2023 Buffalo Bills from a Patriots fan perspective

[Fixxxer]

 

Interesting take on the state of our beloved team coming into the 2023 season, and this video was made before the Oliver extension and the signing of Leonard Floyd (check his reaction video if you want)

 

GO BILLS!!

[DJB]

For every real Pats fan opinion on the the Bills they get a comp pick 

 

Thankfully there is only about 5 of them

Edited June 10, 2023 by DJB

[BuffaloBillyG]

I don't need to make a whole video. Below is the 2023 New England Patriots From a Bills fan perspective:

[PBF81]

29 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I don't need to make a whole video. Below is the 2023 New England Patriots From a Bills fan perspective:

 

That's a thousand word essay right there.  

 

 

[Bobby Hooks]

Not bad. Kinda wish he did it after the Floyd signing. 

[NewEra]

16 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said:

Not bad. Kinda wish he did it after the Floyd signing. 

Same.  It’s really a massive addition.  I think it’s more impactful than hopkins would’ve been tbh. The guy is always healthy.  Is great Vs the pass AND the run (regardless of what some ignorants spew after reading college scouting reports), knows what it takes to win a SB, has had great playoff success and is extremely versatile for an edge player.  
 

He makes our pass rush potentially elite and allows us to take our time bringing Von back.  Our schedule is stacked with great QBs this season.  All the best of the best.  A guy like Floyd is a game changer for our roster.

[Success]

Big props to this guy.  I have gotten so tired of the mantra all over the internet - the Bills will take a step back, their window is closing, they're going to regress.

 

I've seen those comments SO many times. And they're lazy.  Every time I see a comment like that, I'm like, "are you paying attention?"

 

On paper, this is the best, most balanced & complete team of the JA era.  We've upgraded in so many areas - not least of which is finally setting up what could be an excellent run game. But we're also more physical, and just better overall.  

[PBF81]

9 minutes ago, Success said:

Big props to this guy.  I have gotten so tired of the mantra all over the internet - the Bills will take a step back, their window is closing, they're going to regress.

 

I've seen those comments SO many times. And they're lazy.  Every time I see a comment like that, I'm like, "are you paying attention?"

 

On paper, this is the best, most balanced & complete team of the JA era.  We've upgraded in so many areas - not least of which is finally setting up what could be an excellent run game. But we're also more physical, and just better overall.  

 

While quite possibly true, if we stall again early in the playoffs, it's high time to take a good hard look at coaching then.  

 

Many think that it's the coaching, not the talent, that's holding us back.  Enough with the excuses at that point.  

 

A lot of fans are tired of living off of the outdated "he got us back to the playoffs" mantra.  

 

 

Edited June 10, 2023 by PBF81

[Success]

20 minutes ago, PBF81 said:

 

While quite possibly true, if we stall again early in the playoffs, it's high time to take a good hard look at coaching then.  

 

Many think that it's the coaching, not the talent, that's holding us back.  Enough with the excuses at that point.  

 

A lot of fans are tired of living off of the outdated "he got us back to the playoffs" mantra.  

 

 

 

Everything this guy said about the Hamlin situation and its effect on the rest of the season was spot on.

 

And that's not an excuse.  It's something that actually happened.

 

[JerseyBills]

3 hours ago, NewEra said:

Same.  It’s really a massive addition.  I think it’s more impactful than hopkins would’ve been tbh. The guy is always healthy.  Is great Vs the pass AND the run (regardless of what some ignorants spew after reading college scouting reports), knows what it takes to win a SB, has had great playoff success and is extremely versatile for an edge player.  
 

He makes our pass rush potentially elite and allows us to take our time bringing Von back.  Our schedule is stacked with great QBs this season.  All the best of the best.  A guy like Floyd is a game changer for our roster.

Potentially elite? With Von in there , no reason they shouldn't be elite . Him Groot and Von could easily have 10+ sacks. Von was on pace for 15-16 alone. 

 

I mean Floyd got a 4 yr 64 mil extension,  35 guaranteed in 21 and really was only available because the cap. That's elite pass rush status or a 1B and he did most his damage last year when Donald went down. Dude plays ferocious ! Will have a huge impact and McD can get super creative on 3rd downs 

 

We upgraded OL,RB,WR,TE,DT,DE and S . Beanes best off season yet. 

