Diggs NOT at mandatory minicamp, McDermott "very concerned" DAY 2 UPDATE: He's back

[JoPoy88]

2 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

I suspect that was probably brief and in passing, not 16 hours in a room hashing things out 

Yeah pretty sure they were doing other things besides playing therapist all day.

[NoSaint]

8 minutes ago, extrahammer said:

I think this is all: the Bills gave Diggs a lot of space, now he's back and they're just hashing out frustrations he has, which I believe are rightfully so. I'm curious how the next 24 hours go. And I remind myself make up sex is the best sex. 🏆🏆🏆

 

If Diggs wanted out, he wouldn't have waited this long and he wouldn't have made himself present in the building. To me, the fact he did make himself shows they just need to simply address some things and get on the same page, which they appear to be working on. I'm fine with giving him some of that autonomy, I really am, because I do believe he's the best WR in the league. Last year I kept repeating that and everyone kept coming after me with replies about Cooper Kupp even though Kupp was putting up less than Gabe Davis numbers. I have Bickering Bills vibes with this and let's all look forward to the makeup sex. 😇 Have a beer, smoke some lettuce, and enjoy the weather. The Bills still won 13 games last year with all the bs. 

he literally can’t get out so the “if he wanted out” speculation from some is totally misreading the chess board.

[Blainorama5]

2 minutes ago, TAinLA said:

I got nothing, just wanted in this 81 page thread!

Welcome to the latest theories.....

[StHustle]

10 minutes ago, BrainwashedBillsFan said:

Isn’t the rumor that the night before the Bengals playoff game last year, Josh’s gf found out that Josh got some bartender pregnant and they had a huge fight and he got no sleep thats why he played bad. I’m guessing Diggs knew all about this and blames Josh for screwing up another year from getting to the big dance. Not that it was Josh’s fault the year prior obviously. Diggs is extremely competitive and knows his opportunities are dwindling as he gets up there in age. 

 

How does boycotting camp help tho? Does this improve our chances? He's already made his point before this with how he acted in the last game and all offseason. Now it's time to put in the work!

 

Only thing I can think of is that his talks with Beane and the coaches didn't go well and they didn't agree to a different approach. I think in this type of situation they should agree to do things a little different and at least meet him in the middle. He kinda has us by the balls and we can't play tough guy and act like he doesn't have as much power as the coaches in the grand scheme of things.

[Neo]

Recognizing there is no prophylactic for internet nincompoopery and the ubiquitous “so, you’re saying” something I’m clearly not, I’ll wade in.

 

I work for a firm.  In the NFL world, my job would be half GM, half head coach.  I assemble talent, devise strategy and coach execution.  Five roles report to me in multiple locations.  I have CPAs, CFPs, Attorneys and other licensed specialists.  We build teams around specific client circumstances.  I have egos and personalities on the team and we work in a very competitive, pressure packed, environment.   We’re not professional athletes.  Good for me.

 

Life’s taught me several lessons.

 

Stefon Diggs is a great talent.  He’s also a cancer.

 

Thirty year olds don’t change or grow up.  He’s a great singular talent in an industry that relies on teamwork.  He either doesn’t understand, or care, about the implications for others.  He’s calling someone a liar, publicly, in his smug, attention seeking, inter-webs game.

 

We went all in on a contract structure with an unreliable human being.  Sports contracts are risky.

 

He needs to go.

 

The cost of keeping him exceeds the cost of losing him.  I’ve  watched people try to manage cancers.  I’ve tried to manage cancers.  It doesn’t end well with any predictability.

 

 

[JoPoy88]

2 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

plot hole: the internet knew that rumor in November, so I doubt “she found out” I’m January 

Yeah that whole story kinda stinks. What was the other theory? She was just ready to get married and he wasn’t? That seems way more plausible.

[NoSaint]

Just now, StHustle said:

 

How does boycotting camp help tho? Does this improve our chances? He's already made his point before this with how he acted in the last game and all offseason. Now it's time to put in the work!

 

Only thing I can think of is that his talks with Beane and the coaches didn't go well and they didn't agree to a different approach. I think in this type of situation they should agree to do things a little different and at least meet him in the middle. He kinda has us by the balls and we can't play tough guy and act like he doesn't have as much power as the coaches in the grand scheme of things.

unless he’s retiring or sitting out games and ruining his own legacy, he has very little leverage 

[MJS]

Just now, Neo said:

Recognizing there is no prophylactic for internet nincompoopery and the ubiquitous “so, you’re saying” something I’m clearly not, I’ll wade in.

