Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 They compromised and agreed to something.. insane!! Crazy!!! After sailing though House on bipartisan vote, Biden-McCarthy debt ceiling deal now goes to Senate (from @AP) https://apnews.com/article/b8c3566b0c9cb168d9706aa256e327f7 1 1
SoCal Deek Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 Everyone should remember this negotiated compromise and how the media mob on both sides has tried to stoke more tribal division in the country. Is everyone happy? Nope. Did everyone get exactly what they wanted? Nope. This is what a negotiation looks like. 4 1 1
BillsFanNC Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 I'm not so sure this indicates anything other than business as usual in the swamp. After all the WH said for months that they wouldn't negotiate on this while the GOP was asking for them to negotiate. There's the genesis of this round of partisan rancor. Either way this deal sucks, both parties suck and this will simply continue us down the road to oblivion. Viva la swamp! 4
SoCal Deek Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 1 minute ago, BillsFanNC said: I'm not so sure this indicates anything other than business as usual in the swamp. After all the WH said for months that they wouldn't negotiate on this while the GOP was asking for them to negotiate. There's the genesis of this round of partisan rancor. Either way this deal sucks, both parties suck and this will simply continue us down the road to oblivion. Viva la swamp! All true but at least we’ll all go over the Falls together! 😉 1
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 1, 2023 Author Posted June 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: I'm not so sure this indicates anything other than business as usual in the swamp. After all the WH said for months that they wouldn't negotiate on this while the GOP was asking for them to negotiate. There's the genesis of this round of partisan rancor. Either way this deal sucks, both parties suck and this will simply continue us down the road to oblivion. Viva la swamp! maybe… it’s still the least dysfunctional moment in recent political history 1
Tommy Callahan Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 And just think. without a debt limit for the next two years. they have unlimited ability to push stimies and more military aid without issues when the crap hits the fan.
The Frankish Reich Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 37 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Everyone should remember this negotiated compromise and how the media mob on both sides has tried to stoke more tribal division in the country. Is everyone happy? Nope. Did everyone get exactly what they wanted? Nope. This is what a negotiation looks like. And for me the true shocker: on the key, publicized points - slowing the growth of spending a bit, adding some work requirements for certain continuing benefits - the contents of the deal actually seem reasonable. Will wonders never cease? 2
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 1, 2023 Author Posted June 1, 2023 19 minutes ago, Chris farley said: And just think. without a debt limit for the next two years. they have unlimited ability to push stimies and more military aid without issues when the crap hits the fan. I heard the actual number yesterday.. $38 billion to Ukraine so far. Russia (the entire country) only spent 86BB in 2022 1
SoCal Deek Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 17 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: And for me the true shocker: on the key, publicized points - slowing the growth of spending a bit, adding some work requirements for certain continuing benefits - the contents of the deal actually seem reasonable. Will wonders never cease? Exactly. The fact that both parties had representatives that voted against it is a step in the right direction. Now let’s see if they can keep it up. It’s going to take a lot of baby steps before this totally out of control spending spree federal government will learn to walk on its own. 1
Tiberius Posted September 20, 2023 Posted September 20, 2023 Welp, scratch McCarthy off that list. The MAGA House is spinning to a shutdown...again 1
Tiberius Posted September 27, 2023 Posted September 27, 2023 1 minute ago, B-Man said: A government shutdown is looming with September 30 as the deadline. Democrats are attacking the Republicans over it and doing their "extreme MAGA Republican" thing, hoping that the targeting sticks. Yes, how dare any of the Republicans not want to continue the rampant spending we've seen from the Democrats and the Biden team? That same spending helped fuel the inflation that everyone is suffering from now. Imagine thinking that paying attention to how our money is spent and stopping the slide into further debt is a bad thing. But that's what Democrats keep trying to sell to the American people, they keep trying to tag the Republicans and not wasting money as "extreme." Yet, as I reported, a new poll shows that the American people aren't buying that line. Indeed, they're so down on the Biden team at this point, that if the government shutdown happens, more would blame Joe Biden for the problem. That's how deep a hole the Democrats have dug for themselves. Matt Gaetz: "We are devaluing American money so rapidly that in America today, you can’t even bribe Democrat Senators with cash alone! You need to bring gold bars to get the job done, just so that the bribes hold value!" https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2023/09/27/matt-gaetz-delivers-the-line-of-all-time-about-dems-dedication-to-wasting-our-money-n2164357 Dude, this is all on the "Freedom"caucus crowd yelping for attention. Period 1
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 27, 2023 Author Posted September 27, 2023 On 9/20/2023 at 11:30 AM, Tiberius said: Welp, scratch McCarthy off that list. The MAGA House is spinning to a shutdown...again Was nice while it lasted anyway
B-Man Posted September 27, 2023 Posted September 27, 2023 Bipartisan Rebuke: House Bill Funds School Hunting and Archery Courses, Reversing Biden Admin In a 424-1 vote, the House approved the Protecting Hunting Heritage and Education Act with 216 Republicans and 208 Democrats voting in favor, and just one lawmaker, Rep. Veronica Escobar, D-Texas, voting against. https://redstate.com/wardclark/2023/09/27/bipartisan-rebuke-house-bill-funds-school-hunting-and-archery-courses-reversing-biden-admin-n2164380 Civil Rights restored. .
