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27 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

Yes, you voted to drain the swamp and then voted for a guy with an already well docomented career of swindles, cheats, lies and pu$$y grabbing. And he is exactly what he’s always been. Strong work!

As did you.  So endeth the lesson. 

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1 hour ago, John from Riverside said:

And of course, you have proof of all of this

Exactly, for one it's a wide open question.  For the other, it's been documented in legal papers, pictures and videos for decades.  And yes, that recently posted vid with eva lola brigida was a reach...she's no Stormy Daniels.

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1 hour ago, John from Riverside said:

And of course, you have proof of all of this


Sure John.   13 hours ago Cle posted the message below.   Cle references “corruption and deviant as the rest for DC”, and I don’t assume we would argue that Biden is a significant player in DC, would we? 
 

Sometime thereafter, Red gives the post the “like” post, indicating agreement with the sentiment offered.  That is to say, Red agreed that DC is as corrupt and deviant as Trump, but prefers his version of corruption and deviance to that of others and voted accordingly. 
 

If you’re a champion of the notion of the systemic goodness and nobility of DC generally, or of one party specifically, have at it.  I’ll have to scroll back a bit to see when you challenged Cle on his premise.  
 

13 hours ago, cle23 said:

 

Trump claimed all this garbage the first time, and he literally did none of it.  It's all a ploy to try to get elected.  He is a corrupt and deviant as the rest of DC, but somehow everyone believes he is there to "clear the swamp."  

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8 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

Exactly, for one it's a wide open question.  For the other, it's been documented in legal papers, pictures and videos for decades.  And yes, that recently posted vid with eva lola brigida was a reach...she's no Stormy Daniels.

Eva Longoria is also a fantastic person. I’ve met her three tomes  once down at universal studios whenever I was taking my daughter to an audition and once sat next to her at a Lakers game.  And we were at the same Christmas party for a management company. She was there with a friend. She was always gracious.

3 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:


Sure John.   13 hours ago Cle posted the message below.   Cle references “corruption and deviant as the rest for DC”, and I don’t assume we would argue that Biden is a significant player in DC, would we? 
 

Sometime thereafter, Red gives the post the “like” post, indicating agreement with the sentiment offered.  That is to say, Red agreed that DC is as corrupt and deviant as Trump, but prefers his version of corruption and deviance to that of others and voted accordingly. 
 

If you’re a champion of the notion of the systemic goodness and nobility of DC generally, or of one party specifically, have at it.  I’ll have to scroll back a bit to see when you challenged Cle on his premise.  
 

I’m not going to defend dc

 

The only thing that I’m going to see on that is that Donald Trump took the corruption that was already there and he didn’t fix it he tried to see if he could get away with worse

 

People keep on trying to pit Donald Trump as some kind of outsider he’s not he fancies himself in elite, and he goes out and he tries to act like he’s the champion for idiots. He doesn’t even like the idiots that fawn over him he wouldn’t piss on them if they were on fire just a means to an end

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Trump promised to drain the swamp and was unable to deliver...

 

@cle23

 

Why do you think that is senator chuckie?

 

Unelected bureaucrats should be able to wield their power to take down elected officials seems to be his position. 

 

 

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3 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

One critical difference, then, is that most Trump supporters voted for an outside the beltway candidate to try and change things, while those on the left fully embraced the embodiment of the swamp with a 5 decade insider.   That they concurrently rage about the state of our world, injustice and the like makes for interesting dialogue when you can find a liberal not screaming “cult” into the wind.   

 

not only a 5 decade insider but one that supported and enacted most the things they scream about today. he was a racist who opposed integration. hes on record saying marriage is only between a man and woman. he and most notably his vice president were involved in a heavy handed police state that went after low level non violent offenders for mass incarceration. 

 

all forgiven when if he proclaims his  "values" have done a 180 and change with the wind. all that's necessary is the D in front. you don't even need to be coherent.

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8 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

Trump promised to drain the swamp and was unable to deliver...

 

@cle23

 

Why do you think that is senator chuckie?

 

Unelected bureaucrats should be able to wield their power to take down elected officials seems to be his position. 

