DapperCam Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 It’s the off-season buddy. They need to get clicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 24 minutes ago, DapperCam said: It’s the off-season buddy. They need to get clicks. yes...The NFL is absolutely desperate for clicks in the off season lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 Click bait, and successful click bait at that…, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 33 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: (1) You have no idea what kind of Hall the Jets will get. He's young and might peak mid season or so. Based on your logic how is an aging Von going to do? (2) Pure conjecture on Rodgers and his WRs. One could say its a positive that Rodgers has a rapport with his WRs. Also, their WR core looks decent. (3) No Hackett fan here. A familiarity still could be a good thing though. (4) Not worth addressing. Meaningless gibberish. (5) Yes a very tough schedule and division. We are in agreement finally. Certainly, it's plausible the Jets go 7-10. The same can be said for them going 10-7. I mean, at this stage of the off season every thought is conjecture and guess work. You are correct in saying that. Works both ways as every "counter point" you make is conjecture as well. Just a difference of view. Nothing you have said here is anything other then meaningless gibberish until the pads come on and the season kicks off. Sure, they could go 7-10, 10-7, heck at this point in the off season we could say almost any team could fall in that category. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: This season’s schedule is setting up to be a grind. Fans need to be ready for a tough hard fought schedule. It’s very possible the Bills go 9-8 or 10-7 and sneak in as a wild card. BUT I think it’s their best roster and they can do a lot of damage once they get in. I think your trepidation about the schedule is reasonable but at the same time the Bills will be favored in every game other than KC and Cinn. If you think the Jets and Miami will be at the same talent level as the Bills, 9 and 8 or 10 and 7 is an easy prediction. I think they get 4 or5 wins out of the AFCE. Then you look at the NFC games. Can any reasonable football fan expect more than one loss against the likes of Dallas, Washington, NY, Tampa or Philadelphia? That gets the Bills 8 or 9 wins. Then you have Jax, Denver, LV, home games. Those games should be minimum 2 wins if not 3. That gives conservatively 10 wins for us. Then the question is how many wins in the Chiefs, Bengals and Charger games are possible. I say an objective observer would expect minimum 1 win. So if you give the Bills 4 AFCE wins, 4 NFC wins, 2 AFC home field wins and 1 road win out of 3 away AFC playoff teams games, 11 and 6 minimum is what you’re left with. Unless your a frustrated Bills hater and you think they take a step backward, 11 or 12 wins is a fair prognostication. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 28 minutes ago, Doc said: Predictions are like opinions... Except opinions can often be shaded after the fact to partly buttress the original contention. A bad prediction allows you to rub the prognosticator's nose in it. 😁 Too often we forget to revisit these predictions after the season ends. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 I mean, I get it that there’s a segment of Bills fans that are positive to an unrealistic degree, but 9-8 seems patently ridiculous … but as Dalton said in Roadhouse, “Opinions vary” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 Jets are going nowhere with that big Meathead of a HC. Can’t wait for Week 1! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 30 minutes ago, Eastport bills said: I think your trepidation about the schedule is reasonable but at the same time the Bills will be favored in every game other than KC and Cinn. If you think the Jets and Miami will be at the same talent level as the Bills, 9 and 8 or 10 and 7 is an easy prediction. I think they get 4 or5 wins out of the AFCE. Then you look at the NFC games. Can any reasonable football fan expect more than one loss against the likes of Dallas, Washington, NY, Tampa or Philadelphia? That gets the Bills 8 or 9 wins. Then you have Jax, Denver, LV, home games. Those games should be minimum 2 wins if not 3. That gives conservatively 10 wins for us. Then the question is how many wins in the Chiefs, Bengals and Charger games are possible. I say an objective observer would expect minimum 1 win. So if you give the Bills 4 AFCE wins, 4 NFC wins, 2 AFC home field wins and 1 road win out of 3 away AFC playoff teams games, 11 and 6 minimum is what you’re left with. Unless your a frustrated Bills hater and you think they take a step backward, 11 or 12 wins is a fair prognostication. The NFL is hugely unpredictable, but I like your analysis. It's a logical, straight-forward way to look at what's likely. Could the Bills go 9-8? Of course. Almost every season, some team that most fans projected to be a Super Bowl contender falls apart, like the Rams did last season. Happens all the time. But four or five or six other teams that also were picked to be contenders actually turn out to be contenders. The Bills have to be near the top of the list of any rational prognosticator. They were the favorite last season. Their roster was judged by many to be the best in the league. So, what's changed? Their QB is still in his prime, they have improved their receiving corps, they've made moves that should upgrade the offensive line, they have better running backs, they've added talent to the D line, they get Hyde, Poyer and White back, healthy, and their rookie corners have a year's experience. It's really hard to think that the Bills will be worse than last season. They should be better. Now, their schedule looks like a monster, but that's just unrealistic. The Chiefs, the Eagles, the Jets, the Dolphins, the Bengals, the Cowboys, the Jaguars, and the Chargers are not ALL going 12-5 better. By the end of the season, several of those teams WILL be 9-8 or worse. I mean, did the Jets roster actually get BETTER than the Bills? Does anyone really want Tua over Josh? Maybe the Bills will finish third in the division. It happens. But it's quite unlikely. They're too good, and they're too motivated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 3 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: This season’s schedule is setting up to be a grind. Fans need to be ready for a tough hard fought schedule. It’s very possible the Bills go 9-8 or 10-7 and sneak in as a wild card. BUT I think it’s their best roster and they can do a lot of damage once they get in. agreed. Plus, peaking at the right time is key. That’s what made 2021-22 so perfect. Played our best ball when it mattered. We hang on in that chiefs game and we win the SB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 53 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Click bait, and successful click bait at that…, Click bait may very well be the most overused term in this forum 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 49 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: I mean, at this stage of the off season every thought is conjecture and guess work. You are correct in saying that. Works both ways as every "counter point" you make is conjecture as well. Just a difference of view. Nothing you have said here is anything other then meaningless gibberish until the pads come on and the season kicks off. Sure, they could go 7-10, 10-7, heck at this point in the off season we could say almost any team could fall in that category. Don’t you feel good knowing newcam2012 agreed with you on #5? You must be proud. I mean it newcam2012, like the smartest poster. Ever. