TheyCallMeAndy Posted June 13, 2023 Posted June 13, 2023 Just now, finn said: Just for an intellectual exercise, nothing more, would it be plausible to trade Diggs and sign Hopkins, if Diggs went into full Diva mode? His contract makes it nearly impossible, they’ll eat a ton of dead cap. 1 Quote
EasternOHBillsFan Posted June 13, 2023 Posted June 13, 2023 Madden curse is in full swing now... I'm not going to overreact, but we better have f-----g answers soon or I am going to do a whole lot of overreacting later. W T F?!!!?!?!? Quote
Kornfed Posted June 13, 2023 Posted June 13, 2023 Sometimes, the greed and arrogance can make it tough to keep rooting for and following pro sports. This kinda crap is pathetic. 1 1 Quote
TheyCallMeAndy Posted June 13, 2023 Posted June 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Kornfed said: Sometimes, the greed and arrogance can make it tough to keep rooting for and following pro sports. This kinda crap is pathetic. Huh? Quote
Mango Posted June 13, 2023 Posted June 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: His contract makes it nearly impossible, they’ll eat a ton of dead cap. This! I assumed the org had checking in with Diggs before the restructure. They didn't. With the way they ended the season that feels like common sense, but I guess not. In a worst case scenario, Diggs could tank this roster if he forces himself out just by his cap number alone. Quote
Andrew Son Posted June 13, 2023 Posted June 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Mango said: This! I assumed the org had checking in with Diggs before the restructure. They didn't. With the way they ended the season that feels like common sense, but I guess not. In a worst case scenario, Diggs could tank this roster if he forces himself out just by his cap number alone. You can't restructure a contract without both parties being involved. 1 Quote
finn Posted June 13, 2023 Posted June 13, 2023 To make his point that losing is not acceptable, Diggs will miss mini-camp, training camp, and the regular season. Only then will the team learn how to win. 1 Quote
Kornfed Posted June 13, 2023 Posted June 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Huh? If I had to explain it, you wouldn't understand. Quote
Mango Posted June 13, 2023 Posted June 13, 2023 Just now, SWATeam said: You can't restructure a contract without both parties being involved. This isn't true, false. Most contracts are drawn up to include restructure. Teams can restructure a majority of players whenever they please. 1 Quote
Nephilim17 Posted June 13, 2023 Posted June 13, 2023 It's even published on the team's website: https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-wr-stefon-diggs-not-in-attendance-at-mandatory-minicamp-sean-mcdermott Not cool from a supposed captain. 1 Quote
Heitz Posted June 13, 2023 Posted June 13, 2023 13 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: Madden curse is in full swing now... I'm not going to overreact, but we better have f-----g answers soon or I am going to do a whole lot of overreacting later. W T F?!!!?!?!? Well at least we know who to put on ignore early... 1 Quote
TheyCallMeAndy Posted June 13, 2023 Posted June 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Kornfed said: If I had to explain it, you wouldn't understand. Ah, assuming things without actually knowing anything must be your gimmick? 7 minutes ago, Mango said: This isn't true, false. Most contracts are drawn up to include restructure. Teams can restructure a majority of players whenever they please. I thought I’ve also heard this. I remember one of the podcasts saying Diggs restructure may not actually mean everything is fine. Things may not actually be fine. 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted June 13, 2023 Posted June 13, 2023 18 minutes ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said: Based on the reports that Diggs is not at mandatory minicamp, this may not age well. What happen to the reports that he was at Mini-Camp from this morning? Yes my post was based on the concept he was there, which is what I got alerts on my phone about. So are those reports wrong or the ones that he isn't there wrong? I hate information in today's society, nothing is ever accurate 21 minutes ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said: Based on the reports that Diggs is not at mandatory minicamp, this may not age well. Alright I deleted it...like I said, my original comment was based on the early reports he was there, which must have been false. If he isn't there for mandatory camp, then its a valid concern and story. 1 Quote
machine gun kelly Posted June 13, 2023 Posted June 13, 2023 26 minutes ago, finn said: Just for an intellectual exercise, nothing more, would it be plausible to trade Diggs and sign Hopkins, if Diggs went into full Diva mode? No. $40 mil cap hit for Diggs. He’s going nowhere. Quote
plenzmd1 Posted June 13, 2023 Posted June 13, 2023 11 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Ah, assuming things without actually knowing anything must be your gimmick? I thought I’ve also heard this. I remember one of the podcasts saying Diggs restructure may not actually mean everything is fine. Things may not actually be fine. So, i think converting salary into a bonus is at team's discretion, they can do it any time they like. The only net effect is getting paid early and making it guaranteed money..all good for the player. Reducing salary, increasing term etc..a real restructure, still needs to be agreed upon by both parties. 1 Quote
TheyCallMeAndy Posted June 13, 2023 Posted June 13, 2023 1 minute ago, plenzmd1 said: So, i think converting salary into a bonus is at team's discretion, they can do it any time they like. The only net effect is getting paid early and making it guaranteed money..all good for the player. Reducing salary, increasing term etc..a real restructure, still needs to be agreed upon by both parties. Technically couldn’t 2 teams come to an agreement? Bills could get a 3rd but the other team takes on the dead cap? Quote
plenzmd1 Posted June 13, 2023 Posted June 13, 2023 1 minute ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Technically couldn’t 2 teams come to an agreement? Bills could get a 3rd but the other team takes on the dead cap? My understaning, and it could be wrong is Bills paid that money, it goes on their cap no matter what. Now, I think Bills could retain some of his salary, but that does not give cap relief for sunk costs in bonuses Quote
Not at the table Karlos Posted June 13, 2023 Posted June 13, 2023 28 minutes ago, SWATeam said: You can't restructure a contract without both parties being involved. Yes you can. We just restructured Diggs contract without him being involved Quote
plenzmd1 Posted June 13, 2023 Posted June 13, 2023 BTWCarucci and Begnini reported he was at OBD for medical testing yesterday, not there today. McD very concerned...he pissed at somone Quote
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