The Frankish Reich Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, BillStime said: RFK = Kanye No one but the cult takes them seriously. Oops, I forgot about that other new right-wind "thought leader," Kanye. Seriously, all you new-style Republicans: who are your thought leaders now? Is there any serious person, or is it all crackpot celebrities? Is it Peter Thiel? Because we can have a good talk about that. Not the Koch brothers anymore; they're so 2012. 1 2
Tommy Callahan Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 1 hour ago, ChiGoose said: And what does it tell you? They are afraid. 1 1
BillStime Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 44 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Agreeing to the challenge is accepting RFK Jr.s claims as worthy of debate and gives the impression that there is a valid reason to believe them. Putting money up is simply a ploy to make it harder to do the sensible thing: deny this grifter a platform and the legitimacy he desires. It also makes the person making the reasonable decision into the bad guy. It’s clever, but wholly in bad faith. This is no different than @BillsFanNCtagging us in his posts. He wants us to credentialize and validate his argument by encouraging us to respond and debate. It is nothing more than a LAMP. 1 1
ChiGoose Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Chris farley said: They are afraid. Well that’s certainly a conclusion. A dumb one, but a conclusion nonetheless. 1
Doc Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, Chris farley said: They are afraid. They should be. He's polling about 20% support among Dems. 1 1
ChiGoose Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Doc said: Talk about a cop out. Ok, here’s a counterfactual for you: Let’s say there are some loony lefties like Occupy Democrats or the Krassenstein Brothers and they have been making the claim that conservatives love to eat babies. It’s obviously false, there’s no evidence of it, but they are exploiting a niche on the internet that will buy into the claim and give them views and money. So then they put up money and say it’ll go to charity if Donald Trump comes on their show and beats them in a debate about whether or not conservatives eat babies. Should he do it? Of course not! It would give them what they want (attention and legitimacy) while having about a 0% chance of changing the minds of the audience (if you already believe conservatives eat babies, nothing Donald Trump could say would change your mind). Don’t give these trolls, losers, and idiots the attention and legitimacy they so desperately crave. Edited June 18, 2023 by ChiGoose
Doc Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Ok, here’s a counterfactual for you: Let’s say there are some loony lefties like Occupy Democrats or the Krassenstein Brothers and they have been making the claim that conservatives love to eat babies. It’s obviously false, there’s no evidence of it, but they are exploiting a niche on the internet that will buy into the claim and give them views and money. So then they put up money and say it’ll go to charity if Donald Trump comes on their show and beats them in a debate about whether or not conservatives eat babies. Should he do it? Of course not! It would give them what they want (attention and legitimacy) while having about a 0% chance of changing the minds of the audience (if you already believe conservatives eat babies, nothing Donald Trump could say would change your mind). Don’t give these trolls, losers, and idiots the attention and legitimacy they so desperately crave. Sorry but RFK Jr. isn't someone you can just ignore, much as you'd like to. Again he's polling as high as 20% among Democrats. If anything, you'd be doing society a favor by calling-him-out on his wacky belief, even if it only changes 1 person's mind. And as for vaccines causimg autism, The Lancet was responsible for that. They're still around and respected (by some). 1
BillStime Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Doc said: Sorry but RFK Jr. isn't someone you can just ignore, much as you'd like to. Again he's polling as high as 20% among Democrats. If anything, you'd be doing society a favor by calling-him-out on his wacky belief, even if it only changes 1 person's mind. And as for vaccines causimg autism, The Lancet was responsible for that. They're still around and respected (by some). What are your thoughts on the red wave? Every pundit told us there would be a red wave. What happened to the red wave “Doc”? Meanwhile - RFK is a threat jfc these degenerates are desperate lol
Orlando Buffalo Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 1 hour ago, ChiGoose said: Agreeing to the challenge is accepting RFK Jr.s claims as worthy of debate and gives the impression that there is a valid reason to believe them. Putting money up is simply a ploy to make it harder to do the sensible thing: deny this grifter a platform and the legitimacy he desires. It also makes the person making the reasonable decision into the bad guy. It’s clever, but wholly in bad faith. The reason he got challenged in such an aggressive manner is he originally quoted some crap from Vice that was along the lines of the COVID vaccine makes you impervious to Covid. That is why he won't go on the show despite Joe offering the money, the statement he would have to defend is just as factually vapid as what he was attacking. I will repeat what I have said since since 2021 and thankfully have been vindicated, pushing healthy people under 40 to get the COVID vaccine is inappropriate and not beneficial. We know that under 40 and without at least two comorbidities means the chance of dying from COVID is basically zero and the vaccines don't last more than a few months. 1
