All-Pro DT Chris Jones not at Chiefs Mandatory Minicamp

[Buffalo_Stampede]

6 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

Jones missing 8 games could cost the Chiefs the #1 seed and when was the Mahomes won a NFL playoff game on the road? Oh wait he hasn't. 

In all fairness I don’t think he’s ever lost a road playoff game either.

[The Jokeman]

Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said:

In all fairness I don’t think he’s ever lost a road playoff game either.

If you count the Super Bowl against the Buccaneers he has. 

[HappyDays]

20 minutes ago, SCBills said:

A lot of good players like Humphrey and Smith on their OL will be needing new deals soon.. and likely won't be cheap. 

 

A guard and a center shouldn't enter the conversation when you're talking about a proven elite pass rusher. Other than Jones they have no one in their front 4 that offenses have to game plan around. I guess if they want to win all out shootouts that's one strategy but they tried that in 2018 and they fell short of the ultimate goal.

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Impossible to know plus that was last year and he played. 
 

At some point you have to rebuild Super Bowl rosters. NE traded Richard Seymour. It hurt definitely but they recovered. Trading Jones is the next step  for KC. They will recover.

Of course it’s impossible to “know”.  Jones wreaked havoc vs Cinci.  In a game decided by a late hit penalty, my money is on Cinci winning that game if Jones wasn’t playing.

 

He’s a true difference maker

[FilthyBeast]

Almost starting to wonder if this Jones situation is all part of the 'script' this year for Mahomes to further reach godlike status and win another SB without Jones playing all or most of the season.

 

Either way like I've said before, I'm certainly not upset about this situation and hope Jones sticks to his guns and drags this out well into the regular season.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

58 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Of course it’s impossible to “know”.  Jones wreaked havoc vs Cinci.  In a game decided by a late hit penalty, my money is on Cinci winning that game if Jones wasn’t playing.

 

He’s a true difference maker

Why are people telling me how great Chris Jones is? He’s a great player. I’ve acknowledged that. But if I were the Chiefs GM I’m trading the 29 year old great DT for multiple picks instead of paying him nearly $30 million a season for multiple years.

 

 Chiefs won 2 Super Bowls, he definitely helped. But they can reload and still win more without him. 
 

[Saxum]

2 hours ago, HappyDays said:

No communication. Interesting. I have no clue why the Chiefs are playing chicken with the most important player on their defense but I'll take it.

 

Sounds like Lemar Jackson.

[BillsShredder83]

3 hours ago, SCBills said:

 

Completely agree.  

 

It's why we went out and signed Von.  We were desperately searching for that elite level difference maker on Defense. 

 

Chris Jones has been that for KC.. and they 100% lose to the Bengals in the AFC CG without him.  As good as Mahomes/Kelce are, they can't do it alone, and watching that game made it abundantly clear that Chris Jones was the difference between winning and losing. 

 

I'd even argue that an elite DT is worth more than an elite EDGE.  Guys like Chris Jones and Aaron Donald completely destroy and/or occupy the middle of an OL, thus allowing everyone else to play off of them. 

 

 

1,000% agree.  Thing is there are so few elite enough to meet that standard. I'd add Vita Vea to the list. Dude is a game wrecker

[NewEra]

50 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Why are people telling me how great Chris Jones is? He’s a great player. I’ve acknowledged that. But if I were the Chiefs GM I’m trading the 29 year old great DT for multiple picks instead of paying him nearly $30 million a season for multiple years.

 

Chiefs won 2 Super Bowls, he definitely helped. But they can reload and still win more without him. 
 

I dunno, probably because they disagree with your assessment that it would be wise to trade him.  

I’d give him 90M over the next 3 years

 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

13 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I dunno, probably because they disagree with your assessment that it would be wise to trade him.  

I’d give him 90M over the next 3 years

 

$30 million! Geesh. As a Bills fan I hope they do.

[Doc]

He's worth it.  Stick to your guns, Chris!

[NewEra]

13 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

$30 million! Geesh. As a Bills fan I hope they do.

I hope they don’t 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

2 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I hope they don’t 

I see that. $30 million. 

[beebe]

long term, the bills will be better off if the chiefs sign the massive jones contract imo. next year, kc is going to dump MVS and then will have the cheapest WR group in the league. if justyn ross becomes the real deal - and it seems he might - and if rashee rice is the real deal - and it seems he might be - the kc receiving corps is going to be young/cheap for a very long time. they're about to keep seven WRs and probably will have at least one signed away. 

 

getting rid of jones will get them more picks (9 of 10 made the roster last year, 7 of 7 will make the roster this year), tons of cap flexibility etc.

Edited August 23, 2023 by beebe

[90sBills]

38 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I dunno, probably because they disagree with your assessment that it would be wise to trade him.  

I’d give him 90M over the next 3 years

 

I don’t think KC would do this. But I hope they do because it would cripple their cap for the next few years on a player that will most likely be on the decline. 

[NewEra]

16 minutes ago, 90sBills said:

I don’t think KC would do this. But I hope they do because it would cripple their cap for the next few years on a player that will most likely be on the decline. 

He was better than ever last season. He’s 29.  3 year contract and he’ll be 31.  If I were them I would keep Jones and let Creed go.  Every great team will be somewhat crippled while trying to stay on top.  
 

I think Chris Jones is elite and if he leaves, their D will take a huge dump. 

[90sBills]

10 minutes ago, NewEra said:

He was better than ever last season. He’s 29.  3 year contract and he’ll be 31.  If I were them I would keep Jones and let Creed go.  Every great team will be somewhat crippled while trying to stay on top.  
 

I think Chris Jones is elite and if he leaves, their D will take a huge dump. 

Oh I agree. He’s an elite player who’s a vital center piece to KC’s defense. He’s also turning 30 this year and DTs’ productions drop off drastically after 30. Creed and Trey Smith are due. Also their stud MLB and CB1.  They’ve drafted really well the last few years and it’s about time to pay those guys. Not extending CJ would allows them to keep a few.
 

However it turns out it’s great to see the champs have some turmoil! This can only help all the other AFC teams including the Bills!

[NewEra]

7 minutes ago, 90sBills said:

Oh I agree. He’s an elite player who’s a vital center piece to KC’s defense. He’s also turning 30 this year and DTs’ productions drop off drastically after 30. Creed and Trey Smith are due. Also their stud MLB and CB1.  They’ve drafted really well the last few years and it’s about time to pay those guys. Not extending CJ would allows them to keep a few.
 

However it turns out it’s great to see the champs have some turmoil! This can only help all the other AFC teams including the Bills!

He’s turning 30 next year.  I’ll take the elite pass rushing/run stopping DT over a pro bowl C and solid MLB every day of the week and 5 times on Sunday.  
 

Creed, Bolton and Sneed are all minor pieces when compared to the impact Jones makes.  

[HappyDays]

I'm really interested to see where this goes.

[Doc]

Just now, HappyDays said:

I'm really interested to see where this goes.

 

At this point he seems committed.