BobbyC81 Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 The NFL Network projected 2023 records for all NFL teams and they had the Bills at 9-8?! What are they smoking?! They have the Jets winning the AFC East with a 13-4 record. 1 1 1 20 Quote
freddyjj Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 Love your avatar. As a kid in the 70s we all practiced tapping our toes on the sideline like #81 Bobby Chandler. Before it was labeled Toe Drag Swag. As for the NFL Network prediction, remember where they are based and the fact they employ many Long Island parents' cellar dwellers who love Gang Green. I say 12-5 for Bills this year. 4 Quote
Doc Brown Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 It's just one guy named Adam Rank. He's harmless. Last year he had the Broncos going 12-5 and the Chiefs missing the playoffs. He bought that narrative so why not buy the narrative that the Jets are the new Broncos and the Bills are the new Chiefs this year. 9 1 3 2 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 This season’s schedule is setting up to be a grind. Fans need to be ready for a tough hard fought schedule. It’s very possible the Bills go 9-8 or 10-7 and sneak in as a wild card. BUT I think it’s their best roster and they can do a lot of damage once they get in. 4 7 Quote
Chicken Boo Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 As long as they make the playoffs, I couldn't care less what the record is. As stated above, it's a very tough schedule on paper. 6 1 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: As long as they make the playoffs, I couldn't care less what the record is. As stated above, it's a very tough schedule on paper. Should also add I think the AFC East divisional champ only wins 10 games next year. Maybe 11. Quote
BillsfaninChicago Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 Unless Aaron Rodgers is allowed to play with a time machine that is not happening. 2 4 1 1 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 1 hour ago, BobbyC81 said: The NFL Network projected 2023 records for all NFL teams and they had the Bills at 9-8?! What are they smoking?! They have the Jets winning the AFC East with a 13-4 record. Love it! I hope the Jets keep getting fluffed up. The high expectations will set the up for a lot of turmoil when they start 3-5. I have the Jets completely imploding this year. 1 1 Quote
newcam2012 Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 15 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: As long as they make the playoffs, I couldn't care less what the record is. As stated above, it's a very tough schedule on paper. I get what you are saying. Making the playoffs is only half the battle. The Bills have made the playoffs for five straight years. The Bills have an experienced franchise QB. Beane made a huge win now move with Von. Making the playoffs just doesn't seem to cut it for this fan. The "bar" is much higher than that for me. 1 minute ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Love it! I hope the Jets keep getting fluffed up. The high expectations will set the up for a lot of turmoil when they start 3-5. I have the Jets completely imploding this year. Why? I don't get that logic. The Jets are definitely a playoff contender. Their defense is really solid. They have weapons on offense is Rodgers is a huge upgrade. It's likely he doesn't have to be great in order for the Jets to win. 4 2 1 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: I get what you are saying. Making the playoffs is only half the battle. The Bills have made the playoffs for five straight years. The Bills have an experienced franchise QB. Beane made a huge win now move with Von. Making the playoffs just doesn't seem to cut it for this fan. The "bar" is much higher than that for me. Why? I don't get that logic. The Jets are definitely a playoff contender. Their defense is really solid. They have weapons on offense is Rodgers is a huge upgrade. It's likely he doesn't have to be great in order for the Jets to win. Here's the logic. 1. While last year the Jets had horrible QB play their OL was just as big of a problem. I'm not even going to speculate if Rodgers downhill spiral continues this year. However getting him does nothing to help that OL that they largely ignored. They also did next to nothing to address TE and Hall will be back...but I don't think he'll be what he was this year. Next year he should be back to normal. 2. They brought in too many of Rodgers buddies. He showed last year almost a stubborn unwillingness to use his rookie WRs until way late in the season. He very well may be looking Lazard and Cobb's way on crucial plays rather than Wilson. And they got rid of Moore who is better than what they brought in. 3. Nate. Freaking. Hackett. This is going to be an issue. I absolutely LOVE when the media brings up that he was the OC in GB for both Rodgers recent MVP seasons. He wasn't calling the plays. We have seen for years what happens when Hackett is a play caller. 4. Expectations are too high. They brought in a 40 year old QB that showed serious signs of decline...and Saleh has the balls to stand in front of the NY/NJ media and crow about how they are top Super Bowl (not playoff) contenders now. Last year he kept saying he's 'keeping receipts" against the media. Bet they are keeping them against them. 5. Their schedule. Take a peek. Their first 8 games are their toughest stretch. It's very plausible they start 1-3. 3-5 is very possible. Are they playoff contenders? Sure. But that's not what they are being hyped as. There are many other things that factor in but the bottom line is a 40 year old QB that already showed signs of decline last year playing behind that OL and being run by Nate Hackett is a recipe for 7-10 or 8-9. 7 Quote
