How will the defense be different this year?

[dma0034]

17 hours ago, DCofNC said:

Let’s get a break down for you week by week:

 

1) W vs Rams - Rams finished 5-12 

 

2) W vs Titans - 7 Win team

 

3) L vs Phins

 

4) W vs Ravens - let up 20 pts, did a good job vs Jackson.  Credible win.

 

5) W vs Pitt - rookie QB

 

6) W vs Chiefs -  best game of the year.

 

7) W vs Packers - hot garbage team, especially at that point in year 3-5 at that point.

 

8:  L- Jets to Zach Wilson no less

 

9) L - Vikes - gave up 33

 

10) W - Browns - back up QB

 

11) W - Lions - 4-7 team at the time.

 

12) W- Pats-  .500 team and Mac Jones.. so basically a back up

 

13) W - Jets - back up QB

 

14) W - Dolphins gave up 29 to Tuna

 

15) W vs Bears 3-12 team 

 

16) Cancelled - getting slapped early by Cinci 

 

17) W - Pats 8-9 team 

18) W - Dolphins 3rd string QB gave up 31.

 

19) L - dismantled by Bengals.   

 

 

 

Holy Cherry Picking Batman. Ignore that the Rams were healthy week 1. The Titans were healthy week 2. Jacoby Brissett played better than Watson last year. The Lions were turning it around at the time. 

 

Trust me: I've been saying the Defense has been over-rated for years but let's not just create a narrative that they just beat terrible teams

[DCofNC]

5 minutes ago, dma0034 said:

 

 

Holy Cherry Picking Batman. Ignore that the Rams were healthy week 1. The Titans were healthy week 2. Jacoby Brissett played better than Watson last year. The Lions were turning it around at the time. 

 

Trust me: I've been saying the Defense has been over-rated for years but let's not just create a narrative that they just beat terrible teams

The Rams did nothing all year, healthy or not. The Titans did nothing all year, healthy or not.

The Lions got a win streak going on garbage teams and still missed the playoffs.  Brissett has never been more than a back-up, regardless of Watson being terrible after missing a season and a half.  There is no “Cherry Picking” going on. 
 

In the last 2 seasons, when this D has been “dominant” They have won 12 games against teams with a rookie or Back-up QB.  In that time, they’ve won 5 games against teams over .500.   They have feasted on garbage.  
 

Cheeseburger keeps contradicting himself, trying to blame Allen for scores and then pointing out the teams didn’t put up a lot of yards while scoring 30+, when you have a short field, you don’t go as far to score, but the D still gave up TDs to a 3rd string QB.  The Eagles and the Chiefs beat bad teams too, but ya know what he’s picking them? THEY WENT TO THE SUPERBOWL.  This D gets man handled every year when it counts.  Who gave up a ton of points all game to KC in the playoffs 2021? Was that Allen?  Was it Allen who let them score in 13 Seconds to lose the game after leading the team on an epic comeback?   The narrative is so bad it hurts.   When it counts this D has crumbled.  
 

This year the competition is way stiffer, to expect them to be better after losing more talent than they replenished, fools gold.

[Royale with Cheese]

18 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

Or you could look at the facts and recognize the ratings have been achieved against inferior talent.  Then also recognize the level of competition has been raised for this coming year and the overall talent of this team has decreased after free agency.   Enjoy the beach life, I’m sure the sand feels nice over your head.

I’ll be patiently waiting. 

 

Chiefs beat 9 teams sub .500 record

Eagles beat 8 teams sub .500 record

That's a fact.  

Why do you only discount the Bills for beating sub .500 teams?

 

 

Also, if you're a top team like the Bills, Bengals, Chiefs, Eagles, 49ers....most teams are inferior.  Like the vast majority is inferior.  

Lets just use the Super Bowl Champion Chiefs.

They only play 5 teams that made the playoffs last year.  Would you say with the opponents below, are they going to be superior or inferior team in most of these games?  Will they be favored or not favored in most of these games?

 

Week 1: vs. Lions (TNF)

Week 2: at Jaguars

Week 3: vs. Bears

Week 4: at Jets (SNF)

Week 5: at Vikings

Week 6: vs. Broncos (TNF)

Week 7: vs. Chargers

Week 8: at Broncos

Week 9: vs. Dolphins (Frankfurt)

Week 10: BYE

Week 11: vs. Eagles (MNF)

Week 12: at Raiders

Week 13: at Packers (SNF)

Week 14: vs. Bills

Week 15: at Patriots (MNF)

Week 16: vs. Raiders

Week 17: vs. Bengals

Week 18: at Chargers
TBD 

[DCofNC]

9 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Chiefs beat 9 teams sub .500 record

Eagles beat 8 teams sub .500 record

That's a fact.  

