Gary Marangi Posted June 7, 2023 Posted June 7, 2023 11 hours ago, Sharky7337 said: I watch cowherd a lot. And while I liked his point on defensive spending, he mostly states obvious and mildly incorrect things ( he acts like we didn't make any OL moves). The only reason I watch him was cause he was early on the josh allen train. But besides that he's always pretty shallow national media spin type. I would rather have an offensive coach yes. But Tomlin is a he'll of a coach too. He predicted Allan would be a bust 1 Quote
Bill from NYC Posted June 7, 2023 Posted June 7, 2023 11 hours ago, LeGOATski said: Yeah, they have not been successful with the OL, but you can't say they haven't tried. It's much harder to find quality OLmen than it is quality DLmen, but I think they could've been more successful with the guys they've had. Idk if it's a problem with talent evaluation and development/coaching or just simply not having a consistent identity on that side of the ball. It's becoming more apparent that the old adage of "defense wins championships" is no longer true. With McDermott at the helm, the Bills will probably always have a good-enough defense and could afford to spend more on the offense. I can say that they haven't tried hard enough. McDermott drafts DTs, LBs, and DBs galore, and even trades up for them. You are correct. The days of the 86 Bears defense, or the old Raiders secondary are long gone. Players like Jack Tatum and George Atkinson would be arrested today, let alone fined. McDermott fails to recognize this, concentrates on defense, and fails to protect his great, if not generationally talented quarterback. It remains to be seen how long Mr. Pegula will continue to be mesmerized by the "process" sales pitch that McDermott sold him on. 1 1 Quote
foreboding Posted June 7, 2023 Posted June 7, 2023 11 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: 2 of the biggest hits JA took last year was from RT. Neither Brown or Quessenberry have the foot quickness to keep Josh from being "out for the season". Yes we upgraded the IOL. But it's the outside speed rushers who are the threat. Josh seems to hadle the outside rush pretty well. When the pocket collapses immediately from the inside he got in trouble. Quote
Bill from NYC Posted June 7, 2023 Posted June 7, 2023 6 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Bills offense last three years: 2020 - 2nd in points, 2nd in yards 2021 - 3rd in points, 5th in yards 2022 - 2nd in points, 2nd in yards Yet he lumps us in with the Steelers, Seahawks, Bears, and Chargers because they have defensive head coaches. But Josh is running for his life Doc and taking too many dangerous hits. Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted June 7, 2023 Posted June 7, 2023 9 hours ago, Gugny said: We’re the Yankees of the NFL. A regular-season bully that’s not built to go deep into the playoffs. Maybe the front office needs an Assistant to the Traveling Secretary? Quote
McBean Posted June 7, 2023 Posted June 7, 2023 12 hours ago, newcam2012 said: Pretty blunt take from Colin. Wondering how others feel about what he says. Cowherd with the mic drop. 100% spot on. What I’ve been saying for 2+ years now. This thread and video of him needs to be pinned at the top of this board for every poster to watch after we waste seasons after season with McClappy as HC. 1 1 1 1 Quote
Nextmanup Posted June 7, 2023 Posted June 7, 2023 12 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: The BIGGEST takeaway from his rant was the fact that Diggs needs help. That the coach doesn't scheme him open and that the receiver opposite him is inconsistent. All the biggest problem with the team heading into last year's post season, and none of it has been rectified to date. We didn't greatly overpay an underperforming DT however. 1 Quote
Gregg Posted June 7, 2023 Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: The BIGGEST takeaway from his rant was the fact that Diggs needs help. That the coach doesn't scheme him open and that the receiver opposite him is inconsistent. Hopefully Kincaid can be that help. Maybe that can be the Bills version of a Hill/Kelce combo that the Chiefs had for many years. Edited June 7, 2023 by Gregg Quote
Fan in Chicago Posted June 7, 2023 Posted June 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said: But Josh is running for his life Doc and taking too many dangerous hits. This offseason was refreshingly different with the addition of mcGovern, Torrance and others + drafting Kincaid and a host of others on the O side. Yes, we can argue that many of those additions are unproven but at least the attention went to the correct places. My only "but" is another proven, speedy WR to complement Diggs. I dont think we have one to take advantage of Allen's arm fully - like a John Brown or Sanders. If one is added before the season starts, the roster top to down will be fantastic. Quote