nucci Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 you're listening to random people make predictions. Why? Quote
DCofNC Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 I don’t see the Jets going 13-4, but I could see the Bills at 9-8. I don’t think this team is as good as the record has made them look the last few years. It’s going to be all on Josh again. 1 3 1 2 2 Quote
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 I predict the world will end in 20 days. see, I can make a prediction too, doesn't mean it happens. 1 2 Quote
BigBuff423 Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 Given Saleh's rise in coaching acumen, I do believe the Jets will be a very good team, but I don't understand why the Bills are slated to be just above .500....I can see a dog fight among Miami, Jets and Bills resulting in a total lower win count, but I just don't think it results in mediocrity. Some of these things feel like talking heads who merely want to look like they're ahead of the curve with their projections and hedging for accolades later in the season. 1 1 Quote
Einstein Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 1 hour ago, BillsfaninChicago said: Unless Aaron Rodgers is allowed to play with a time machine that is not happening. I don’t understand the narrative some Bills fans have that Rodgers is washed up. He has literally won 2 of the last 3 MVP’s and played on a terrible team last year. If the Jets had even average QB play last season they would have been in the playoffs. 3 1 1 Quote
Chicken Boo Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 1 hour ago, newcam2012 said: I get what you are saying. Making the playoffs is only half the battle. The Bills have made the playoffs for five straight years. The Bills have an experienced franchise QB. Beane made a huge win now move with Von. Making the playoffs just doesn't seem to cut it for this fan. The "bar" is much higher than that for me. Don't get me wrong, it's Super Bowl or bust. I'm just saying, as long as they give themselves the opportunity through a playoff birth... 1 Quote
newcam2012 Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 54 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Here's the logic. 1. While last year the Jets had horrible QB play their OL was just as big of a problem. I'm not even going to speculate if Rodgers downhill spiral continues this year. However getting him does nothing to help that OL that they largely ignored. They also did next to nothing to address TE and Hall will be back...but I don't think he'll be what he was this year. Next year he should be back to normal. 2. They brought in too many of Rodgers buddies. He showed last year almost a stubborn unwillingness to use his rookie WRs until way late in the season. He very well may be looking Lazard and Cobb's way on crucial plays rather than Wilson. And they got rid of Moore who is better than what they brought in. 3. Nate. Freaking. Hackett. This is going to be an issue. I absolutely LOVE when the media brings up that he was the OC in GB for both Rodgers recent MVP seasons. He wasn't calling the plays. We have seen for years what happens when Hackett is a play caller. 4. Expectations are too high. They brought in a 40 year old QB that showed serious signs of decline...and Saleh has the balls to stand in front of the NY/NJ media and crow about how they are top Super Bowl (not playoff) contenders now. Last year he kept saying he's 'keeping receipts" against the media. Bet they are keeping them against them. 5. Their schedule. Take a peek. Their first 8 games are their toughest stretch. It's very plausible they start 1-3. 3-5 is very possible. Are they playoff contenders? Sure. But that's not what they are being hyped as. There are many other things that factor in but the bottom line is a 40 year old QB that already showed signs of decline last year playing behind that OL and being run by Nate Hackett is a recipe for 7-10 or 8-9. (1) You have no idea what kind of Hall the Jets will get. He's young and might peak mid season or so. Based on your logic how is an aging Von going to do? (2) Pure conjecture on Rodgers and his WRs. One could say its a positive that Rodgers has a rapport with his WRs. Also, their WR core looks decent. (3) No Hackett fan here. A familiarity still could be a good thing though. (4) Not worth addressing. Meaningless gibberish. (5) Yes a very tough schedule and division. We are in agreement finally. Certainly, it's plausible the Jets go 7-10. The same can be said for them going 10-7. 1 Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Doc Brown said: It's just one guy named Adam Rank. He's harmless. Last year he had the Broncos going 12-5 and the Chiefs missing the playoffs. He bought that narrative so why not buy the narrative that the Jets are the new Broncos and the Bills are the new Chiefs this year. Or he just has to have hot takes because it generates interest. 1 Quote
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