Edited June 10, 2023 by JerseyBills

[benderbender]

1 hour ago, Success said:

Everything this guy said about the Hamlin situation and its effect on the rest of the season was spot on.

And that's not an excuse.  It's something that actually happened.

If we had lost every game since Hamlin's injury, then I'd agree. The delayed reaction mental exhaustion excuse was only good enough for Saffold and only convenient when he didn't feel like blocking. May he rest in retirement. 

[NewEra]

4 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

Potentially elite? With Von in there , no reason they shouldn't be elite . Him Groot and Von could easily have 10+ sacks. Von was on pace for 15-16 alone. 

 

I mean Floyd got a 4 yr 64 mil extension,  35 guaranteed in 21 and really was only available because the cap. That's elite pass rush status or a 1B and he did most his damage last year when Donald went down. Dude plays ferocious ! Will have a huge impact and McD can get super creative on 3rd downs 

 

We upgraded OL,RB,WR,TE,DT,DE and S . Beanes best off season yet. 

The way I see it, it’s potentially elite until we see it be elite.  I agree, it should be.  I expect it to be. 
 

Also agree that this is Beanes best offseason.  

[Doc Brown]

2 hours ago, PBF81 said:

 

While quite possibly true, if we stall again early in the playoffs, it's high time to take a good hard look at coaching then.  

 

Many think that it's the coaching, not the talent, that's holding us back.  Enough with the excuses at that point.  

 

A lot of fans are tired of living off of the outdated "he got us back to the playoffs" mantra.  

 

 

I give him more of a leash because he has won four playoff games in the last three seasons (aka when Josh Allen became Josh Allen).  He’s not like Marvin Lewis where he is 0-7 in the playoffs or something like that.  
 

He has to be embarrassed about the Bengals game though.  We were so outcoached when on defense that we made Joe Burrow look like he could walk on water. Just no imagination on defense.  It’s why Frazier was fired and I expect a much more creative defense against the elite qb’s with McDermott calling the plays.  If not, then I’d consider a change if I was Pegula. 

[newcam2012]

3 hours ago, Success said:

 

Everything this guy said about the Hamlin situation and its effect on the rest of the season was spot on.

 

And that's not an excuse.  It's something that actually happened.

 

I get that but Hamlin was also present for the Cinci game. He was alive and improving daily. The worst was behind him and the team. 

 

I think its safe to say Hamlin gave some motivating and inspirational words to the team. If anything, the team could have been extra motivated and more relaxed to play. 

3 hours ago, Success said:

 

Everything this guy said about the Hamlin situation and its effect on the rest of the season was spot on.

 

And that's not an excuse.  It's something that actually happened.

 

It is an excuse. None of this talked existed after the Miami playoff win or prior to the Cinci game. 

 

This narrative was created after the Bills got throttled. 

[NewEra]

5 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I get that but Hamlin was also present for the Cinci game. He was alive and improving daily. The worst was behind him and the team. 

 

I think its safe to say Hamlin gave some motivating and inspirational words to the team. If anything, the team could have been extra motivated and more relaxed to play. 

It is an excuse. None of this talked existed after the Miami playoff win or prior to the Cinci game. 

 

This narrative was created after the Bills got throttled. 

I think it’s safe to say that you have no clue what kind of an impact the Damar situation had on the Bills. 

[John from Riverside]

9 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I get that but Hamlin was also present for the Cinci game. He was alive and improving daily. The worst was behind him and the team. 

 

I think its safe to say Hamlin gave some motivating and inspirational words to the team. If anything, the team could have been extra motivated and more relaxed to play. 

It is an excuse. None of this talked existed after the Miami playoff win or prior to the Cinci game. 

 

This narrative was created after the Bills got throttled. 

The team was emotionally spent
 

They still might’ve lost anyway

[Success]

8 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I get that but Hamlin was also present for the Cinci game. He was alive and improving daily. The worst was behind him and the team. 

 

I think its safe to say Hamlin gave some motivating and inspirational words to the team. If anything, the team could have been extra motivated and more relaxed to play. 

It is an excuse. None of this talked existed after the Miami playoff win or prior to the Cinci game. 

 

This narrative was created after the Bills got throttled. 

 

It wasn't a "created narrative."  It was obvious in both the Miami and Cincy playoff games.  Everyone who watched the Bills dominate most of the season was like, "who is this team?"