Why do you only discount the Bills for beating sub .500 teams?

 

 

Also, if you're a top team like the Bills, Bengals, Chiefs, Eagles, 49ers....most teams are inferior.  Like the vast majority is inferior.  

Lets just use the Super Bowl Champion Chiefs.

They only play 5 teams that made the playoffs last year.  Would you say with the opponents below, are they going to be superior or inferior team in most of these games?  Will they be favored or not favored in most of these games?

 

Week 1: vs. Lions (TNF)

Week 2: at Jaguars

Week 3: vs. Bears

Week 4: at Jets (SNF)

Week 5: at Vikings

Week 6: vs. Broncos (TNF)

Week 7: vs. Chargers

Week 8: at Broncos

Week 9: vs. Dolphins (Frankfurt)

Week 10: BYE

Week 11: vs. Eagles (MNF)

Week 12: at Raiders

Week 13: at Packers (SNF)

Week 14: vs. Bills

Week 15: at Patriots (MNF)

Week 16: vs. Raiders

Week 17: vs. Bengals

Week 18: at Chargers
TBD 

Explain to me, why we are talking about SB Champions when the Bills can’t get there?  Those teams won when it mattered, because their Defense did the job, when it mattered.  Yes they beat up on garbage, but nobody was falsely claiming they were the #1 D in the league either.

[Royale with Cheese]

4 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

The Rams did nothing all year, healthy or not. The Titans did nothing all year, healthy or not.

The Lions got a win streak going on garbage teams and still missed the playoffs.  Brissett has never been more than a back-up, regardless of Watson being terrible after missing a season and a half.  There is no “Cherry Picking” going on. 
 

In the last 2 seasons, when this D has been “dominant” They have won 12 games against teams with a rookie or Back-up QB.  In that time, they’ve won 5 games against teams over .500.   They have feasted on garbage.  
 

Cheeseburger keeps contradicting himself, trying to blame Allen for scores and then pointing out the teams didn’t put up a lot of yards while scoring 30+, when you have a short field, you don’t go as far to score, but the D still gave up TDs to a 3rd string QB.  The Eagles and the Chiefs beat bad teams too, but ya know what he’s picking them? THEY WENT TO THE SUPERBOWL.  This D gets man handled every year when it counts.  Who gave up a ton of points all game to KC in the playoffs 2021? Was that Allen?  Was it Allen who let them score in 13 Seconds to lose the game after leading the team on an epic comeback?   The narrative is so bad it hurts.   When it counts this D has crumbled.  
 

This year the competition is way stiffer, to expect them to be better after losing more talent than they replenished, fools gold.

 

Here you go again making things up.

 

The Titans did nothing all year???  By week 11, they were 7-3 and holding the #3 seed.  One of those losses was to the Chiefs when Malik Willis was starting at took the Chiefs into overtime in Arrowhead.  

This is a case of you basically lying to make your point "stronger".  

 

The Lions beat 3 playoff teams in their streak lol.  They were a top scoring offense lol.  

[Don Otreply]

On 6/4/2023 at 5:33 PM, Success said:

I don't expect to see a "bend but don't break" philosophy.  I think we'll see more risks - willing to give up a big play to try to make more impact plays on the defensive side.  More press coverage, not laying 8-10 yards off the receiver at the line.  More aggressive blitzing.

 

And I think it will succeed.  Our '23 defense will get more sacks, more INT's, more fumbles, more TFL.

 

Agree on all the stated differences, 

 

Imo, the recent playoff exits stick in McDermott’s craw so to speak, and he thinks to himself, I’ll be damned if it’s happening again. 

[Royale with Cheese]

6 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

Explain to me, why we are talking about SB Champions when the Bills can’t get there?  Those teams won when it mattered, because their Defense did the job, when it mattered.  Yes they beat up on garbage, but nobody was falsely claiming they were the #1 D in the league either.

 

It seems that you believe if you win a playoff game, it's because the defense did their job.

Did the Chiefs defense do their job against the Eagles this year when they played in the Super Bowl when they gave up 35?

Did the Chiefs defense do their job against the Bills when they gave up 36?

Or were these offensive shootouts?  I'll let you answer that.

[BullBuchanan]

16 hours ago, gordong said:

I suspect we will have a real pass rush this year and so the defense will actually improve as the year goes on. (barring the dreaded injuries which all the whiners seem to ignore. I one point for a couple games we played two rookies and two backups in the secondary. having both safeties healthy and white much closer to his true form is going to help significantly.  as well as getting von back. 

With what players? The same ones that couldn't generate a pass rush last year are all coming back.