Freddie's Dead Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I listened to the interview. He lined up as he should then didn't make the adjustment that he should when the KC formation shifted. To date, Levi Wallace is still the only Buffalo Bill that stood up and took any accountability for 13 seconds. He can play on my team anytime. Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 13 hours ago, Nextmanup said: My GOD I HOPE SO We are the Marvin Lewis Bengals. How long do you want to continue the experiment? Dude come on. Marvin Lewis was 0-7 in the playoffs. Sean McDermott isn’t winless like Lewis was. 1 Quote
Gregg Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 I think McDermott is safe. The Bills have been a winning team for a while now. Yes, the playoff losses suck but overall McDermott has been successful for the most part. The Bills would have to become a ****show and I doubt this happens with this roster. But as we have seen with the Sabres this past decade Terry will fire the HC and GM if he feels a change is needed. Quote
ProcessTruster Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 No. They'll keep getting back in the hunt and one of these years the playoff breaks will go their way and the trophy will be theirs. That's pretty much the formula in the NFL now. Get a high playoff seed and be your best and get some breaks in each playoff game. Quote
BillyBilliams Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 Bills fans will say no, because they want continuity after 2 decades of failure. I’m going to say yes. If the team fails, especially if it’s the defense failing again, McDermott won’t have an excuse. Frazier was the fall guy in McD’s system. Now he’s running the D. If they ***** the bed under his watch again, I’d think he’s a good, but not great coach. He can change culture and make teams competitive, but can’t get teams to win rings. Quote
Bulldog Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 Every year is a make-or-break year for an NFL Head Coach. If your team implodes & goes something like 3-14 anyone would be likely to get fired or "forced" to retire. if you have enough stature & reputation in the league the quiet part would never be said out loud ... but you would be removed from your job. Quote
SoCal Deek Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 In short….no. McD is here to stay until and unless he does something off the field that forces ownership to remove him. Which I highly doubt. Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 19 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Yea. As has been said before, Marty Schottenheimer is a better comparison. I'm not sure if that's a better comparison. McDermott would need to lose his next 8 playoff games in a row to match Marty's playoff winning percentage. Marty went to the playoffs 18 times and only won 5 games. 1 Quote
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 I'm not big on McDermott, but SB or bust is too high of a bar. I'd be bitterly disappointed with another early playoff exit, but there's multiple elite teams every year that don't win the SB. What I think should put him on the hot seat / get him fired: 1) End the regular season with a losing record and miss the playoffs entirely 2) Another terrible defensive performance in the playoffs (4th year in a row and can't blame it on Frazier this time) 3) Another coaching blunder in the playoffs ala 13 seconds 1 1 Quote
nucci Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 Unless this team completely falls apart I don't see Pegula firing the GM or HC Quote
corta765 Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 It will take more the one non playoff year for McD to be canned. Pegula has seen under McD the team go from nothing to yearly contender that wins a lot and is a major national brand right now. No way he is touching that unless there is years worth of regression. Now for me I would not say this is a make it or break it year, but if he fails to breakthrough again or worse does miss the playoffs I think 25' for me would be make it or break it at that point. Josh still has a lot of prime years left and if after 25 the result is the same you make the move finally so you can get a different voice and leader while you still have Josh at some good years. Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 38 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: More so in the vein of being a really good regular season coach and then getting outclassed come playoff time…. Dungy is also an apt comparison. I think Dungy and Sean Payton would be a good comparison...minus the Super Bowl of course. Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 Why is this fanbase so into firing people? Playoffs, no playoffs, let's fire someone! 1 Quote
Fleezoid Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 I think if a star player didn't show up for a mandatory camp, that would show that something is amiss. Then he'd be on the hot seat. Wait, what? Quote
Gregg Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 19 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Why is this fanbase so into firing people? Playoffs, no playoffs, let's fire someone! In the Bills case the expectations have been sky high these past few seasons. The playoff losses have not only been frustrating but it's the way they lost. 13 seconds is still unbelievable and the no-show vs the Bengals last year are the two games that tops the list. Quote
I'm Spartacus Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 I don't think he will be fired due to any of the scenarios. Terry Pegula doesn't seem like a hard nosed owner to fire McDermott. The guy ends up crying at most of his press conferences! If it was Jerry Jones, that would be another story. Pegula won't rock the boat any time soon. Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gregg said: In the Bills case the expectations have been sky high these past few seasons. The playoff losses have not only been frustrating but it's the way they lost. 13 seconds is still unbelievable and the no-show vs the Bengals last year are the two games that tops the list. You don't give up. You go back and try again. I'm not rebuilding this team. Edited June 14, 2023 by PromoTheRobot 1 Quote
Gregg Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 19 minutes ago, I'm Spartacus said: I don't think he will be fired due to any of the scenarios. Terry Pegula doesn't seem like a hard nosed owner to fire McDermott. The guy ends up crying at most of his press conferences! If it was Jerry Jones, that would be another story. Pegula won't rock the boat any time soon. He had no problem firing GM's/HC's of the Sabres when they were a ****show. Thankfully things are looking up for them now. Quote
HomeskillitMoorman Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 9 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: You don't give up. You go back and try again. I'm not rebuilding this team. Getting rid of McDermott doesn't mean we're rebuilding. There are so many examples of teams that fired a coach that couldn't get them over the top and hired someone new that got them there. Some coaches just don't have it in them to go all the way. McDermott is one of them. 1 1 Quote
I'm Spartacus Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, Gregg said: He had no problem firing GM's/HC's of the Sabres when they were a ****show. Thankfully things are looking up for them now. That was a little different though. The Sabres were the worst team in the NHL. 1 Quote
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