Diggs NOT at mandatory minicamp, McDermott "very concerned" DAY 2 UPDATE: He's back

[BillsFanForever19]

12 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

I have no idea if that is the disconnect, but I agree that it is absolutely unacceptable how Diggs acted after that playoff game.

 

And then to follow it up with deleting all the Bills stuff from social media.

And then skip OTA’s.

 

And then leave mandatory camp?

 

We are watching a downward spiral in real time.

 

Do you think it's also unacceptable how the Cincinnati game went? That even after it became clear what we were doing Offensively wasn't working, that the coaches and Josh refused to change anything and just let the trouncing continue and snowball?

 

I think looking at it in a vacuum and just saying Stefon was wrong and blaming it all on him is the wrong way of looking at it. He could have handled it better. But in my opinion, the team could have handled both what led up to it better and could be handling this better now.

Edited June 13, 2023 by BillsFanForever19

[ngbills]

Just now, PBF81 said:

 

Allen should have deferred the entire thing to McD who should be speaking on behalf of the team.  

 

This thing has turned into a major national soap opera and barring some unforeseeable simple explanation for which it would be a miracle if that were the case right now, this bodes terribly for the season, for McD, for Diggs, for Beane, pretty much everything.  If it doesn't get resolved soon then it will be just one more thing that the Bills have to try to live down.  

 

My question is why TF didn't they address this in the what, 5 months 'til now, rather than having it weigh-in on the first mandatory day of practice.  

 

 

Maybe Diggs has tried and McBeane and crew have blown him off. Told him we can deal with this stuff later, get some rest and enjoy some time away. We all need a recharge and some time away. Another indication to Stef that this team is soft and not all in. 

[drummernut74]

Silver lining to today ... for those of us old enough to remember ...

 

Everyone remember what happened "after" the Bickering Bills? ... 4 straight

[Dablitzkrieg]

1 hour ago, The Wiz said:

And Humperdinck is marrying princess buttercup in less than an hour.

As you wish

[GoBills808]

here is Allen talking to media re Diggs

 

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[SectionC3]

16 minutes ago, Tulsabillsfanz said:

Today’s Diggs news is just a confirmation of his entire offseason attitude. He’s been acting like a self-centered diva who has a me first attitude. He was throwing a fit on the sideline of the Cincinnati game.   He’s quietly and not so quietly continued to throw a fit ever since. Diggs hasn’t made positive comments on any new free agent signees or draft picks, he does make cryptic drama quotes, etc.  I think the only positive Bills related comments were about former Bill, Cole Beasley.  He retweeted McKenzie, Edmunds & Tyrod Taylor, but no current Bills.  
 

BTW, Vikings fans are laughing. They saw the same Diggs there that we’ve seen since January.  
 

 Josh Allen is again having to take the high road and clean up a PR mess Diggs created. It’s been happening since the playoffs.  Allen’s been a great friend and defender of Diggs. I’m hoping Diggs will eventually return the favor, but I’m not holding my breath. 

I keep coming back to the idea that there’s more to the story.  Going back to November, there’s a poster here who said something to the effect that Allen received some unwelcome news during the bye.  Then we get kind of an absent Allen against the Jets and Vikings, the Dorsey growing pains, and we end up sleepwalking through the post-Damar part of the season.  Then, of course, we have the flatline Cinci loss, the Diggs outburst, and the resultant rumors about certain goings on at the Allen homestead involving law enforcement.  
 

I can’t help but wonder if the Diggs sideline reaction against Cinci was a culmination of frustration with 13 seconds, Daboll leaving, Allen’s head in a different planet mid-season, and then the distraction before the Cinci game.   Maybe Diggs has a point about the need for focus. And maybe he’s right.  

Edited June 13, 2023 by SectionC3

[GoBills808]

1 minute ago, SectionC3 said:

I keep coming back to the idea that there’s more to the story.  Going back to November, there’s a poster here who said something to the effect that Allen received done unwelcome news during the bye.  Then we get kind of an absent Allen against the Jets and Vikings, and we end up sleepwalking through the post-Damar part of the season.  Then, of course, we have the flatline Cinci loss, the Diggs outburst, and the resultant rumors about certain goings on at the Allen homestead involving law enforcement.  
 

I can’t help but wonder if the Diggs sideline reaction against Cinci was a culmination of frustration with 13 seconds, Daboll leaving, Allen’s head in a different planet mid-season, and then the distraction before the Cinci game.   Maybe Diggs has a point about the need for focus. And maybe he’s right.  

nothing about what Diggs is doing suggests he's concerned w the team focusing is the issue tho

 

this is like the opposite of focus

[Malazan]

12 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

Then he gets the HC gig at NY and turns a perennial losing team into a winner and leads them to the playoffs. An incredible accomplishment. 

 

One day we'll get a coach that can turn around a perennial loser and can make the playoffs with them in his first year

[newcam2012]

13 minutes ago, major said:

This will be fun: Diggs in a “where’s Waldo” type of season

Just another "explanation" of why the Bills won't make a SB appearence.

 

Beane and McD had no idea their WR#1 would let them down. 

