dave mcbride Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 ,“Just continue to play the game as much as possible from the neck up. When you have the kind of talent Ed has, you have to understand situations that could mean the difference between separating yourself from the opponent (and saying), ‘I have to able to process very, very quickly so I can win my one-on-one so I can play ahead of the play as opposed to playing with the sequence of that particular play.’ “With Ed, from an experience standpoint, we need him to play ahead as opposed to with the tempo of the play so (understanding) situations, certain nuances with certain calls and understanding where he can take advantage based on his position (is important).” Hooboy. And wow. And yikes. Reading between the words isn’t required to interrupt what Washington was saying, right? Understanding situations … Process very, very quickly. … Play ahead of the play. If it reads to you as if Washington wants Oliver to do more video study and be more committed to during-the-week preparation in order to perform better in games – that was 100% my lean once I transcribed the quote.’ https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/ryan-ohalloran-to-hear-bills-tell-it-ed-olivers-final-chance-to-earn-long-term/article_cc3f0636-009a-11ee-8d28-c3fb3d9ee3df.html 3 1 1 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 Obviously Ed needs to continue improving and that is what he's saying Ed needs to improve. No hoo boy's needed IMO 1 2 13 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 So he's an idiot who rely's on his physical skills...great 1 2 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 Sure, finally figure it out and go get paid the mega-deal elsewhere. I can live with that if it means he tore it up this year on his way to a special season. Rinse and repeat. 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 I think "reading between the lines (maybe)" to "interpret" what is being said is that the Coach doesn't believe the player is playing as smart as he wishes based on his physical talent. That whether the player needs to study and prepare better, or that the player is not smart enough to grasp what must be accomplished. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 There’s no question this is Oliver’s year to prove he deserves a big 2nd contract. We’ll see what he does with it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 For all the excuses in college why he didn’t have productive numbers, he’s been the same player in the NFL. Let’s see if he can an Edmunds type breakout year. I like that the Bills are putting some pressure on him to elevate his game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted June 2, 2023 Author Share Posted June 2, 2023 14 minutes ago, Tom Donahoe, GM said: Obviously Ed needs to continue improving and that is what he's saying Ed needs to improve. No hoo boy's needed IMO He’s saying he’s basically a moron (or at least plays like a moron on the football field). 2 3 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 As I read the comments, Washington essentially is saying that Oliver needs to prepare better--or, put simply, do his homework. It's kind of like reading the textbook in a class you're taking. It's funny how things are a lot easier and make a lot more sense if one actually bothers to read the book. Seems like the same concept here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 should not surprise anyone. i mean, he had athletic traits out of control since the day we drafted him, and has had flashes but is simply not very productive. that more or less leaves his mentality/brains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 (edited) I think the comments encapsulate why the draft is a crap shoot. All of these guys are athletically gifted coming out of college and most were that way their entire life. But when they turn professional they don’t all understand what kind of commitment is required to be good at your craft. And as pretty much any employer will tell you, the same can be said for just about every other college major as well. Edited June 2, 2023 by SoCal Deek 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 problem is there isn't much from the neck up... 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 Dummy who relies on physical skills. Thats what I heard said very diplomatically. What appears to be another example of Beane and Company’s poor record of drafting D line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, dave mcbride said: ,“Just continue to play the game as much as possible from the neck up. When you have the kind of talent Ed has, you have to understand situations that could mean the difference between separating yourself from the opponent (and saying), ‘I have to able to process very, very quickly so I can win my one-on-one so I can play ahead of the play as opposed to playing with the sequence of that particular play.’ “With Ed, from an experience standpoint, we need him to play ahead as opposed to with the tempo of the play so (understanding) situations, certain nuances with certain calls and understanding where he can take advantage based on his position (is important).” Hooboy. And wow. And yikes. Reading between the words isn’t required to interrupt what Washington was saying, right? Understanding situations … Process very, very quickly. … Play ahead of the play. If it reads to you as if Washington wants Oliver to do more video study and be more committed to during-the-week preparation in order to perform better in games – that was 100% my lean once I transcribed the quote.’ https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/ryan-ohalloran-to-hear-bills-tell-it-ed-olivers-final-chance-to-earn-long-term/article_cc3f0636-009a-11ee-8d28-c3fb3d9ee3df.html What I'm reading is he just doesn't anticipate the play the way he should and think about what to do before the play comes to him. He can study all he wants, studying won't help if he doesn't react in time or ahead of time. I'm sure he's also told Oliver the same. Edited June 2, 2023 by Ed_Formerly_of_Roch 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 1 hour ago, dave mcbride said: ,“Just continue to play the game as much as possible from the neck up. When you have the kind of talent Ed has, you have to understand situations that could mean the difference between separating yourself from the opponent (and saying), ‘I have to able to process very, very quickly so I can win my one-on-one so I can play ahead of the play as opposed to playing with the sequence of that particular play.’ “With Ed, from an experience standpoint, we need him to play ahead as opposed to with the tempo of the play so (understanding) situations, certain nuances with certain calls and understanding where he can take advantage based on his position (is important).” Hooboy. And wow. And yikes. Reading between the words isn’t required to interrupt what Washington was saying, right? Understanding situations … Process very, very quickly. … Play ahead of the play. If it reads to you as if Washington wants Oliver to do more video study and be more committed to during-the-week preparation in order to perform better in games – that was 100% my lean once I transcribed the quote.’ https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/ryan-ohalloran-to-hear-bills-tell-it-ed-olivers-final-chance-to-earn-long-term/article_cc3f0636-009a-11ee-8d28-c3fb3d9ee3df.html It’s doesn’t appear to be a vote of confidence but you never know why coaches say things publicly. They often use it as an opportunity to challenge players knowing it will get back to them - so the video study definitely makes sense. The most disappointing thing about Oliver is that the three DT’s that we passed on have greatly outplayed him in Lawrence, Simmons and Wilkins. Unless he breaks out, Ed is going to have to sign a contract that greatly dwarfs what those 3 make. At least we didn’t draft Jerry Tillery 😭 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 53 minutes ago, eball said: There’s no question this is Oliver’s year to prove he deserves a big 2nd contract. We’ll see what he does with it. If he does have a good year I still don't expect the Bills to pony up the money required to keep him. I think the Bills want to get bigger at that spot moving forward. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 I interpret it as him saying that sometimes he's late to the line and slow off the snap. Which he is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Simon said: I interpret it as him saying that sometimes he's late to the line and slow off the snap. Which he is. If so, seems like that is something you could fix, but it's puzzling it hasn't happened by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 Sounds like his next contract will have a film study clause…, it has a certain Arizona QB ring to it, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 Oliver has been a massive disappointment plain and simple 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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