Beasley claims Dak is "best leader he ever played with by far"...

[Ga boy]

On 6/16/2023 at 10:17 AM, Heitz said:

 

That's just facts, Gug, not opinion. 🍞

 

 

And this is who *Beasley* thinks is a good leader?  Have y'all watched Beasley's actions?  He's the guy who's opinion on leadership we should care about?

 

Lastly, it's subjective.  For example, just because all of my many, many, high-paid employees think I'M the best leader they've ever had, not everyone might feel that way (though I find that extremely hard to believe since I'm spoken of well in all high-powered business meetings).

 

I bet they laugh at all of your jokes too 😂

[Eastport bills]

1 hour ago, Beck Water said:

 

This is a worse take than thinking mint jelly is best on toast. 

The Bucs had the #3 offense for points and the #2 offense for passing yards the year they won with Brady.  #28 rushing offense.  Clearly their offense had a strong role in getting them there, and specifically their passing offense - which means Brady.  He got them to the NFC Championship Game that year.

 

The only game where you can say the Bucs got there in spite of Brady, was the Conference Championship with Green Bay.  Brady threw three picks, and was helped out by ticky-tak penalties against GB's secondary, at the worst time.  I thought Green Bay shoulda won that but they just couldn't close the deal.

 

And yeah, the Tampa D and their run game carried the day against KC.

 

So Brady got them there,  no question.  Then the refs, the run game, and the D closed the deal.

Just google Cole Beasley Dak Prescott 

[since79]

What did he say in a feminine voice as they broke pregame huddles” l luv you Josh Allen”.   He must of liked Josh’s goofball leadership because he fed into it…..

 

[Chicken Boo]

On 6/16/2023 at 9:51 AM, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

 

Thank God!  Taking snaps from better talent...

[BillsFan4]

I am generally not a fan of Beasley on Twitter but this doesn’t upset me.

 

You could argue the “by far” part was unnecessary. I do think maybe that was meant to be a bit inflammatory but it could have been meant as a shot at Brady more than Allen. I guess you could say his response to the tweet asking about Allen was a bit of a shot at Allen. Beasley had the chance to say Allen was a good leader too but chose to talk about his physical gifts instead.

I think it could also just be partly due to Beasley’s views on leadership. Knowing his views on things other than football, I could see where he views a leader as more of the typical “Alpha male” type.

 

And I don’t think that’s Allen. I think Allen is still more of a jokester. I do think guys naturally gravitate towards him because he’s a fun dude, puts his body on the line and leads by example on the field. He will do anything he needs to do on the field to win a game. But I think he still has room to grow as a leader, and I think he will.

 

I mean, if we are being totally honest here I think we know Allen probably still needs to grow a bit more as a leader. we’ve all seen when he gets into his funks during a game and that blank stare + look in his eyes that he gets. It definitely happens much less than it used to and I think/hope it will continue to improve even more. He’s also rallied the team on the sidelines too. So I know he can do it. I think it’s just about finding a bit more consistency. He’s getting there…

[Chicken Boo]

3 hours ago, eball said:

Why do Bills fans have such thin skins?

 

 

After all these years...

[CoudyBills]

22 hours ago, Eastport bills said:

When I say go away, I mean stop interjecting yourself into Bills business. You had your time here and we appreciate your efforts, now find yourself another job and wish your ex-teammates good luck. Stop comparing our players to others and worry about the back end of your career.

He didn't do that.  It was the illogical children on this board that did that.

[Eastport bills]

5 minutes ago, CoudyBills said:

He didn't do that.  It was the illogical children on this board that did that.

Good point, trying to be controversial.

[Beck Water]

4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Beas is not smart. 

 

He's supposed to be very smart - about football. 

His problem is apparently believing this high degree of football intelligence evidently carries over to other aspects of life.

I think in this case, his purpose was simply to give props to Dak and flatter CJ Stroud in the hope they would maybe express interest with their teams in bringing him into training camp. 

I don't think he realized the implications of his words or how they could be taken as negatives, both against other QBs he's played, with and ultimately - against Dak himself when he responded that Allen was the "most physically talented".   As BadOlBilz said in the post you quoted, nothing good can come of rank ordering the players you've played with. 

It's sort of like Yiddish, where I've been told by good authority that it's almost impossible to give a pure and unambiguous compliment.  If you say that a woman is pretty, you apparently imply that she has no brains; if you say that she's smart, you apparently imply that she isn't good-looking.

 

If Beas was trying to butter up Dak saying he's the best leader of the QBs he's played with, with unmatched huddle presence, he kind of tarnished that now by implying he's not that physically talented.

 

[Beck Water]

41 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said:

I am generally not a fan of Beasley on Twitter but this doesn’t upset me.

 

You could argue the “by far” part was unnecessary. I do think maybe that was meant to be a bit inflammatory but it could have been meant as a shot at Brady more than Allen

 

I agree with the rest of your post.  I think Allen needs to learn there's a time to be a jokester and a time to get in a guy's grill; there's a time to lighten it up, and there's a time for "when things look grim, be the Grim Reaper".  I think he's got his own leadership style, but he also knows has room for improvement as a leader, and he knows it.

 

With this idea of a shot on Brady though, that would be dumber than I think Beasley is if so.
Beasley played ~900 snaps with Romo

He played ~1800+ snaps with Prescott

He played ~ 2100 snaps with Allen
He played 13 snaps with Brady

 

So if he thought 13 snaps is a sound basis for comparison, he's dumber (in a football sense) than I think he is. 

