your stance is pretty much 100% lab leak, but why do you suppose Ratcliffe is still saying it's low confidence?  He also said this, "I think it was important for the American people to see an institution like the CIA get off the sidelines and be truthful about what our intelligence shows and, at the same time, protect us from adversaries like China if they caused or contributed to this," he added.  All I can come up with is the political implication of accusing China doesn't outweigh the benefit.  So hopefully they are actually as sure as you are, and are taking appropriate measures.  The very last thing we need is distrust, because there's a chance that we're not out of the woods with bird flu and other possibilities.  Our enemies, that would conduct biological warfare, would love nothing more than a complacent science denying population here.  

 

This.  China would deny it if they said "high confidence" and demand to see proof (that they destroyed 5 years ago).

 

What's done is done.  Hopefully China learned from it, as well as other countries.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

replace anti semites with magas (often the same) and you have the science denying idiots here

“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”

― Jean-Paul Sartre

 

[The Frankish Reich]

14 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

I saw Philip Seymour Hoffman play Willie Loman on Broadway. 

That's an inspired casting. No one could do the sad sack like Hoffman.