purple haze Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Billsfan4588 said: Color me confused. I'd understand if it was a discount, but that's top dollar. No it’s not. Like 4 DT’s just signed extensions this off-season at 21+ million per year. That’s top dollar. Oliver is getting middling money. 1 Quote
StHustle Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: I think Ed would’ve had a big year playing for money… strikes me as that kindve personality/attitude. Can you explain what Ed Oliver has said or has done that makes you feel this way? 3 Quote
MikePJ76 Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said: blowing 7.5% of your cap on a chronic under-achiever just so you don't have to replace him is a complete loser mentality. It's not. Not by an stretch. Go out on the open market and sign another 3T and see what that costs. The top guys don't get out of their organizations. You have to draft them so keeping your own is usually the best way to go. With the salary cap increase in the next few years and probably an out on this contract in 3 years its not the big deal everyone is freaking out about. 2 Quote
Dablitzkrieg Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 It's good to see who the new whipping boy is now that Edmunds is gone. Great job Bills fans👏🏾 1 Quote
Johnnycage46 Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, Success said: It's important to note that if anyone who posts on this board was GM, we'd still be deep into the drought. No offense to anyone, of course. Well, if I were the GM we probably would have been disbanded by the rest of the owners due to complete incompetence. So you're welcome everybody! Quote
TwistofFate Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 https://media.tenor.com/SZbEhuQie7UAAAAM/sigh-ok.gif Quote
Billzgobowlin Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 This is a very good move. He was stellar when he had Von there. The problem has been there has not been much help on the line. 1 Quote
PrimeTime101 Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 20 minutes ago, Augie said: Like the QB market, he is also “the most recent”. That matters. In that regard I think it’s a fair deal for all. yep.. some on here are just not realistic. is what it is Quote
Bangarang Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 I’m genuinely surprised at the timing of this. Quote
MrEpsYtown Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 I like Ed. I think he is disruptive while playing within the defense. He has the ability and quickness to make splash plays like a Dareus or JJ Watt, but Oliver does his job and helps his team win. He has some flaws in his game at the point of attack and frankly there are times when he is asked to so to much. This is a small risk, but I for one am glad they are bringing him back. 1 1 Quote
Augie Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: 11th highest annual among DT. lol You realize that being “the most recent” is very important factor in judging a players ranking in terms of value, right? The most recent QB to sign a huge deal does not make him the best QB. It just means he got next man up money while the cap keeps rising. I have no problems with the $$$ for Ed as long as he stays healthy and plays to his ability. Quote
PrimeTime101 Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 22 minutes ago, Augie said: Like the QB market, he is also “the most recent”. That matters. In that regard I think it’s a fair deal for all. the point is.. you do not want to sit on a player that has a potential to blow up his prior years numbers and then you can not afford him.... (Cough Edmunds) Quote
Chaos Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 14 minutes ago, Success said: It's important to note that if anyone who posts on this board was GM, we'd still be deep into the drought. No offense to anyone, of course. Does anyone who posts on the board have a staff of professional scouts to assist them on personnel decisions? Don't sell people short. 1 Quote
bearstobills Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 8 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said: It's not. Not by an stretch. Go out on the open market and sign another 3T and see what that costs. The top guys don't get out of their organizations. You have to draft them so keeping your own is usually the best way to go. With the salary cap increase in the next few years and probably an out on this contract in 3 years its not the big deal everyone is freaking out about. Man....I love sanity!! Quote
purple haze Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 1 hour ago, PetermansRedemption said: Don’t understand this at all. Let him play the final year and then you could have paid him that if he improved. No, it would be more. That’s why teams do deals early. It’s a risk but it could be a great deal for the Bills. It’s almost like some posters on this board don’t know that several DT’s this off-season signed extensions at 21-24 million per year. And Chris Jones and Quinnen Williams haven’t even gotten theirs yet. Chris Jones signed an extension 4 years ago that is similar to what Oliver just agreed to. It’s not that much in the grand scheme; especially if he gets more consistent Quote
Virgil Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, Billzgobowlin said: This is a very good move. He was stellar when he had Von there. The problem has been there has not been much help on the line. Shouldn’t your DT make your DE’s better, not the other way around? Quote
PBF81 Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Dave_Bills said: Don’t know the numbers but this looks like a gamble by Beane. I thought 2023 would be his last year as a Bill. Need more production with that kind of money. Yeah, and now he's got a lot of incentive to provide by stepping up. LOL Quote
Aussie Joe Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, purple haze said: No, it would be more. That’s why teams do deals early. It’s a risk but it could be a great deal for the Bills. It’s almost like some posters on this board don’t know that several DT’s this off-season signed extensions at 21-24 million per year. And Chris Jones and Quinnen Williams haven’t even gotten theirs yet. Chris Jones signed an extension 4 years ago that is similar to what Oliver just agreed to. It’s not that much in the grand scheme; especially if he gets more consistent We all saw how Dareus improved after he got his bag.. 1 Quote
Einstein Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 40 minutes ago, Simon said: I don't watch film of 50 other NFL DLinemen and neither do you. Nope, I sure don't. I just use PFF Quote
PBF81 Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Motorin' said: Yeah... But might it be 68 across 5 season, making it 13.5 per? Nearly $11M for this season, $45M guaranteed. I'm shocked. We couldn't sign Edmunds and have mystery meat at LB, but for a LB that shows up two or three times a season he gets that kinda of money. Quote
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