 

It was no big mystery. They looked emotionally drained, because they were.  A popular teammate dying on the field, 2 blizzards w/ a relocation, a rash of injuries - to call all of that an excuse is to deny that football players are actually human beings, also.

 

[newcam2012]

56 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

I give him more of a leash because he has won four playoff games in the last three seasons (aka when Josh Allen became Josh Allen).  He’s not like Marvin Lewis where he is 0-7 in the playoffs or something like that.  
 

He has to be embarrassed about the Bengals game though.  We were so outcoached when on defense that we made Joe Burrow look like he could walk on water. Just no imagination on defense.  It’s why Frazier was fired and I expect a much more creative defense against the elite qb’s with McDermott calling the plays.  If not, then I’d consider a change if I was Pegula. 

He has won 4 playoff games but he's lost 5. That's a 44% playoff win rate. Not good. 

 

You can blame Fraizer but McD must equally or even more so get the blame. He is the head coach who he trusted Fraizer after multiple defensive playoffs performances.

 

He absolutely gave the KC game away in 13 seconds. Then they fired the special teams coach. 

 

The team was horrific on every level and facet of the game vs Cinci. What game plan? What adjustments? Etc.. The coach had to take blame for this! 

 

Let's not paint McD as this some sort of Godlike figure. Not saying You are but some here feel like he's untouchable or flawless. 

 

There is plenty to be critical about with regards to McD. I'm starting to believe he's a great team builder and regular season coach. Come playoff time it's a different story. The record backs this up. 

[PBF81]

1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

I give him more of a leash because he has won four playoff games in the last three seasons (aka when Josh Allen became Josh Allen).  He’s not like Marvin Lewis where he is 0-7 in the playoffs or something like that.  
 

He has to be embarrassed about the Bengals game though.  We were so outcoached when on defense that we made Joe Burrow look like he could walk on water. Just no imagination on defense.  It’s why Frazier was fired and I expect a much more creative defense against the elite qb’s with McDermott calling the plays.  If not, then I’d consider a change if I was Pegula. 

 

He's 3-2 in WC games, 1-2 in Divisional Round games, and 0-1 in the CCG.  That's 1-3 after the WC rounds, with Allen at QB.  The trend is also downward, the past two seasons we've beaten low-end playoff teams;  Skylar Thompson's Fins and Mac Jones and NE.  We're 0-2 in the D round the past two seasons and with a historically cataclysmic coaching failure as the sole cause for one of the two.  Fine, mulligan for last season, but the bar needs to be higher for this season.  

 

Let's see how it plays out, but hypothetically, say we barely win the division, beat some team in the WC round that otherwise has no real chance to advance much anyway, like any of our WC-round opponents to date, then lose to again in the divisional round, regardless of opponent and assuming not in a game whereby we play our absolute best (including coaching) but simply lose to a team that was on fire or better, then it should be strongly considered that McD has reached his apex with this team.  

 

Past performance is great, but we criticize all of the components of the team screaming that they need to be upgraded, except for coaching.  

 

We'll see how the season shakes out, but the Damar thing is over, and if it isn't, it's time to consider other options there if it continues to be the distraction implied by Success above.  

 

The time for excuse making on behalf of McD is over with this season.  He's got everything he needs, apparently, since the same people defend Beane to the hilt, so no more excuses.  If Dorsey falls short, that's on McD too since he's the one that chose the OJT candidate to be his OC.  And what, if Dorsey gets the can, what next, another OJT candidate that McD can control and won't be a threat to take his job?   At some point conflicts-of-interest need to be considered, both at head coach and GM.  The last thing this franchise needs is more high-risk decisions with increasing long-term risks.  

 

If we had any number of other coaches we'd have done better in the playoffs by now.  

 

 

Edited June 10, 2023 by PBF81

[newcam2012]

16 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I think it’s safe to say that you have no clue what kind of an impact the Damar situation had on the Bills. 

They looked pretty focused and motivated the week before when they played Miami. 

 

There was little or no talk about the negative Hamlin effect. In fact, there was plenty of motivating talk. Win one for Damar!

 

People talking about how Damar showing up at the game be great, awesome, and motivating. All that positivity disappeared after the Bills got throttled. The Hamlin negative effect became the narrative. 

 

Those are the facts!

Edited June 10, 2023 by newcam2012