 

 

Well, he’s not lying
Maybe if you just would’ve given up the documents the first time and not try to hide them

The feds will get you for ***** like that

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1 hour ago, redtail hawk said:

She didn't seem to mind.  But a boob rub by an arm and a pu$$y grab are kinda different...btw, we ballroom dance as a hobby.  Often you dance with other partners.  Boob rubs are pretty common, especially in Tango or even Waltz.  No one cares.  in truth, occasionally I get a normal, slight, natural testosterone boost from the dance.  Is that bad?

Did I miss the R policies you disagree with?

Told you I would be right with you. Hold steady. 
 

Good to see you mount a defense of the old boy even though you are not a partisan. Very kind. 

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4 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

Told you I would be right with you. Hold steady. 
 

Good to see you mount a defense of the old boy even though you are not a partisan. Very kind. 

From the video, it looks to me, like Joe was getting kind of handsy

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Just now, John from Riverside said:

From the video, it looks to me, like Joe was getting kind of handsy

Some now of days would call "Hansy" downplaying sexual assault on camera.

 

 

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14 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

Told you I would be right with you. Hold steady. 
 

Good to see you mount a defense of the old boy even though you are not a partisan. Very kind. 

Who said I'm not partisan.  With what the R party has become, there's really only one reasonable choice for me in most elections.

7 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

Some now of days would call "Hansy" downplaying sexual assault on camera.

 

 

We, at least I, call it dancing.  Good, healthy activity as we age.  And before you say it, no one has ever been forced to dance with me.

 

This is like a PGA player versus a guy who shoots 90's but still, boob rubbing:

 

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37 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

 

People keep on trying to pit Donald Trump as some kind of outsider he’s not he fancies himself in elite, and he goes out and he tries to act like he’s the champion for idiots. He doesn’t even like the idiots that fawn over him he wouldn’t piss on them if they were on fire just a means to an end

 

outsider in the sense of career politicians. no one thinks he does not consider himself a elite. he has built a entire brand on being the "rich guy". he ran on im rich and use the many benefits these corrupt jacka$$es have set up for people like me..look how i use tax loopholes ect ect. when your the only politician to visit and talk how important a very small town who was destroyed by a chemical spill as the ones who scream and want to control gas stoves over climate issues, that has a effect. when you talk about how much money we spend yet the average person actually see make a difference. the full weight of the gov and its operatives were against him. media slanders him at every opportunity. gov immediately tryed to impeach him..day 1. russia russia russia with full backing of fbi collusion. i mean what else do you need to know.

 

they hate him. thier is no question about that. do you think the gov is corrupt? do you think they work for the american people? if the answer is yes then do you think they would give a warm welcome to someone who is not serious about breaking up the nice little party they have going on? of coarse not. they would do whatever they can to stop that.

 

im all for letting the bull in the china shop. how can it be any worse then mass inflation destroying our economy and the threat of nuclear destruction right around the corner as we speak. 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

Some now of days would call "Hansy" downplaying sexual assault on camera.

 

 

Eva is a full grown woman who did not make mention of it so she didn’t considered a big deal
 

No, it’s not sexual assault. It’s sexual assault if eva was offended.

3 minutes ago, Buffarukus said:

 

outsider in the sense of career politicians. no one thinks he does not consider himself a elite. he has built a entire brand on being the "rich guy". he ran on im rich and use the many benefits these corrupt jacka$$es have set up for people like me..look how i use tax loopholes ect ect. when your the only politician to visit and talk how important a very small town who was destroyed by a chemical spill as the ones who scream and want to control gas stoves over climate issues, that has a effect. when you talk about how much money we spend yet the average person actually see make a difference. the full weight of the gov and its operatives were against him. media slanders him at every opportunity. gov immediately tryed to impeach him..day 1. russia russia russia with full backing of fbi collusion. i mean what else do you need to know.

 

they hate him. thier is no question about that. do you think the gov is corrupt? do you think they work for the american people? if the answer is no then do you think they would give a warm welcome to someone who is not serious about breaking up the nice little party they have going on? of coarse not. they would do whatever they can to stop that.

 

im all for letting the bull in the china shop. how can it be any worse then mass inflation destroying our economy and the threat of nuclear destruction right around the corner as we speak. 

 

 

 

 

Trump cares about none of those things he’s fishing for votes in a heavy red state

I don’t know if you seen the videos of trump talking to those people from the railroad cars spill but it sounded like a bunch of cult worshipers begging to the Jesus. It was total Creepshow.

