BillsVet Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 46 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: He's not wrong If you don't like hearing about it tho it's easy to avoid him 2013 Seahawks are the last team with a defense-first HC who won a SB. Cue the poster calling Belichick a defensive HC to counter the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 I don't necessarily blame him for not knowing (or caring) that we signed better depth and brought in McGovern. Those moves could help, but it certainly doesn't move the needle for national pundits and their narratives. That said.. He knows we drafted Kincaid, he brings it up all the time. I don't understand how he refuses to mention that we drafted, in many people's minds, the best pure Guard in the Draft. There's only 5 OL positions, so that's 20% of the OL right there. It's a big deal. I'm not exactly sure what else he thinks we should've done - aside from apparently signing Orlando Brown or Jawaan Taylor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 FA additions at OL/WR are depth/backup level talent. Harris can be a decent rotational back if healthy. It’s certainly possible Kincaid and Torrence contribute this year, but relying on them is risky particularly the TE. With the Bills continuing to spend on defense and McDermott as HC, it’s not all that provocative to suggest Allen isn’t being maximized. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted June 12, 2023 Author Share Posted June 12, 2023 Actually his comments today came on his "right or wrong" segment. Apparently he feels he was right regarding his comments last week about the Bills defensive minded stubbornness. To me, he hasn't done his homework as to what Beane has done for the offense this off season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 34 minutes ago, Gary Marangi said: He also said Rodgers is going to have a MVP type year Because the Jets have an offensive-minded HC, right? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, I'm Spartacus said: Actually his comments today came on his "right or wrong" segment. Apparently he feels he was right regarding his comments last week about the Bills defensive minded stubbornness. To me, he hasn't done his homework as to what Beane has done for the offense this off season. Cause from a national perspective the guys they added aren't sexy or big names Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 18 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Of course, you're correct that one can avoid Cowherd and other people one doesn't like hearing from, but it also seems entirely reasonable to listen to different viewpoints, including those one may disagree with. As far as "not wrong", I grade him "mixed". Cowherd may or may not be wrong in his dislike of defensive minded head coaches. Sirianni actually got his start as a DB coach. Mike Tomlin was a WR, but came up the coaching ranks as a defensive coach. Youngest HC to win a Superbowl in 2010. Harbaugh ST coordinator and DB coach before becoming Ravens HC and winning the 2012 Superbowl. Offensive head coaches are very "trendy" right now, but I think a quality coach is a quality coach. He's not wrong, obviously it's factual, that the Bills are the #2 spending team in the NFL on D, though given that it's not even training camp yet, it remains to be seen how things shake out on 53 man rosters across the league. But we're actually spending more of the cap (52.23%) on offense than on defense (51.85%) So pointing out the #2 spending team on defense, prior to training camp, seems like one of those "true but what does it mean?" facts. "Nothing to bolster the offensive side of the ball" is just plain wrong. 1st round pick, Kincaid, TE 2nd round pick, O'Cyrus Torrence, OG Our 2 biggest FA acquisitions were on offense - Connor McGovern, OG for $22.35M and Deonte Hardy for $9.5M. One can debate whether they're the RIGHT offensive acquisitions, but not whether the Bills in fact tried to bolster the offense. I think Kincaid doesn't fit his argument so he leaves it out, but personally I'm not relying on a rookie TE to come in and have a major impact in his first year. Torrence will likely compete for a job and that isn't nothing but imo calling guys like McGovern and Hardy 'bolstering' the offense is a stretch. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 (edited) BB did more dumpster diving on the offensive sideline of the ball during free agency, and drafted two players on offense who many expect to be big contributors, on a team whose HC doesn’t like to play rookies. So where is Cowherd wrong? Edited June 12, 2023 by LabattBlue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Colin Cow-turd?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianb386 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Meh, we win the Super Bowl and this all goes away. (For at least 1 offseason) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Cowerd just throws wild takes out there hoping he gets it right. That’s why he has a segment every week “what Colin got right and what Colin got wrong “. The way to shut him up is for the Bills to have a balanced offense and blow the Jets out. That would send a message to all Bills detractors. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak-O Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 1 hour ago, The Wiz said: I think it would be interested to know what everyone's opinion of McDermott would be if he was an offensive minded coach or if you just pretended he was. Would people still be happy with the results that he's had or would they expect more? People who want a complain will complain. We win the Super Bowl, they will whine about how we only won it once. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 41 minutes ago, CSBill said: Because the Jets have an offensive-minded HC, right? They have a former offensive head coach Nathaniel Hackett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 47 minutes ago, Airseven said: FA additions at OL/WR are depth/backup level talent. Harris can be a decent rotational back if healthy. It’s certainly possible Kincaid and Torrence contribute this year, but relying on them is risky particularly the TE. With the Bills continuing to spend on defense and McDermott as HC, it’s not all that provocative to suggest Allen isn’t being maximized. Did not have a lot of money to spend, but often to free agents would you have liked to of seen that we could’ve actually afforded Keep in mind, most of the people we brought are on minimum deals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 2 hours ago, I'm Spartacus said: Today, Cowherd is beating his drum again about his dislike of defensive minded coaches. He brought up the Bills again, saying they are the 2nd highest paying team on defense in the NFL. His take (again) is we did nothing to bolster the offensive side of the ball. I definitely think we did. Your thoughts? I bet he'd change his opinion if the Bills get a "reliable" option opposite Diggs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 45 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: I think Kincaid doesn't fit his argument so he leaves it out, but personally I'm not relying on a rookie TE to come in and have a major impact in his first year. Torrence will likely compete for a job and that isn't nothing but imo calling guys like McGovern and Hardy 'bolstering' the offense is a stretch. From everything I've been reading Kinciad will be used more like a WR than a TE. All speculation at this point, but the thinking is they won't ask too much of him from a blocking perspective. Put those two things together and think he could have a better year year than most rookie TE's typically do. I agree with Hardy being a stretch but do think McGovern will bolster the offense if for no other reason he's being looked at as replacing Stafford who was terrible. While he may not be all pro, still should see a big improvement overall on the line. Getting back to Hardy, while not great, still may be a big improvement over last year, once Crowder got hurt. He and Sheffield and Shakir not being a rookie should provide better depth than what we had by the 2nd half of last year Think to they have better complimentary depth at RB too. There wasn't enough distinctive difference between Singletary and Cook, and even Hines. Moss was supposed to be that bruiser, but never worked out. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Upgrade/depth at RT,LG,RG, TE,RB and WR This o looks drastically better on paper than they did entering last year 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: From everything I've been reading Kinciad will be used more like a WR than a TE. All speculation at this point, but the thinking is they won't ask too much of him from a blocking perspective. Put those two things together and think he could have a better year year than most rookie TE's typically do. I agree with Hardy being a stretch but do think McGovern will bolster the offense if for no other reason he's being looked at as replacing Stafford who was terrible. While he may not be all pro, still should see a big improvement overall on the line. Getting back to Hardy, while not great, still may be a big improvement over last year, once Crowder got hurt. He and Sheffield and Shakir not being a rookie should provide better depth than what we had by the 2nd half of last year Think to they have better complimentary depth at RB too. There wasn't enough distinctive difference between Singletary and Cook, and even Hines. Moss was supposed to be that bruiser, but never worked out. I tend to agree on RB, I like the Harris signing a lot even if it isn't a needle mover for someone who doesn't follow the Bills closely. Stylistically I think he offers a better north/south that will benefit play action more than Singletary and if they're a wash in pass pro I can see that paying dividends 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: This is what I wish they’d do… as opposed to giving money to guys like Floyd and brining back Poyer, give that money to Hopkins… I mean if your defense is going to get its ass kicked in the playoffs no matter who you sign, then what’s the difference? OK Eeyore. The Bills D will look different this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haslett_Stomp Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 45 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: They have a former offensive head coach Nathaniel Hackett. Hackett truly was offensive as a head coach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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