Gotta give Florio props, he loves to stoke the fire and he’s real good at it.

[MPL]

38 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I wish the seat was warm for two years. I don't believe that's reality. 

 

McD seat was ice cold for two years and is only getting slightly warm now. 

 

That seat won't get hot for another 2 or 3 years after more likely playoff failures. 

let me guess… you’re not a McD guy?

[MikePJ76]

Fl0ri0 is 1 0f the w0rst and always has been.

 

 

[Doc Brown]

His and Simms conversation about McDermott was interesting and not that far off from the argument he had here.  It kind of went like this.

 

Florio - If the Bills lose in the Wild Card round next year McDermott needs to be fired.  If they lose in the divisional round ownership has a heck of a hard decision to make.

Simms - To be fair, nobody gave a ***** about the Bills until McDermott was hired.

Florio - I'm just gonna say it.  If I'm a Bills fan I'd want them to fire McDermott immediately and hire an upcoming innovative offensive mind like Ben Johnson or whoever.  They already missed out on Sean Payton.

Simms - Ok.  Fine.  I'm just going to go smoke weed and play with the chickens on my farm.

[Bferra13]

4 hours ago, JoPoy88 said:

Pretty sure Mikey is a Pats fan, so, you know, don’t sweat it.

Actually I believe he's a piglet fan. Steelers for those that don't refer to them as the Squeelers. One thing I know about Florio is he hates him some Bills. Dude splooged all over the table weekly about them moving on a weekly basis before Pegula bought the team. Screw that guy.

[BADOLBILZ]

1 minute ago, Doc Brown said:

His and Simms conversation about McDermott was interesting and not that far off from the argument he had here.  It kind of went like this.

 

Florio - If the Bills lose in the Wild Card round next year McDermott needs to be fired.  If they lose in the divisional round ownership has a heck of a hard decision to make.

Simms - To be fair, nobody gave a ***** about the Bills until McDermott was hired.

Florio - I'm just gonna say it.  If I'm a Bills fan I'd want them to fire McDermott immediately and hire an upcoming innovative offensive mind like Ben Johnson or whoever.  They already missed out on Sean Payton.

Simms - The Sean Payton who lost his last 3 playoff games at home, twice as the #1 seed, repeatedly squandering their high seeding?   Aren't we criticizing McDermott for not winning games he should in the playoffs?

 

 

FIFY

 

[Doc Brown]

9 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

FIFY

 

One Super Bowl in 14 years with Brees but Simms didn't push back because he doesn't want to bite the hand that feeds him.

[newcam2012]

1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

His and Simms conversation about McDermott was interesting and not that far off from the argument he had here.  It kind of went like this.

 

Florio - If the Bills lose in the Wild Card round next year McDermott needs to be fired.  If they lose in the divisional round ownership has a heck of a hard decision to make.

Simms - To be fair, nobody gave a ***** about the Bills until McDermott was hired.

Florio - I'm just gonna say it.  If I'm a Bills fan I'd want them to fire McDermott immediately and hire an upcoming innovative offensive mind like Ben Johnson or whoever.  They already missed out on Sean Payton.

Simms - Ok.  Fine.  I'm just going to go smoke weed and play with the chickens on my farm.

I would welcome Ben Johnson in a heart beat! Exactly what the Bills need. Diggs wouldn't be complaining that's for sure.

[John from Riverside]

11 hours ago, Tipster19 said:

I dunno, the last year and a half to 2 years Florio has been rabble rousing the notion that the current Bills’ administration is suspect and may not be the answer to getting the Bills to the promise land, whether it be Beane, McDermott or both. I can’t say that he’s wrong, especially after this latest fiasco, it was made to order for a gossip monger like Florio. I mean Florio’s whole existence depends on stirring the pot and the Bills handed him a real doozy to him on a silver platter. I just watched the latest episode of PFT where he actually called out McDermott for lying about the highly concerned/excused absence PCs. McDermott imo has been overplaying his hand a bit for some time now. There were rumblings about Dabol wanting out even it was just for another OC position to Frazier’s awkward release or whatever you want to call it. McDermott reminds me of Tony Dungy only with a more rigid way of getting his point across. 
 

I think the best way for McDermott to get out from under fire is to come up with an awesome defense week in, week out and to ride the tandem of Rosseau and Leonard in particular. 