Bill from NYC Posted June 7, 2023 Posted June 7, 2023 24 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: This offseason was refreshingly different with the addition of mcGovern, Torrance and others + drafting Kincaid and a host of others on the O side. Yes, we can argue that many of those additions are unproven but at least the attention went to the correct places. My only "but" is another proven, speedy WR to complement Diggs. I dont think we have one to take advantage of Allen's arm fully - like a John Brown or Sanders. If one is added before the season starts, the roster top to down will be fantastic. I am happy with the top 2 picks. My hope is that next season will be a continuation of getting Josh protections and weapons. 1 Quote
machine gun kelly Posted June 7, 2023 Posted June 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said: I can say that they haven't tried hard enough. McDermott drafts DTs, LBs, and DBs galore, and even trades up for them. You are correct. The days of the 86 Bears defense, or the old Raiders secondary are long gone. Players like Jack Tatum and George Atkinson would be arrested today, let alone fined. McDermott fails to recognize this, concentrates on defense, and fails to protect his great, if not generationally talented quarterback. It remains to be seen how long Mr. Pegula will continue to be mesmerized by the "process" sales pitch that McDermott sold him on. McD is the second winningest coach in Bills history and is closing in on playoff appearances in Bills history as well. He’s not perfect, but no coach is perfect. Look at “Chess vs. checkers” BB who is stuck in the early 90’s with running game, two TE’s and defense with a mediocre QB and poor WRs. Cowhwerd is partially right, but only partially as Beane has been perpetually trying g to create an effective O Line. Sure, we’re working on the D Line, but this may be the most talented D Line in awhile worth the inside and outside guys. If we hit on Von by week 5 even if in a rotation will be amazing across from Floyd and Groot. If I’m playing GM for the day, I’d want Shaq who had the second most tackles last year and is an excellent edge setting run defender. I’ve kind of given up on Basham. Epenesa I can see as the 9th if we go with 4 interior. If we keep all 5 then we’re only staying with 8 outside. I don’t see a way we keep 14 defensive Linemen total. McGovern and Mt. O Cyrus are nice additions to the line. 2 Quote
GunnerBill Posted June 7, 2023 Posted June 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said: But Josh is running for his life Doc and taking too many dangerous hits. He does, but that still doesn't mean we deserve comparison with defensive Head Coached teams that have been bad offenses. Sean was part of identifying their franchise Quarterback and has had good offenses. Where Cowherd is right is that the Bills haven't built enough around Josh. I think this offseason they have finally tried to rectify that. I said last offseason that they hadn't done enough up front with Saffold and Bates. I am more optimistic about McGovern, Edwards and Torrance. Kincaid is a shot at adding a genuine passing game weapon with an early pick. Do they have the best offensive roster of the AFC contenders? No. But I am confident they have closed that gap this spring. And spending a couple of mil on a pass rusher is neither here or there in that context anyway. Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted June 7, 2023 Posted June 7, 2023 Cowherd is a goldfish. He doesn't remember what he said 10 minutes ago. 1 Quote
benderbender Posted June 7, 2023 Posted June 7, 2023 1 hour ago, McBean said: Cowherd with the mic drop. 100% spot on. What I’ve been saying for 2+ years now. This thread and video of him needs to be pinned at the top of this board for every poster to watch after we waste seasons after season with McClappy as HC. Cowherd is Nick Wright’s mentor. He took Jim Rome’s “hot take” mantle removed any small amount of original nuance from his one dimensional takes. What’s surprising to me is how he could easily have poked holes in what Beane did this offseason (only drafting OL in 2nd round or only signing FA OLs), but he’s too lazy. Don’t forget he rode Buffalo for the majority of last season in his power rankings despite all of his sudden misgiving. He’s counting on you not to though. 1 Quote
major Posted June 7, 2023 Posted June 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Well, he's no Nick Wright Nick, Cowherd, Stephen A, Bayless, etc.- all of them are like cartoon characters. It’s so sad what they have made themselves into. I hear better sports commentary at the gym or barbershop 1 Quote