 

We all can enjoy the up coming season and realize the SB hopes are basically gone. 

 

There's always next year with McD and Beane. It wasn't their fault at all. Fair enough explanation for us fans. 

 

Agree or disagree? 

[Bimmer323i]

F Him….

[Ethan in Cleveland]

7 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

OK your post on this are just starting to get ***** bizarre
 

People want to talk to Josh Allen and not necessarily for the diggs thing. What is it gonna do call Josh Allen back from the press that would look even worse

People are laying all the blame on Diggs in this thread. I'm just saying that McD made matters worse.  Allen could have done the same thing I suppose and just said it's internal and only take questions about the practice. But he didn't.  McD sideswiped the questions.  RIght or wrong from a PR standpoint, I don't know.  Just felt like Allen was left out there to answer for himself, the coaching staff and the organization.  That's fair as he is a franchise QB but it's McD's job first and foremost.  

 

I'm usually critical of the Buffalo media, but kudos to them for asking follow-up questions to Josh.  They were probing but respectful of his relationship with Diggs.  Yes it is just OTA's but let's be honest its a big story.  It may not be in the end a big deal but it's a big story that was brewing ever since that sideline argument.  

[Dablitzkrieg]

28 minutes ago, Kmart128 said:

I feel so bad for Josh after watching that press conference... what kind of person put their friend and teammate in that position. Pretty selfish. Josh was just at mercy of media and seemed to handle it the best he could but the answers were so vague and caused a lot of confusion 

I get what you are trying to say.  But let me tell you something brother, I'd take a few 100K out of the bank and wipe my tears with those bills if I made that much money.  Josh is a big boy and will be fine.

[bigduke6]

5 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

 

Gotta be coaching, imo.

 

I think he's still upset that Dorsey & McD refused to get him the ball when the team needed a spark the most. Feels like he's sending a message of "If you dont think I'm that important to our success, look at what you have on the field without me". And again, this isnt about him getting touches as much as not being relied on or called upon when the team could use his contribution the most.

 

I'm just guessing but there really cant be much else.

could very well be this ^.   same thing happened in Minnesota.   he got tired of the offense and Kirk and wanted out.  now Josh is definitely not Cousins,  but theres something here clearly.  whether its personal between Diggs and Josh,  or its an offensive thing,  who knows.    need to get this figured out before the season starts.

 

McD and Beane are concerned.  so that tells me that they dont really know whats upsetting Diggs.   that tells me its a personal issue between Diggs and Josh,  that the two of them need to work out.   Coach and GM cant do much about that.

Edited June 13, 2023 by bigduke6

[newcam2012]

12 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

You can like Brian Dabul, and still understand the fact that he has not yet done enough in the NFL to warrant ***** canning our current staff and replace them with him. He took a team and got them to the playoffs. Congrats to him and he’s a good coach but our team has been doing that for years.

Also, falling short in the playoffs for years. 

[UKBillFan]

Just now, Ethan in Cleveland said:

People are laying all the blame on Diggs in this thread. I'm just saying that McD made matters worse.  Allen could have done the same thing I suppose and just said it's internal and only take questions about the practice. But he didn't.  McD sideswiped the questions.  RIght or wrong from a PR standpoint, I don't know.  Just felt like Allen was left out there to answer for himself, the coaching staff and the organization.  That's fair as he is a franchise QB but it's McD's job first and foremost.  

 

I'm usually critical of the Buffalo media, but kudos to them for asking follow-up questions to Josh.  They were probing but respectful of his relationship with Diggs.  Yes it is just OTA's but let's be honest its a big story.  It may not be in the end a big deal but it's a big story that was brewing ever since that sideline argument.  

 

And it was Diggs who put Josh in that position. Not McDermott. If he had turned up at mandatory's then the questions wouldn't have been asked.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

10 minutes ago, drummernut74 said:

Silver lining to today ... for those of us old enough to remember ...

 

Everyone remember what happened "after" the Bickering Bills? ... 4 straight

Does that mean we have to lose to the Browns this year before going back to the SuperBowl?  I don't think I could handle that again.  

[Tulsabillsfanz]

Diggs social media since the season ended has looked like he is a former Bill.  Maybe McD asked him if he is all in, & Diggs didn’t like it. If so, I’m with McD on this.  Diggs needs to take the focus off himself and put his focus back on the team.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

1 minute ago, newcam2012 said:

Also, falling short in the playoffs for years. 

And? We can’t hire Andy Reid. 

[Airseven]

12 minutes ago, NickelCity said:

It's only a soap opera for weirdos like us. This is a headline-only story for a couple days in June to most football fans. 

Fair. And answering questions from the media is part of the job. Why fans would feel bad for any of these players or coaches is bizarre. This is all just the nature of the biz.

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

2 minutes ago, Malazan said:

 

One day we'll get a coach that can turn around a perennial loser and can make the playoffs with them in his first year

 

 Yeah, I hear ya. We didn't to the playoffs for 17 years, while they have 2 Super Bowl wins in the last 15 years. Pretty equal situations if you ask me 😜.