There is literally nothing to support your notion that Brian Dabol wanted out of the Buffalo Bills, even if it was for an offensive coordinator position

46 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I would welcome Ben Johnson in a heart beat! Exactly what the Bills need. Diggs wouldn't be complaining that's for sure.

You have a coach that consistently wins and you want to move on to a lottery ticket

[newcam2012]

46 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

There is literally nothing to support your notion that Brian Dabol wanted out of the Buffalo Bills, even if it was for an offensive coordinator position

You have a coach that consistently wins and you want to move on to a lottery ticket

He consistently wins in the regular season. Almost any decent coach with Allen at the helm can get the team to the playoffs. That's exactly what McD has done. Nice regular season records. That just isn't enough. Wouldn't you agree? 

 

If you are satisfied and or content with that then one won't be advocating for change. The rest of my post is mute.

 

The playoffs are a whole different animal. McD has proven to be average to below average. The numbers don't lie. His record is 4-5. Even an optimist can't think that's good. 

 

More specifically, look at the last 3 playoff seasons. Outcoached and outclassed by KC in the playoffs. Granted KC was better but McD and his game plan was inferior. 13 seconds is what it is. Not gonna beat a dead horse. Miami and Cinci last year has also been discussed at nausism. It all adds up to underachieving. Don't think coaching didn't contribute to this. That definelty includes McD!

 

Even go back to the loss at the Texans for a reference if you will. Not good! Perhaps, that was a preview of what was to come.

 

It all adds up mediocrity at best. Blown opportunities. McD has simple not been up to the task. Year after year after year the Bills have fallen short when it counts. That's pretty much undeniable and under the McD reign. 

 

The counter argument is McD is young, gaining experience, other coaches failed early in their coaching careers. I get that but there's still no guarantee McD will be any more successful in the future. 

 

My eyes have seen enough. Years of playoff incompetence has to fall on the coaching staff. I know many will not agree. I have lost confidence in McD come playoff time. He routinely gets out coached and out schemed. Enough!!!

 

I'd rather take my shot with an up and coming offense minded coach like Ben Johnson. I think he will absolutely get the best out of Allen and the Bills weapons. Something Dorsey failed to do last year. This year will are all holding our breath. 

 

For me, this is McD last year to prove has up to the task. I doubt he is and I'll be pounding the table for change. 

 

 

[Doc Brown]

2 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

I would welcome Ben Johnson in a heart beat! Exactly what the Bills need. Diggs wouldn't be complaining that's for sure.

Yeah.  We know you want McDermott gone yesterday.  There's only so many ways you can say it though.  LOL.

[newcam2012]

9 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Yeah.  We know you want McDermott gone yesterday.  There's only so many ways you can say it though.  LOL.

Ok I get the hint. I'll shut up. 

[Tipster19]

2 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

There is literally nothing to support your notion that Brian Dabol wanted out of the Buffalo Bills, even if it was for an offensive coordinator position

Yes I do. I’m providing a link but there’s more than just one article about this.

 

https://billswire.usatoday.com/2022/02/01/brian-flores-lawsuit-against-nfl-suggests-brian-daboll-wanted-to-leave-bills-sean-mcdermott-staff/

[GunnerBill]

4 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

One Super Bowl in 14 years with Brees but Simms didn't push back because he doesn't want to bite the hand that feeds him.

 

Nobody loses to inferior teams in the playoffs quite as well as Sean Payton. 

[4merper4mer]

5 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

His and Simms conversation about McDermott was interesting and not that far off from the argument he had here.  It kind of went like this.

 

Florio - If the Bills lose in the Wild Card round next year McDermott needs to be fired.  If they lose in the divisional round ownership has a heck of a hard decision to make.

Simms - To be fair, nobody gave a ***** about the Bills until McDermott was hired.

Florio - I'm just gonna say it.  If I'm a Bills fan I'd want them to fire McDermott immediately and hire an upcoming innovative offensive mind like Ben Johnson or whoever.  They already missed out on Sean Payton.

Simms - Ok.  Fine.  I'm just going to go smoke weed and play with the chickens on my farm.

For the love of Pete.  Sean Payton?  The coke head clown?  He has one Super Bowl in 293 seasons.  Now he’s an automatic solution?