ChiGoose Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Doc said: Sorry but RFK Jr. isn't someone you can just ignore, much as you'd like to. Again he's polling as high as 20% among Democrats. If anything, you'd be doing society a favor by calling-him-out on his wacky belief, even if it only changes 1 person's mind. And as for vaccines causimg autism, The Lancet was responsible for that. They're still around and respected (by some). 20% is probably the high watermark for him. It’s likely driven more by name recognition (Kennedy) and as a signal that people aren’t excited about Biden (which makes sense since most Dems didn’t want him to run again), than RFK Jr.’s actual views. His odds for unseating Biden in the primaries are about 0% and a year from now we’ll all likely have forgotten about him. Edited June 18, 2023 by ChiGoose
Orlando Buffalo Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 40 minutes ago, BillStime said: 🎯 Go Mark go Billsy bless your heart, you just put an ad up for Cubans new company and truly think it means he wants what is best for you. 1 1
Doc Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 Just now, ChiGoose said: 20% is probably the high watermark for him. It’s likely driven more by name recognition (Kennedy) and as a signal that people aren’t excited about Biden (which makes sense since most Dems didn’t want him to run again), than RFK Jr.’s actual views. His odds for unseating Biden in the primaries are about 0% and a year from now we’ll all likely have forgotten about him. Name recognition is important for any candidate. And 20% might be a high for him. But Joke can't ignore him forever.
Tenhigh Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 1 hour ago, ChiGoose said: Ok, here’s a counterfactual for you: Let’s say there are some loony lefties like Occupy Democrats or the Krassenstein Brothers and they have been making the claim that conservatives love to eat babies. It’s obviously false, there’s no evidence of it, but they are exploiting a niche on the internet that will buy into the claim and give them views and money. So then they put up money and say it’ll go to charity if Donald Trump comes on their show and beats them in a debate about whether or not conservatives eat babies. Should he do it? Of course not! It would give them what they want (attention and legitimacy) while having about a 0% chance of changing the minds of the audience (if you already believe conservatives eat babies, nothing Donald Trump could say would change your mind). Don’t give these trolls, losers, and idiots the attention and legitimacy they so desperately crave. This is a false equivalent. RFK Jr. Already has a platform, your man just chickened out. And this is coming from someone who supports vaccines. 4 hours ago, ChiGoose said: So if Ronald Reagan had a kid running in the GOP primary who believed that the Earth was flat and that Wifi caused cancer, but also said we should all live in peace with no wars, you’d view him as a legitimate anti-establishment candidate instead of a loon? I would trade wifi for world peace, wouldn't you?
BillStime Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 15 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: Billsy bless your heart, you just put an ad up for Cubans new company and truly think it means he wants what is best for you. Did you read his comments Buffalo Timmy?
ChiGoose Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, Doc said: But Joke can't ignore him forever. He can. He should. And he will. And it’ll make no difference on the Dem primary. 4 minutes ago, Tenhigh said: I would trade wifi for world peace, wouldn't you? Sure. But in that scenario, you’re not getting world peace, you’re getting appeasement for ruthless dictators. What happens when Putin and Xi realize that US will not push back on them for wanting to seize lands from other countries? Do you think it’ll be world peace? 1
Doc Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: He can. He should. And he will. And it’ll make no difference on the Dem primary. Of course he'll try. But he's not going away. One wacky belief doesn't negate everything else. And true, it likely will make no difference to the Dem primary. But the Election...
Orlando Buffalo Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, BillStime said: Did you read his comments Buffalo Timmy? Yes I read his ad, what is your point?
ChiGoose Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, Doc said: Of course he'll try. But he's not going away. One wacky belief doesn't negate everything else. And true, it likely will make no difference to the Dem primary. But the Election... He is going away and it’ll have no impact on the election. He’s a flash in the pan loonie who is being propped up by people who the Dems by and large despise. Once he gets more time in front of the general public, his popularity will decrease and he’ll be out of the picture once they start counting votes.
BillStime Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: Yes I read his ad, what is your point? Whatever you do - don’t get vaccinated and don’t go to the doctor. No more prescriptions for you. Just call up the Fear Factor host - he will prescribe you roaches and deer balls.
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