 

I don't think it was meant as a comment on Brady.

Edited June 17, 2023 by Beck Water

[BillsFan4]

48 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

I agree with the rest of your post.  I think Allen needs to learn there's a time to be a jokester and a time to get in a guy's grill; there's a time to lighten it up, and there's a time for "when things look grim, be the Grim Reaper".  I think he's got his own leadership style, but he also knows has room for improvement as a leader, and he knows it.

 

With this idea of a shot on Brady though, that would be dumber than I think Beasley is if so.
Beasley played ~900 snaps with Romo

He played ~1800+ snaps with Prescott

He played ~ 2100 snaps with Allen
He played 13 snaps with Brady

 

So if he thought 13 snaps is a sound basis for comparison, he's dumber (in a football sense) than I think he is. 

 

I don't think it was meant as a comment on Brady.

Maybe it wasn’t. I don’t know if it was or not. Just looking at the QBs he played with and what they are known for, I just thought that if that “by far” comment was meant as a shot at someone (not saying it definitely was), I felt it was more likely a shot at Brady (or maybe Romo too?) because Brady has been talked about so much as being the ultimate leader/GOAT. Allen isn't necessarily known for his leadership. More his physical gifts and toughness on the football field (leaping guys, trucking right over guys, insane throws, etc).

[Beck Water]

21 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said:

Maybe it wasn’t. I don’t know if it was or not. Just looking at the QBs he played with and what they are known for, I just thought that if that “by far” comment was meant as a shot at someone (not saying it definitely was), I felt it was more likely a shot at Brady (or maybe Romo too?) because Brady has been talked about so much as being the ultimate leader/GOAT. Allen isn't necessarily known for his leadership. More his physical gifts and toughness on the football field (leaping guys, trucking right over guys, insane throws, etc).

 

I don't know if Beasley meant it as a shot, but if so, I don't see how he can have aimed it at Brady.  That would be "football dumb", to base something on 13 snaps.  I don't think Beasley is "football dumb".

 

Didn't Beane say that Beasley is someone who "wears his heart on his sleeve" IOW someone who lives in the moment and just reacts?  I think @BADOLBILZ has it right that he may be  someone without a lot of "emotional intelligence", who can't understand the potential impact of his public words beyond the immediate point he wants to make, a "cant see the forest for the tree I'm focused on" type.

 

So he wanted to praise the Texas QBs, in part because he lives in Texas and would like a job next season in Texas.  He literally didn't see that the words he chose "by far", would be taken as a shot on other QBs he's played with.

Edited June 17, 2023 by Beck Water

[boyst]

5 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

This is a worse take than thinking mint jelly is best on toast. 

The Bucs had the #3 offense for points and the #2 offense for passing yards the year they won with Brady.  #28 rushing offense.  Clearly their offense had a strong role in getting them there, and specifically their passing offense - which means Brady.  He got them to the NFC Championship Game that year.

 

The only game where you can say the Bucs got there in spite of Brady, was the Conference Championship with Green Bay.  Brady threw three picks, and was helped out by ticky-tak penalties against GB's secondary, at the worst time.  I thought Green Bay shoulda won that but they just couldn't close the deal.

 

And yeah, the Tampa D and their run game carried the day against KC.

 

So Brady got them there,  no question.  Then the refs, the run game, and the D closed the deal.

 

4 hours ago, uticaclub said:

You dont think the leadership had anything to do with it? The Defense is why they beat KC, Brady got them there.

Tom Brady tortures kittens.

[MJS]

When someone says something nice about someone, it doesn't mean they are saying anything bad about another person. His comment has NOTHING to do with Josh Allen.

[NoSaint]

24 minutes ago, MJS said:

When someone says something nice about someone, it doesn't mean they are saying anything bad about another person. His comment has NOTHING to do with Josh Allen.

except by his phrasing he made it also about the others and by proxy about himself with the hot take. 
 

what he said: dak is a better leader than… 

 

what he could have said: dak is a tremendous leader 

 

beas will do it over and over as he gets a kick out of throwing bombs instead of simply being a great leader himself. 

[RiotAct]

so… do we hate Beasley again?

[Green Lightning]

Sounds like a guy who wants to sign with the Cowboys.

[Beck Water]

4 hours ago, boyst said:

Tom Brady tortures kittens.

 

That neither addresses or refutes the peculiar claim that the Bucs defense, not Brady, got them to the Superbowl.

[Beck Water]

4 hours ago, MJS said:

When someone says something nice about someone, it doesn't mean they are saying anything bad about another person. His comment has NOTHING to do with Josh Allen.

 

It depends upon the language used, right?

 

Let's look at something else Beasley just tweeted about Jaxon Smith-Njigba, so we divorce it of our Fandom:

 

Smith-Njigba was the first of 4 WR drafted one after the other in this year's first round.

 

Beasley could say "I thought Jaxon Smith-Njigba would be nice" or "I thought Jaxon Smith-Njigba had potential to be special". 

 

That has no implications about the other WR.

 

But when he says "one of the very few..." the implications are pretty clear he thinks most of the WR in the 2023 draft are NOT gonna be nice.

 

[Mat68]

Beasley is an enigma.  I respect his honesty and candidness.  He should be a legend.  Small white rapper slot receiver fits the mafia.   Beasley seemed to approach the fanbase and media different after the covid stuff.  Idk maybe he felt Allen was pc and team during that and not there for his teammates 🤷🏻‍♂️.