All-Pro DT Chris Jones not at Chiefs Mandatory Minicamp

[MikePJ76]

  On 9/3/2023 at 5:29 PM, HappyDays said:

I'm really interested to see where this goes.

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Hopefully it is the first flaw of many that finally brings down this organization.  

 

That is an entirely different defense without that guy.  

[JerseyBills]

  On 9/3/2023 at 5:30 PM, Doc said:

 

At this point he seems committed. 

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Lets go Lions.. Saw a stat - with Jones KC was like 5 or 6th in pressure.  Without him they're 28th. Plus Clark is gone..

[Doc]

  On 9/3/2023 at 5:33 PM, JerseyBills said:

Lets go Lions.. Saw a stat - with Jones KC was like 5 or 6th in pressure.  Without him they're 28th. Plus Clark is gone..

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Yeah, he changes their defense.  I'm curious to see how much the line moves when it's announced he's not playing.

 

And this is likely his last contract.  I can see him missing half the season and then becoming an UFA next year.

[Bangarang]

Stand your ground Chris! We support you!

[Warcodered]

  On 9/3/2023 at 5:30 PM, Doc said:

 

At this point he seems committed. 

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Having helped that city win two Super Bowls in recent years I don't see him feeling bad about holding out, barring some change I'd expect him to follow through with what he said he'd do.

[GunnerBill]

  On 9/3/2023 at 5:39 PM, Bangarang said:

Stand your ground Chris! We support you!

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The man deserves his money! Maybe Mahomes should strike in solidarity.

[Dr.Sack]

Crazy but I actually think this could be the thread that unravels the Chiefs 23 season. More points given up, means defense spends more time on field, offense less. Chiefs O will need to score even more points with less clock, putting strain on aging TE Kelce. Mahomes can make magic happen, but he’s not a God, just a magician. 

[Goin Breakdown]

  On 9/3/2023 at 5:39 PM, Bangarang said:

Stand your ground Chris! We support you!

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I mean he got to feed his family right? How is he supposed to do that under his current contract. KC is heartless. 

[RobbRiddick]

Stop bumping this, I keep thinking it means he's signed!

[GETTOTHE50]

He actually deserves to be the highest paid defensive player at this point 

[HappyDays]

This article from Over The Cap sheds some light on why the Chiefs and Chris Jones are so far apart:

 

https://overthecap.com/thoughts-on-the-chiefs-offer-to-chris-jones

 

Essentially teams always value contracts based on new money given out above the player's current contract, not on the total value of the new contract. Under that system of valuation, what Chris Jones is asking for exceeds the value that Aaron Donald got in his most recent contract. The Chiefs don't want to pay him more than Aaron Donald so the two sides are not close right now.

 

Either way he will have to report in week 8 to get credit for the final year of his contract so this won't completely tank their season, but if we're lucky they'll start off slower than anticipated.

 

Edited September 3, 2023 by HappyDays

[Doc]

  On 9/3/2023 at 5:44 PM, Warcodered said:

Having helped that city win two Super Bowls in recent years I don't see him feeling bad about holding out, barring some change I'd expect him to follow through with what he said he'd do.

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I don't either.  He'll get paid ~$10M by missing half the season and returning in time to accrue a season to get to UFA.  The ~$10M he loses will be more than made up for many times over in his next contract with another team.

[RobbRiddick]

  On 9/3/2023 at 6:09 PM, HappyDays said:

 

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[billsherd]

He is getting traded to Seahawks for a first round pick and safety.

[buffaloboyinATL]

  On 9/3/2023 at 6:20 PM, billsherd said:

He is getting traded to Seahawks for a first round pick and safety.

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Breaking News?

[DCofNC]

The Bills don’t have anyone of value under contract at DT next year, I’ll send the Chiefs our 1 and their choice of S for him, right now. 

[BuffaloBillyG]

  On 9/3/2023 at 5:49 PM, Dr.Sack said:

Crazy but I actually think this could be the thread that unravels the Chiefs 23 season. More points given up, means defense spends more time on field, offense less. Chiefs O will need to score even more points with less clock, putting strain on aging TE Kelce. Mahomes can make magic happen, but he’s not a God, just a magician. 

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Yes and no. I mean, it will hurt them if he sticks to his word and sits until week 8 if no agreement is made. But if he finally reports then he will be plenty fresh and rested for the playoff run and beyond.  8 weeks of bumps, bruises and exhaustion taken away and fresh as a daisy.

[Success]

I have this odd feeling Nick Wright's 20-0 prediction won't make it past week 1.

 

[benderbender]

It's sad that Diggs wants out of Buffalo so bad that it's making Chris Jones hold out. When will his Diva-dom ever end?!

[Dr.Sack]

  On 9/3/2023 at 6:50 PM, BuffaloBillyG said:

Yes and no. I mean, it will hurt them if he sticks to his word and sits until week 8 if no agreement is made. But if he finally reports then he will be plenty fresh and rested for the playoff run and beyond.  8 weeks of bumps, bruises and exhaustion taken away and fresh as a daisy.

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But for the weeks he is gone that does damage to the rest of the roster. See 22 Bills after Von went down.