Edited June 16, 2023 by 4merper4mer

[4merper4mer]

57 minutes ago, Tipster19 said:

Yes I do. I’m providing a link but there’s more than just one article about this.

 

https://billswire.usatoday.com/2022/02/01/brian-flores-lawsuit-against-nfl-suggests-brian-daboll-wanted-to-leave-bills-sean-mcdermott-staff/

Is there any coach in the history of the NFL, MLB, NBA or NHL that has avoided conflict with all of there assistants?  I’m thinking maybe Perry Fewell in his one week stint.  Maybe we should hire him.

[4merper4mer]

1 hour ago, newcam2012 said:

Ok I get the hint. I'll shut up. 

 

2 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

He consistently wins in the regular season. Almost any decent coach with Allen at the helm can get the team to the playoffs. That's exactly what McD has done. Nice regular season records. That just isn't enough. Wouldn't you agree? 

 

If you are satisfied and or content with that then one won't be advocating for change. The rest of my post is mute.

 

The playoffs are a whole different animal. McD has proven to be average to below average. The numbers don't lie. His record is 4-5. Even an optimist can't think that's good. 

 

More specifically, look at the last 3 playoff seasons. Outcoached and outclassed by KC in the playoffs. Granted KC was better but McD and his game plan was inferior. 13 seconds is what it is. Not gonna beat a dead horse. Miami and Cinci last year has also been discussed at nausism. It all adds up to underachieving. Don't think coaching didn't contribute to this. That definelty includes McD!

 

Even go back to the loss at the Texans for a reference if you will. Not good! Perhaps, that was a preview of what was to come.

 

It all adds up mediocrity at best. Blown opportunities. McD has simple not been up to the task. Year after year after year the Bills have fallen short when it counts. That's pretty much undeniable and under the McD reign. 

 

The counter argument is McD is young, gaining experience, other coaches failed early in their coaching careers. I get that but there's still no guarantee McD will be any more successful in the future. 

 

My eyes have seen enough. Years of playoff incompetence has to fall on the coaching staff. I know many will not agree. I have lost confidence in McD come playoff time. He routinely gets out coached and out schemed. Enough!!!

 

I'd rather take my shot with an up and coming offense minded coach like Ben Johnson. I think he will absolutely get the best out of Allen and the Bills weapons. Something Dorsey failed to do last year. This year will are all holding our breath. 

 

For me, this is McD last year to prove has up to the task. I doubt he is and I'll be pounding the table for change. 

 

 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/864781-philadelphia-eagles-is-it-finally-time-to-fire-andy-reid-as-eagles-head-coach

[Doc Brown]

20 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

For the love of Pete.  Sean Payton?  The coke head clown?  He has one Super Bowl in 293 seasons.  Now he’s an automatic solution?

It's actually an interesting watch if you have the time.  Popular debate on these boards.  He mentions Johnson and Payton around 8:50. 

 

 

[4merper4mer]

43 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

It's actually an interesting watch if you have the time.  Popular debate on these boards.  He mentions Johnson and Payton around 8:50. 

 

 

With respect for your post and thoughts I’m still going to decline listening to that.  Reasons:

 

1. the whole Payton thing is laughable.  If the Bills fired McD in January and hired Payton, Florio would have been apoplectic.

 

2. Florio has always been a shill for Kraft even while rub and tug Bob danced on Ralph’s grave and tried to get the Bills moved to Toronto.  Although in recent years he has said positive things I believe that has been born out of the undeniable truth that the Bills have been successful.  If there is any opening at all….Kim’s health….stadium issues…….whatever…..Kraft will try to exploit it and this douche bag will be right there in his corner.  He’s a douche.

[dwight in philly]

16 hours ago, Arkady Renko said:

He always loved talking about the Bills moving. 

Totally agree.. get the feeling he thinks Buffalo is not worthy.. 

[ExWNYer]

15 hours ago, Augie said:

We have some fire stokers here, as well. Especially that core group making up the predictable vocal minority. 

 

We have some 'Bram Stokers' here, as well. Real pains in the neck...

 

9 minutes ago, dwight in philly said:

Totally agree.. get the feeling he thinks Buffalo is not worthy.. 

 

Ironic considering he's a fan of the Vikings who haven't been in a Super Bowl since the 1970s and sport the same 0-4 record in the big game as the Bills.