RoyBatty is alive Posted June 7, 2023 Posted June 7, 2023 13 hours ago, newcam2012 said: I agree with several of Colin's points. The glaring omission was the Bills make plenty of off season moves on the Oline. He's right about how the Bills Oline has been a weakness for years. Still, he should have addressed the fact that the Bills have tried to solidify the Oline. As a result, I find Colin being disingenuous. He knows or should know about the apparent upgrades on the Oline. Also, I'm not so sure he didn't cherry pick his stats with regards to offensive vs defensive minded coaches. Classic cherry picking on Colin's part to fit his narrative. 1 Quote
CincyBillsFan Posted June 7, 2023 Posted June 7, 2023 4 hours ago, The Wiz said: he was? Man did this not hold up well over time! Now the only way Allen doesn't carve NE and Belichick up is if there's a hurricane hitting the stadium. But I love the Cowherd show: it's entertaining and somewhat informative. To his credit Cowherd admits when he's wrong, which is often, and highlights his screw ups in a weekly spot called "Colin right/Colin wrong". For the record I think his insight on the value of offensive minded coaches over defensive minded coaches is spot on and quite compelling. I also think he's wrong about the Bills because they're the exception that proves the rule. Bean has significantly improved the O line & RB room and we should see it this season. 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted June 7, 2023 Posted June 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Bill from NYC said: I can say that they haven't tried hard enough. McDermott drafts DTs, LBs, and DBs galore, and even trades up for them. You are correct. The days of the 86 Bears defense, or the old Raiders secondary are long gone. Players like Jack Tatum and George Atkinson would be arrested today, let alone fined. McDermott fails to recognize this, concentrates on defense, and fails to protect his great, if not generationally talented quarterback. It remains to be seen how long Mr. Pegula will continue to be mesmerized by the "process" sales pitch that McDermott sold him on. Just not true. In 7 drafts this regime has picked two defensive tackles - total. A 1st rounder and a 3rd rounder. DBs they have drafted lots on day 3, but the fewest in the first two days of the draft of ANY team in the league in that timeframe (since 2017). They have drafted fewer linebackers in the first two days of the draft (3) than they have offensive linemen (4). They haven't been great judges of oline talent. From their FA acquisitions to their draft picks. I agree they could have done more, but that is at LEAST as much about talent evaluation as it has about teambuilding strategy. 1 1 Quote
newcam2012 Posted June 7, 2023 Author Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Still don't understand the Davis hate on this board. Yes he was a bit inconsistent last year but his YPC is elite. He makes difficult catches look routine. He makes a ton of plays. I can forgive some miscues from time to time if he makes up for it with TDs and big catches. If the offense is to play better, it starts with the OL which should be better and then it falls on Allen. People don't want to admit it but he was careless with the ball last year and he missed open guys underneath. Kincaid and another year with Dorsey should help. Run game should be more consistent as well. I think Beane did enough to improve the offense even without Hopkins. All of this can certainly happen and hopefully it does. However, much of it is optimism and looking at the glass half full. Kincaid is a rookie and proclaiming him to be the next Kelce like TE is really not realistic. It's really unknown how much of an impact he will have. Davis is what he is. He's a middling WR2. Not great and not terrible. He certainly deserves criticism after last year's performance. He needs to improve. Dorsey is a pretty big concern. He's young and raw. He's playing calling and schemes were quite elementary. I believe his inexperience was clearly evident last year. There is no guarantee he will improve. Imho, the offense stats were very good due to Allen rather than Dorsey. Beane has made moves this off season. I like his assertive and aggressive mindset. He clearly has tried to address the trenches. It's yet to be seen if these move pay dividends. To be honest, lots of his prior moves have been largely unsuccessful. You would think by now the Oline would be solid? The Bills are no doubt SB contenders. That doesn't suck as compared to the past decades of grief. Credit Beane and McD for building a winner! It's time to take the next step. It's been time for two straight seasons. I'd argue that wasted opportunities are passing. Will this year be another? Edited June 7, 2023 by newcam2012 Quote
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