Hopkins released by Arizona (7/16: signed by Titans)

[BillsFanForever19]

1 hour ago, PatsFanNH said:

I don’t think he wants ANY of the teams that want him. The Pats may be the best option of the 4 because, per talking heads, he has a deep respect for BB.  (And to the Jones comments on here, the man has played with a lot worse with the Texans.)

 

I agree, to an extent.

 

I believe Buffalo and KC are interested. But they're only in on a one year, incentive laden deal. Hopkins really doesn't want that. On the other hand, the Titans and Pats are probably offering closer to what he wants with a contract, but he'd prefer to sign with a contender and a team with a QB who has better arm strength and talent to get him deep balls.

 

That's why I think we're in this holding pattern. Either he gets a team he wants, but doesn't get the contract he wants or he gets the contract he wants, but doesn't get the situation he wants. 

 

He was hoping in taking the visits to New England and Tennessee that a team like Kansas City or Buffalo would see it and up their offer. But obviously, that hasn't happened and it doesn't appear that it will. 

 

Ultimately, I think NE and/or TEN are going to tell Hopkins that they'll pull their offer(s) if he doesn't agree by a certain date and when push comes to shove - he'll end up signing with one of them.

[TheWeatherMan]

2 hours ago, PatsFanNH said:

I don’t think he wants ANY of the teams that want him. The Pats may be the best option of the 4 because, per talking heads, he has a deep respect for BB.  (And to the Jones comments on here, the man has played with a lot worse with the Texans.)

It’s never the best option for any WR to play for a bottom 5 QB regardless of how much respect they have for the HC.  

[PatsFanNH]

1 hour ago, TheWeatherMan said:

It’s never the best option for any WR to play for a bottom 5 QB regardless of how much respect they have for the HC.  

Ok he isn’t bottom 5, nor is he top 15. But he is IMO 16-20. Last year hurt everyone on the offense. Also don’t forget he has played with top end WR in college and at least 2 have said they preferred Mac over Tua. 

[Irv]

Hopkins got released???

[Rocky Landing]

3 hours ago, NewEra said:

Agreed.

 

Also agree that he’s played with worse than macnchz but I think that’s one of the reasons he doesn’t want to go there.  He knows how much he hates playing with 💩 QBs 

Love the spelling of Mac & Cheese. I’m stealing that. 👍

[The Wiz]

This will put a wrinkle in the "DHop to NE" speculation.

 

 

[Warriorspikes51]

44 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

This will put a wrinkle in the "DHop to NE" speculation.

 

 

what exactly has he done to warrant that kind of $?  Even though it opens a few mil in space for them now, would expect that makes it much less likely Hopkins signs there

[DCofNC]

52 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

This will put a wrinkle in the "DHop to NE" speculation.

 

 

Umm wow. 

[The Wiz]

19 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

what exactly has he done to warrant that kind of $?  Even though it opens a few mil in space for them now, would expect that makes it much less likely Hopkins signs there

According to the Pats fans replying to that tweet, absolutely nothing.

[Prospector]

Have his tires been kicked yet?

[billsbackto81]

Parker was to be released if the Pats signed Hopkins. Does this take them out of the running?

 

I really think he wants Buffalo but can't see it happening unless a lot of concessions on both sides are made.

[The Wiz]

49 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said:

Parker was to be released if the Pats signed Hopkins. Does this take them out of the running?

 

I really think he wants Buffalo but can't see it happening unless a lot of concessions on both sides are made.

I feel like both sides want it to happen but both sides also have number they wont cross.  At the very least, it just shows that NE isn't going to sit around and be used to try to drive up his market.  If anything, that signing was kind of a "FU" to him because Parker isn't worth that money.

 

The only one with the flexibility is DHop.  Bills are up against the cap and are only playing ball if he comes in at the right price.

Edited June 29, 2023 by The Wiz

[Augie]

1 hour ago, Prospector said:

Have his tires been kicked yet?

 

The tires are getting angry, at this point. 

 

 

And the price becomes more reasonable…..

😋

[BillsFanForever19]

3 hours ago, billsbackto81 said:

Parker was to be released if the Pats signed Hopkins. Does this take them out of the running?

 

I really think he wants Buffalo but can't see it happening unless a lot of concessions on both sides are made.

 

Where did you hear they were going to release Parker? It doesn't make sense that they'd say "if we can sign Hopkins, we'll release Parker" and then shift to "okay, we couldn't sign Hopkins so we're going to give Parker a 3 year, 33 million dollar extension". Teams don't operate that way. They gave up a 3rd for Parker just last year, he was always in their plans when Hopkins came in to visit.

 

Extending Parker likely frees up cap space this year, making it easier for them to sign Hopkins. I wouldn't read a thing into extending Parker. If anything, the Parker extension helps them get Hopkins.

Edited June 29, 2023 by BillsFanForever19

[PrimeTime101]

are we sure he is available this off-season? 

 

 

[BADOLBILZ]

4 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

what exactly has he done to warrant that kind of $?  Even though it opens a few mil in space for them now, would expect that makes it much less likely Hopkins signs there

 

 

That's what guys "you hope end up as your veteran boundary WR3 in a dynamic offense" money looks like.    He's in the MVS and Gabe category.   I don't think it puts them out on Hopkins at all.

[Doc Brown]

23 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

That's what guys "you hope end up as your veteran boundary WR3 in a dynamic offense" money looks like.    He's in the MVS and Gabe category.   I don't think it puts them out on Hopkins at all.

It makes it more likely imo as it will pry clear up around four million in cap space.  They could've saved six million by cutting him but they may want both Hopkins and Parker.  Bourne is an obvious cut candidate (frees up 5.4m) if they do sign Hopkins.

[Solomon Grundy]

4 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

It makes it more likely imo as it will pry clear up around four million in cap space.  They could've saved six million by cutting him but they may want both Hopkins and Parker.  Bourne is an obvious cut candidate (frees up 5.4m) if they do sign Hopkins.

Bourne is a nice player. Hell, if NE cuts him I'd bring him to Buffalo for the right price. 

[boyst]

Deandre Hopkins does not belong on page 2 people.

 

Get it together!

[Pete]

The Pats are the only team stupid enough to consider paying DH.  They are desperate at WR, have lots of cap space, fans pressuring for signing, but no other team is willing to pay that amount.

 

DH don’t like to practice, he does not have Bills DNA imo.  No thank you to DH.  I like our WR group now, and I don’t think DH adds much we don’t already have