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30 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Yea I was being tongue in cheek


716, I know that.  I was kidding back with you.  DK2 is too early to tell.  Rookie TE’s usually don’t pan out to too much, but it is 2023.  Pitts had a big first year, but he wasn’t just a 1st, he was the ATL offense. and has more speed than DK2.

 

I think because he could morph into the slot option around 500-600 yards, but he’ll be sharing with the OG DK, and there is more from Cook on top of Diggs and Davis.

 

I’m just patient in waiting until we see it.  Remember last year when the McKenzie hype after Crowder went down went on steroids.

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12 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:


716, I know that.  I was kidding back with you.  DK2 is too early to tell.  Rookie TE’s usually don’t pan out to too much, but it is 2023.  Pitts had a big first year, but he wasn’t just a 1st, he was the ATL offense. and has more speed than DK2.

 

I think because he could morph into the slot option around 500-600 yards, but he’ll be sharing with the OG DK, and there is more from Cook on top of Diggs and Davis.

 

I’m just patient in waiting until we see it.  Remember last year when the McKenzie hype after Crowder went down went on steroids.

I never thought McKenzie would be the slot answer 

 

Kincaid may not go for 850 yards this season but his size , fluidity and speed should make him an early mismatch 

 

 56 catches 715 yards 6 TDs

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6 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

I never thought McKenzie would be the slot answer 

 

Kincaid may not go for 850 yards this season but his size , fluidity and speed should make him an early mismatch 

 

 56 catches 715 yards 6 TDs


716, I like you’re optimism, but consider 800-900 for Davis and based on last year with a bad ankle, another 1500 for Diggs as always, probably 400-500 for the OG DK, and don’t forget Cook is probably much more inserted in the passing game, so another 300 or so.

 

If you’re right brother, I’m more than happy.  I just think it’s a lot for a rookie TE.  Heck, Kittle had about 500 his rookie year, and Kelce had almost nothing his rookie year but year 2 800 or so yards.  Then again he’s also the GOAT of TE’s, so that’s like comparing Oliver to Aaron Donald.

 

Im sticking with 500-600, but hope you’re the correct one.

 

Posted
24 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:


716, I know that.  I was kidding back with you.  DK2 is too early to tell.  Rookie TE’s usually don’t pan out to too much, but it is 2023.  Pitts had a big first year, but he wasn’t just a 1st, he was the ATL offense. and has more speed than DK2.

 

I think because he could morph into the slot option around 500-600 yards, but he’ll be sharing with the OG DK, and there is more from Cook on top of Diggs and Davis.

 

I’m just patient in waiting until we see it.  Remember last year when the McKenzie hype after Crowder went down went on steroids.

 

59 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Yea I was being tongue in cheek

 

1 hour ago, machine gun kelly said:


Hey 716, stop aiming to shoot the dog.  
 

Don’t you think he’ll have a good year?

 

16 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

212 catches 

 

2648 yards

 

33 TDs

 

7 kickoff return TDs

 

4 rushing tds

 

125 yards passing 

 

3 passing TDs

 

 

Quit fooling around, you two.  That's how people get hurt.

 

 

 

 

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I think Kincaid's pass-catching stats may not be a great indicator of his impact this year.  Snaps may be his most important stat. 

 

Other than Diggs, it's been a long time since the Bills had a second receiver who might be a threat anywhere on the field, which could put pressure on the secondary and force them to hesitate.  The biggest beneficiaries of Kincaid's presence may be Diggs, Davis, and possibly Knox. 

 

If Kincaid averages 30+ snaps, then the schemes might be working. The Bills' offense might be cooking if it's more than 40-45. 

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Posted
18 hours ago, TOboy said:

50 catches 600 yards 5 Touchdowns 

 

Really though, who knows. The more the better. 


That seems like a fair prediction, rookie TE’s rarely have huge stats 

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19 hours ago, Dan in Owego said:

Want some thoughts on projection of numbers on our number one pick. I am bullish on him for some obvious reasons, and admittedly some homerish reasons as well. 

 

750 yards

8 touchdowns

Any one want to take an early June shot at this?

 

 

That would be an excellent outcome for Kincaid...........but that largely just replaces what Beasley was doing from the slot in 2021..........and it still leaves Davis as the second option.   Which is not good unless he improves dramatically at catching both contested and uncontested passes.

 

I'd say the over-under on Kincaid should be:

 

38 catches

420 yards

4 TD

 

With rookies,  how quickly they adapt to the league is always an unknown but the receivers don't tend to start producing until the second half of their rookie season.   And I am always a bit more concerned with injuries to rookies..........learning to stay healthy in the pro's is a skill that has to be developed, IMO.

 

Like I said with Gabe going into last year.........they need their second option to be an efficient receiver who can average 65-70 yards per game.

 

They can do it a different way and have a bunch of guys putting up 500+ yard seasons or split the WR2 like with Sanders/Gabe in 2021(though that still wasn't ideal production).   To expect to beat the teams with two WR1's at the top of their depth chart I think you at least want a defined, highly efficient, high producing #2 option.  

 

 

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5 minutes ago, TBBills Fan said:

9 catches 126 yards, 2 TDS

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

on opening mother ***** day

Thank your lucky stars your tried being a sneaky B

 

ill take it 

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2 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

I never thought McKenzie would be the slot answer 

 

Kincaid may not go for 850 yards this season but his size , fluidity and speed should make him an early mismatch 

 

 56 catches 715 yards 6 TDs

Isn't it odd the predictions that most are posting is about (give or take a little) what Lil' Dirty actually did and most wanted him gone?🤔

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1 minute ago, LyndonvilleBill said:

Isn't it odd the predictions that most are posting is about (give or take a little) what Lil' Dirty actually did and most wanted him gone?🤔

Listen I’m probably the most levelheaded guy on this board… I have strong opinions

 

But I understand how the game of football works being employed in it

 

McKenzie has value… He’s able to return kicks and punts … He can run a few routes well… You can hand him off the ball

 

He’s more of a football player than a wide receiver

 

But now that our roster is loaded compared to four years ago… His value is slightly diminished

 

Hines … Can return kicks and punts and take a couple of jet sweep a game

 

McKenzie lacked nuances as a technical route runner… He could run away from man coverage based on pure physicality… But could not find the soft spots in the zone

 

And that really hurt Allen’s confidence

 

McKenzie is a great team guy … but Allen needs more consistency which he didn’t bring do to his limitations 

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3 minutes ago, LyndonvilleBill said:

Isn't it odd the predictions that most are posting is about (give or take a little) what Lil' Dirty actually did and most wanted him gone?🤔

 

 

I suspect that the belief is that Kincaid will catch around 80% of the passes thrown to him and drop basically nothing.............because at worst, that's his rep.

 

Lil' Dummy dropped a ghastly 9% of the passes thrown his way in addition to his general stupidity and lack of range/catch radius and accountability etc..

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