SectionC3 Posted September 27, 2023 Posted September 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, B-Man said: Bipartisan Rebuke: House Bill Funds School Hunting and Archery Courses, Reversing Biden Admin In a 424-1 vote, the House approved the Protecting Hunting Heritage and Education Act with 216 Republicans and 208 Democrats voting in favor, and just one lawmaker, Rep. Veronica Escobar, D-Texas, voting against. https://redstate.com/wardclark/2023/09/27/bipartisan-rebuke-house-bill-funds-school-hunting-and-archery-courses-reversing-biden-admin-n2164380 Civil Rights restored. . How is a hunting course a civil right? Only in B-Man’s universe, I suppose.
B-Man Posted September 27, 2023 Posted September 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: How is a hunting course a civil right? Only in B-Man’s universe, I suppose. ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ How to show the board that you're a moron, without actually typing it.
SectionC3 Posted September 27, 2023 Posted September 27, 2023 1 minute ago, B-Man said: ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ How to show the board that you're a moron, without actually typing it. That was funny. Hoax. I remain curious as to how I have a right to have a hunting course administered and funded in a public school. Your failure to offer a substantive response reflects that, as usual, you were just talking out of your rear and there is no such right to the administration and funding of a hunting course.
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 27, 2023 Posted September 27, 2023 The problem is the majority of both parties are irrational. Because everyone knows borrowing to infinity has consequences and is fiscally reckless. But they choose to ignore these consequences. Because businesses and citizens demand their free stuff. Or they'll vote for somebody else that promises to continue running the gravy train. What facilitates this marvelous arrangement of living well beyond our means is the dollar reserve and trade settlement system. Slowly but surely that is coming to an end in a form not totally clear. When the tipping point is reached the party's over. 1 1 1
B-Man Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 WHAT GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN? It is still not clear whether we might have a “government shutdown” because of dissent among House Republicans on our mangled budget process, but it is worth repeating something that has been pointed out before: the hysteria over a “government shutdown” is overdone. Think back to past government shutdown: Were your local schools still open? Did your local police still patrol the streets, and were your state and local courts still open and functioning? For that matter, did you still get your mail delivered? (Yes you did, in case you have forgotten.) The point is, there are something like 50,000 government units in America, ranging from your local mosquito abatement district up through state government to the federal government. Although the federal government is the largest government unit, it is only one among our 50,000 government jurisdictions, many of which are more important to our day-to-day lives than the federal government is. In fact, even a federal government “shutdown” doesn’t mean no federal government at all (kind of like Prohibition that way); Social Security checks still get sent out, and other “essential” services, like our military in the field, continue. The always reliable Dan Henninger notes this in his Wall Street Journal column yesterday: Quote If There’s a Government Shutdown, Will Anyone Notice? Two related questions. If a tree falls in an empty forest, does it make a sound? Ergo, if the federal government shuts down this weekend, will anyone notice? . . . We understand the concern about paychecks not going out to Border Patrol agents and the like, but the government-shutdown scenario usually evokes images of Washington itself turning into a ghost town. Guess what? It’s already empty. Of the nearly 300,000 federal workers in Washington, most aren’t bothering to show up these days at those great stone buildings that people think of as “Washington.” A post-pandemic report this summer by the Government Accountability Office found that 17 of the federal headquarters buildings surveyed were at 25% or less capacity. I used to think that government shutdowns were mostly a pointless sideshow, but I’m growing more enthusiastic. Especially since, when the government “re-opens,” no one will much notice that either. https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2023/09/what-government-shutdown-2.php https://www.wsj.com/articles/if-government-shuts-down-will-anyone-notice-remote-work-officials-funding-desantis-30d9503c?mod=MorningEditorialReport&mod=djemMER_h 1 1
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