 


 

 

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4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

 

Trump cares about none of those things he’s fishing for votes in a heavy red state

I don’t know if you seen the videos of trump talking to those people from the railroad cars spill but it sounded like a bunch of cult worshipers begging to the Jesus. It was total Creepshow.

 


 

 

 

every politician is fishing for votes. maybe they were "worshipping jesus" because they were in desperate need for help and joe was a bit to busy to be bothered by citizens of his country who needed help. they wouldn't make a dent in a poll so f em. sorry you saw that as cringe but it means a bit more to people who are routinley a afterthought of this gov. THAT is standard procedure. you have no voting power then you mean nothing to these people.

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Just now, Buffarukus said:

 

every politician is fishing for votes. maybe they were "worshipping jesus" because they were in desperate need for help and joe was a bit to busy to be bothered by citizens of his country who needed help. they wouldn't make a dent in a poll so f em. sorry you saw that as cringe but it means a bit more to people who are routinley a afterthought of this gov. THAT is standard procedure. you have no voting power then you mean nothing to these people.

And how exactly did Trump? “Help” them

By going down to them and seeing, if you vote for me, I will fix all of this? He caused all of this with his deregulation of the railroads

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48 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

Eva Longoria is also a fantastic person. I’ve met her three tomes  once down at universal studios whenever I was taking my daughter to an audition and once sat next to her at a Lakers game.  And we were at the same Christmas party for a management company. She was there with a friend. She was always gracious.

Sounds like a nice person, and I didn’t see anything wrong with the embrace.  She’s also quite likely to be taking advantage if every tax dodge available, has a carbon footprint the size of Rhode Island, and prefers her security people armed to the teeth.  That all just makes her a typical human. 

 

 

48 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

I’m not going to defend dc

 

The only thing that I’m going to see on that is that Donald Trump took the corruption that was already there and he didn’t fix it he tried to see if he could get away with worse

 

People keep on trying to pit Donald Trump as some kind of outsider he’s not he fancies himself in elite, and he goes out and he tries to act like he’s the champion for idiots. He doesn’t even like the idiots that fawn over him he wouldn’t piss on them if they were on fire just a means to an end

You literally attempted to defend Biden in your last response. You’re doing it again.   If you’re unaware of Biden’s history of lies and embellishments, or his mea culpa on groping women when it was politically expedient, his close friendship and partnership with white supremacists, notorious misogynists and at least one guy who left a young lady at the bottom of a bay, then I don’t know what to tell you.  But yeah..Trump. 
 


 

 

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2 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Sounds like a nice person, and I didn’t see anything wrong with the embrace.  She’s also quite likely to be taking advantage if every tax dodge available, has a carbon footprint the size of Rhode Island, and prefers her security people armed to the teeth.  That all just makes her a typical human. 

 

 

You literally attempted to defend Biden in your last response. You’re doing it again.   If you’re unaware of Biden’s history of lies and embellishments, or his mea culpa on groping women when it was politically expedient, his close friendship and partnership with white supremacists, notorious misogynists and at least one guy who left a young lady at the bottom of a bay, then I don’t know what to tell you.  But yeah..Trump. 
 


 

 

Is Biden, even in what I just said I thought we were talking about Trump here

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1 minute ago, John from Riverside said:

And how exactly did Trump? “Help” them

By going down to them and seeing, if you vote for me, I will fix all of this? He caused all of this with his deregulation of the railroads

 

heh. your missing the point and "he caused this" means you havent looked into it enough to see it was a a combination of things that, as usual was scapegoated onto one man. 4 years and so much scapegoating, a entire lifetime in gov and nothing to see here seems to be the standard view. so going down and providing food and water as a private citizen is no different then ignoring them entirely? ok then. i don't think this discussion is going to change your outlook. your mind is made up. thats ok.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Buffarukus said:

 

heh. your missing the point and "he caused this" means you havent looked into it enough to see it was a a combination of things that, as usual was scapegoated onto one man. 4 years and so much scapegoating, a entire lifetime in gov and nothing to see here seems to be the standard view. so going down and providing food and water as a private citizen is no different then ignoring them entirely? ok then. i don't think this discussion is going to change your outlook. your mind is made up. thats ok.

 

 

Take a look at win, the de regulation of the railroads happened
 

He went down and gave them bottled Trump water. Probably had a hard time getting rid of it and I bought them some McDonald’s the food that they were about to throw out.

 

You’re making like he actually cares about these people he don’t. It was a photo op.

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