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 4 hours ago, BobbyC81 said: The NFL Network projected 2023 records for all NFL teams and they had the Bills at 9-8?! What are they smoking?! They have the Jets winning the AFC East with a 13-4 record. Jets are going 12-1 after they start 1-3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 People pretty much just remember the last thing they saw, and then you have the fact that building narratives is more compelling than being rational about small sample sizes like the NFL playoffs. After 2021 they remembered one of the greatest playoff games of all time and had the Bills ascending. After 2022 they remember us laying an egg so now we're supposedly overrated. None of that really matters. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 10 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: The NFL is hugely unpredictable, but I like your analysis. It's a logical, straight-forward way to look at what's likely. Could the Bills go 9-8? Of course. Almost every season, some team that most fans projected to be a Super Bowl contender falls apart, like the Rams did last season. Happens all the time. But four or five or six other teams that also were picked to be contenders actually turn out to be contenders. The Bills have to be near the top of the list of any rational prognosticator. They were the favorite last season. Their roster was judged by many to be the best in the league. So, what's changed? Their QB is still in his prime, they have improved their receiving corps, they've made moves that should upgrade the offensive line, they have better running backs, they've added talent to the D line, they get Hyde, Poyer and White back, healthy, and their rookie corners have a year's experience. It's really hard to think that the Bills will be worse than last season. They should be better. Now, their schedule looks like a monster, but that's just unrealistic. The Chiefs, the Eagles, the Jets, the Dolphins, the Bengals, the Cowboys, the Jaguars, and the Chargers are not ALL going 12-5 better. By the end of the season, several of those teams WILL be 9-8 or worse. I mean, did the Jets roster actually get BETTER than the Bills? Does anyone really want Tua over Josh? Maybe the Bills will finish third in the division. It happens. But it's quite unlikely. They're too good, and they're too motivated. Wow, great analysis. Objective, reasonable. The only thing that could bring us back to the pack is Dorsey’s inability to keep everyone involved and working towards a common goal. He showed a reliance on Josh being Superman and not taking what the defense is giving you last season. If the O-line is improved and we can incorporate a legit running attack with an improved receiving corp with Kincaid upgrading the slot, this team will be a load. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 I love this. Hopefully all that national media keeps this up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 Listen, you all don’t respect the loss of Edmunds enough. He is an all-pro and carried this team all season. We are trash without him 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 It’s almost like it’s still June and none of this matters. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 3 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: This season’s schedule is setting up to be a grind. Fans need to be ready for a tough hard fought schedule. It’s very possible the Bills go 9-8 or 10-7 and sneak in as a wild card. BUT I think it’s their best roster and they can do a lot of damage once they get in. I hear you - it does seem like a tough schedule. However, the Bills have won 37 games the past 3 seasons, only second to the Chiefs. The current roster, on paper, is better than those teams. They have a top 5 QB in the league. If they finish below 11 wins they had long term injuries at the wrong positions or inexplicably lacked focus and urgency. Tough competition doesn’t mean better competition. The Bills are better than most of the teams they will play outside of KC, Cincinnati and Philly; and I believe they are even with the regular season version of KC. The Bengals, at this point, are better. A healthy Tre, Hyde, Miller and Jones could easily change that equation though. That Philly game will be a mosh pit, but the Bills talent is equal to Philly if the additions on both lines show up. I’m so glad they play the Jets week one on national TV. A point needs to be made. That last payoff game left a bad taste in everybody’s mouth, but don’t overreact. The Bills are a serious threat for the Lombardi schedule be damned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, BobbyC81 said: The NFL Network projected 2023 records for all NFL teams and they had the Bills at 9-8?! What are they smoking?! They have the Jets winning the AFC East with a 13-4 record. Jess Root wrote this article on predictions. I know some what about him other than he is a long time Cardinals fan. His Job at NFL Network is normally just to cover the Cardinals. Has them winning 2 games. look at his last 30-50 twitter feeds. mostly all cardinals. Inquiry link to find him https://twitter.com/search?q=jess root&src=typed_query This is pure click bait https://cardswire.usatoday.com/lists/nfl-network-analyst-predicts-records-for-all-32-teams-in-2023/ he has Jacksonville just winning 9 games, He has the Bears going from a 3-14 team to a 12-5 team. This is 100% pure Click Bait folks. HE needs the clicks... This is the actual link https://cardswire.usatoday.com/lists/nfl-network-analyst-predicts-records-for-all-32-teams-in-2023/ Remember, this guy works for usa today but he reports for NFL Network Edited June 11, 2023 by PrimeTime101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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