Franco_92 Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, Einstein said: They beat us last year. In our house. Damn. Guess I'd trade our last 3 years for theirs 1 Quote
Big Blitz Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Nextmanup said: Oh come on man. it is not catastrophic. Diggs is like a child. He will be dealt with like a child and this will be fixed before the season starts. He's not the President of the USA....he catches footballs. As long as he shows up at kickoff, the rest is kind of meaningless. After tonight’s post, I’m leaning toward it’s over. They’ve had FIVE MONTHS. He met with McD and Beane. And all unfolded WORSE. If nothing was said today by anyone I’d feel better. Everyone saying something made it worse. F him. 1 Quote
Einstein Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 1 minute ago, arcane said: Damn. Guess I'd trade our last 3 years for theirs It would be a net zero trade, since we have accomplished the same jack squat as they have. 1 Quote
newcam2012 Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Tell that to Vonn and other free agents that came here partly bc of Diggs. This. Is. Catastrophic. The Bills can still win without a focused and happy Diggs. McD is running the D. That's an instant upgrade. Guys are coming back healthy and the acquisitions will have a positive impact. Josh is likely to have a better Oline and running game. Dorsey has a year under his belt. The roster is still very good. McD knows how to win under adversity. Everyone relax. Edited June 14, 2023 by newcam2012 Quote
The Wiz Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: he does deserve much credit. And while it may be true that the relationship between Diggs and Allen and the team is starting to fray, they simply can’t be rid of him this year. Blame Diggs, blame Beane, whatever. They have to work it out. 5 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: His contract says otherwise. Money will force them to make it work. 5 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Tell that to Vonn and other free agents that came here partly bc of Diggs. This. Is. Catastrophic. 4 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: McDermott or Diggs? 2 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Oh come on man. it is not catastrophic. Diggs is like a child. He will be dealt with like a child and this will be fixed before the season starts. He's not the President of the USA....he catches footballs. As long as he shows up at kickoff, the rest is kind of meaningless. 1 minute ago, newcam2012 said: The Bills are stuck with Diggs and Diggs is stuck with The Bills. Get your popcorn ready. It won't be a boring season. We fans will be entertained. Pay up the troll toll or you're not crossing the bridge. Sell diggs, never gonna happen. Rebuild, already working around him with other offensive weapons that they added. 1 1 1 1 Quote
JoPoy88 Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said: After tonight’s post, I’m leaning toward it’s over. They’ve had FIVE MONTHS. He met with McD and Beane. And all unfolded WORSE. If nothing was said today by anyone I’d feel better. Everyone saying something made it worse. F him. Jesus Christ man. Can you be any more alarmist? It’s not “over.” There’s no feasible fiscal way it could possibly be “over.” You are contributing nothing to this. There’s a lot of egos and individual wants in play but they are adults and professionals. They will figure it out. JUNE 13. 1 1 1 1 Quote
newcam2012 Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 1 minute ago, JoPoy88 said: Jesus Christ man. Can you be any more alarmist? It’s not “over.” There’s no feasible fiscal way it could possibly be “over.” You are contributing nothing to this. There’s a lot of egos and individual wants in play but they are adults and professionals. They will figure it out. JUNE 13. That's pretty harsh. Let the person vent. 1 1 Quote
gobills404 Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 (edited) Here’s what I’ve gathered from this thread… People who we can blame for Diggs being absent: Dorsey McDermott Beane Allen Frazier (Really?) People who are not to blame: Diggs Edited June 14, 2023 by gobills404 1 3 1 Quote
JoPoy88 Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 Just now, newcam2012 said: That's pretty harsh. Let the person vent. Let him or her scream into their pillow then. It’s ridiculous. 1 1 Quote
HurlyBurly51 Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, The Wiz said: Pay up the troll toll or you're not crossing the bridge. 1 Quote
Airseven Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 8 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Tell that to Vonn and other free agents that came here partly bc of Diggs. This. Is. Catastrophic. Who cares about Miller? He’s a waste of money and will be cut after the 2024 season. Beane gave it a good run - he too deserves credit - but we’re experiencing the fall. 2 1 1 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 16 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: he does deserve much credit. And while it may be true that the relationship between Diggs and Allen and the team is starting to fray, they simply can’t be rid of him this year. Blame Diggs, blame Beane, whatever. They have to work it out. We already don't have a #2WR. All we need now is Diggs to become an issue. God I wish we could've landed Flowers somehow? Quote
JoPoy88 Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, gobills404 said: Here’s what I’ve gathered from this thread People who are to blame for Diggs being absent: Dorsey McDermott Beane Allen People who are not to blame: Diggs Diggs handled it the wrong way. pretty much no one is saying otherwise. Until we know what exactly his gripes are, pretty hard to figure if there is any other blame to go around. 2 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: We already don't have a #2WR. All we need now is Diggs to become an issue. God I wish we could've landed Flowers somehow? I’m a BC alum I would’ve loved that. Damn that WR run in the draft. Quote
The Wiz Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: We already don't have a #2WR. All we need now is Diggs to become an issue. God I wish we could've landed Flowers somehow? Would not having a #1 WR really be that bad? Honestly asking. Having a few 2/3 WRs can work apparently. Edited June 14, 2023 by The Wiz Quote
JoPoy88 Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Wiz said: Would not having a #1 WR really be that bad? Honestly asking. Having a few 2/3 WRs can work apparently. if you have a Kelce? Nah it’s not that bad. 1 2 Quote
Process Posted June 14, 2023 Author Posted June 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, The Wiz said: Would not having a #1 WR really be that bad? Honestly asking. Having a few 2/3 WRs can work apparently. Having a few 2/3 WRs....and one of the best TEs of all time, one of the best offensive head coaches of all time, and one of the best o lines in the NFL. 1 1 Quote
The Wiz Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 Just now, JoPoy88 said: if you have a Kelce? Nah it’s not that bad. And I think that's the hope for the future with Kincaid (at least within the organization). I don't expect it to happen overnight but we actually do have a good TE already and the potential of another. That's what I feel like this is all about. A shift toward the early New England years with two TE's that can win and have receivers that just do enough. Maybe that's the reason why Diggs is upset. 1 Quote
JoPoy88 Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 1 minute ago, The Wiz said: And I think that's the hope for the future with Kincaid (at least within the organization). I don't expect it to happen overnight but we actually do have a good TE already and the potential of another. That's what I feel like this is all about. A shift toward the early New England years with two TE's that can win and have receivers that just do enough. Maybe that's the reason why Diggs is upset. Goddamn if Kincaid turns into something even approaching Kelce I’d be ecstatic. 2 1 Quote
ngbills Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, Process said: Having a few 2/3 WRs....and one of the best TEs of all time, one of the best offensive head coaches of all time, and one of the best o lines in the NFL. Add in that juju was a 1 in Pitt and MVS is good for a 3. Quote
JoPoy88 Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 1 minute ago, ngbills said: Add in that juju was a 1 in Pitt and MVS is good for a 3. juju was a 2 forced to play as a 1 once AB left and didn’t do so good. Granted Ben was approaching corpse status at that point but I think it’s an important distinction. 1 Quote
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