 

I work for a firm.  In the NFL world, my job would be half GM, half head coach.  I assemble talent, devise strategy and coach execution.  Five roles report to me in multiple locations.  I have CPAs, CFPs, Attorneys and other licensed specialists.  We build teams around specific client circumstances.  I have egos and personalities on the team and we work in a very competitive, pressure packed, environment.   We’re not professional athletes.  Good for me.

 

Life’s taught me several lessons.

 

Stefon Diggs is a great talent.  He’s also a cancer.

 

Thirty year olds don’t change or grow up.  He’s a great singular talent in an industry that relies on teamwork.  He either doesn’t understand, or care, about the implications for others.  He’s calling someone a liar, publicly, in his smug, attention seeking, inter-webs game.

 

We went all in on a contract structure with an unreliable human being.  Sports contracts are risky.

 

He needs to go.

 

The cost of keeping him exceeds the cost of losing him.  I’ve  watched people try to manage cancers.  I’ve tried to manage cancers.  It doesn’t end well with any predictability.

But do you attend high level business meetings?

[Zag20]

Can any mods check some next gen stats on this thread to see if it has the highest posts per hour in board history?

[BADOLBILZ]

1 hour ago, MikePJ76 said:

y0u are seri0usly disc0unting the situati0n the giants had at wr and tight end last year...

 

it was a c0mplete disaster and they c0ntinued t win and j0nes played really well.

 

 

 

 

The Giants weren't a good team last year.    They made the playoffs with a negative point differential in a weak conference.    Their QB threw a pathetic 15 TD's.

 

The "Daboll is great, we blew it letting him leave!" faction is a real grass-is-greener group of screwballs.  

 

 

[JoPoy88]

2 minutes ago, Neo said:

Recognizing there is no prophylactic for internet nincompoopery and the ubiquitous “so, you’re saying” something I’m clearly not, I’ll wade in.

 

I work for a firm.  In the NFL world, my job would be half GM, half head coach.  I assemble talent, devise strategy and coach execution.  Five roles report to me in multiple locations.  I have CPAs, CFPs, Attorneys and other licensed specialists.  We build teams around specific client circumstances.  I have egos and personalities on the team and we work in a very competitive, pressure packed, environment.   We’re not professional athletes.  Good for me.

 

Life’s taught me several lessons.

 

Stefon Diggs is a great talent.  He’s also a cancer.

 

Thirty year olds don’t change or grow up.  He’s a great singular talent in an industry that relies on teamwork.  He either doesn’t understand, or care, about the implications for others.  He’s calling someone a liar, publicly, in his smug, attention seeking, inter-webs game.

 

We went all in on a contract structure with an unreliable human being.  Sports contracts are risky.

 

He needs to go.

 

The cost of keeping him exceeds the cost of losing him.  I’ve  watched people try to manage cancers.  I’ve tried to manage cancers.  It doesn’t end well with any predictability.

 

 

actually it would cost quite a bit to lose him now. Literally. 

[thenorthremembers]

Fantastic player but I never want to hear the guy called a leader again.  In times of trouble or failure, leaders dont look around and try to find people to blame, they look directly in the mirror and ask themselves what could I have done better.  And Stef hasnt been great in those losses.

 

As for the playoff performances.  Its not always the QB.  Its not always the OC.   In the three playoff losses he's had in Buffalo he has been targeted 27 times for 13 receptions for 119 yards and 0 touchdowns, with a 48% catch percentage.    

 

 

[NoSaint]

1 minute ago, JoPoy88 said:

Yeah that whole story kinda stinks. What was the other theory? She was just ready to get married and he wasn’t? That seems way more plausible.

All I know is it was used multiple times last season, and even if true that it happened, she didn’t find out 4 times. And it wasn’t news to us in April when it landed a bit harder without the other distractions 

[SectionC3]

10 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Yeah I felt strongly at the time that something was up with Allen that was leaving him distracted and unfocused.   I thoroughly remember being in that state in my early 20's and what it was about.   I really didn't see that coming with Allen.   She wouldn't have been my cup of tea in his situation but he sure seemed pretty settled in with his GF.    

 

If the rumors are even remotely true what was going on was even worse than I thought.    With all the life and death sh!t that happened in December and January it kinda' got lost in the shuffle.    

 

It very well could have something to do with this Diggs situation.   Diggs has a baby mama and unabashedly juggles multiple women at the same time and still is the same guy on the field every week.  So maybe he has lost some respect for JA considering how compromised Allen was over some female related drama.   I can see Diggs brooding over this with the like minds he probably surrounds himself with all offseason and just getting angrier over how badly Allen handled himself and questioning whether he deserves the say in the organization that he has while Diggs opinion isn't taken into account much as a WR.   That macho BS would track with Allen's language about the situation and McDermott's frustration about having to listen to Diggs telling him his rationale at length and not having some sort of resolution still. 

I can't speak to your piece of the story and whether what the unstated but fairly apparent details are true, but there is another part of what I'll call the global tale of woe that I have on good authority to be true.  None of the salacious stuff matters, except insofar as it could explain Diggs's sideline frustration with Allen during the Bengals playoff game and part of what seems to be the fizzure in their relationship.  

[John from Riverside]

5 minutes ago, Neo said:

Recognizing there is no prophylactic for internet nincompoopery and the ubiquitous “so, you’re saying” something I’m clearly not, I’ll wade in.

 

I work for a firm.  In the NFL world, my job would be half GM, half head coach.  I assemble talent, devise strategy and coach execution.  Five roles report to me in multiple locations.  I have CPAs, CFPs, Attorneys and other licensed specialists.  We build teams around specific client circumstances.  I have egos and personalities on the team and we work in a very competitive, pressure packed, environment.   We’re not professional athletes.  Good for me.

 

Life’s taught me several lessons.

 

Stefon Diggs is a great talent.  He’s also a cancer.

 

Thirty year olds don’t change or grow up.  He’s a great singular talent in an industry that relies on teamwork.  He either doesn’t understand, or care, about the implications for others.  He’s calling someone a liar, publicly, in his smug, attention seeking, inter-webs game.

 

We went all in on a contract structure with an unreliable human being.  Sports contracts are risky.

 

He needs to go.

 

The cost of keeping him exceeds the cost of losing him.  I’ve  watched people try to manage cancers.  I’ve tried to manage cancers.  It doesn’t end well with any predictability.

 

 

Not according to the salary cap, it doesn’t

[BillsFanForever19]

If 24/7 Sports and Social Media were a thing back in "The Bickering Bills" days - this would look like nothing in comparison.

[Not at the table Karlos]

5 minutes ago, Neo said:

Recognizing there is no prophylactic for internet nincompoopery and the ubiquitous “so, you’re saying” something I’m clearly not, I’ll wade in.

 

I work for a firm.  In the NFL world, my job would be half GM, half head coach.  I assemble talent, devise strategy and coach execution.  Five roles report to me in multiple locations.  I have CPAs, CFPs, Attorneys and other licensed specialists.  We build teams around specific client circumstances.  I have egos and personalities on the team and we work in a very competitive, pressure packed, environment.   We’re not professional athletes.  Good for me.

 

Life’s taught me several lessons.

 

Stefon Diggs is a great talent.  He’s also a cancer.

 

Thirty year olds don’t change or grow up.  He’s a great singular talent in an industry that relies on teamwork.  He either doesn’t understand, or care, about the implications for others.  He’s calling someone a liar, publicly, in his smug, attention seeking, inter-webs game.

 

We went all in on a contract structure with an unreliable human being.  Sports contracts are risky.

 

He needs to go.

 

The cost of keeping him exceeds the cost of losing him.  I’ve  watched people try to manage cancers.  I’ve tried to manage cancers.  It doesn’t end well with any predictability.

 

 

The cost to lose him is like 40 something million dollar cap hit.  It's cheaper to keep him. Who would you like to cut to get back under the cap if we get rid of him? 

[SectionC3]

12 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

plot hole: the internet knew that rumor in November, so I doubt “she found out” I’m January 

Finding out and expressing anger are different things.  

[The Wiz]

22 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:

Let’s pump the breaks. He’s not Antonio Brown.

His social media is though.

 

 

Edited June 14, 2023 by The Wiz

[astb41]

I’m trying catch up but there’s a lot of pages.

 

has anything changed or new happened since he was in buff the day before and/or morning of and then didn’t show up to practice?

 

just trying to find the news posts but there’s so much opinion posting haha