Hopkins released by Arizona (7/16: signed by Titans)

[Virgil]

  On 6/3/2023 at 10:34 PM, Mr. WEO said:

https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/05/30/inside-deandre-hopkins-release-options-bills-chiefs

 

Some team execs quoted:

 

"not much left".  "he can't run anymore".

 

"he's not going to separate, not much of a deep threat"

 

“Does not love to practice—I can’t imagine that’ll get any better. And when things don’t go well, you’re always gonna be leery, All right, what kind of drama are we gonna get from this guy? When things are great, he’s great. When things go south, his true colors show a little bit."

 

No teams but Bills and Chiefs gave him a whiff...

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I think this is smoke.  He performed great when he came back.  And I would challenge any of those execs to have their team single cover DHop and see how it goes for them 

[Einstein]

  On 6/3/2023 at 10:53 PM, MikePJ76 said:

The last thing Allen needs is two ego maniac wr yelling at him in the huddle and on the sideline when they are behind or are struggling. 

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LOL!

 

Imagine this:

 

 

 

[Mr. WEO]

  On 6/3/2023 at 11:03 PM, MikePJ76 said:

the source is being over the top...

 

its probably that loser michael lombardi.

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It was Albert Breer.

 

There's nothing over the top in that article at all, actually.

 

  On 6/3/2023 at 11:15 PM, Solomon Grundy said:

He NEVER was a DEEP THREAT. Can he catch the ball? I think he can be a better version of Beasley for Josh. A reliable safety valve 

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lol, sure.

 

  On 6/3/2023 at 11:31 PM, Virgil said:

I think this is smoke.  He performed great when he came back.  And I would challenge any of those execs to have their team single cover DHop and see how it goes for them 

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Not great.  Played only 19 games the past 2 years--total of under 1300 yards. That's not all against double coverage..

 

 

 

 

[MikePJ76]

  On 6/4/2023 at 12:02 AM, Mr. WEO said:

 

It was Albert Breer.

 

There's nothing over the top in that article at all, actually.

 

 

lol, sure.

 

 

Not great.  Played only 19 games the past 2 years--total of under 1300 yards. That's not all against double coverage..

 

 

 

 

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albert breer wrote the article and cited a team executive saying hopkins can not run anymore.....that is being dramatic.  He can still play.

[Mat68]

  On 6/3/2023 at 6:47 PM, Einstein said:

 

If a player can't play year 1, then they shouldn't be a 1st round pick.

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They played.  If they were drafted to a worst team they would start.  

[John from Riverside]

I wonder if the Oliver extension does anything on the Hopkins front?

[Mr. WEO]

  On 6/4/2023 at 12:11 AM, MikePJ76 said:

albert breer wrote the article and cited a team executive saying hopkins can not run anymore.....that is being dramatic.  He can still play.

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if Breer quotes 3 different team executives’ opinions of Hopkins current abilities…he’s being dramatic?

 

that makes no sense at all.  He’s quoting football executives—one of which also had positive things to say.

 

Save yourself, go read the article. 

[MikePJ76]

  On 6/4/2023 at 12:18 AM, Mr. WEO said:

if Breer quotes 3 different team executives’ opinions of Hopkins current abilities…he’s being dramatic?

 

that makes no sense at all.  He’s quoting football executives—one of which also had positive things to say.

 

Save yourself, go read the article. 

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I am not sure what you are misunderstanding here.

 

I am saying the source...the team executive is being dramatic.  I think that was pretty clear.  Breer wrote the article quoting a source, a team executive Who I said is being dramatic....not breer...the source.

[Warriorspikes51]

  On 6/4/2023 at 12:26 AM, MikePJ76 said:

I am not sure what you are misunderstanding here.

 

I am saying the source...the team executive is being dramatic.  I think that was pretty clear.  Breer wrote the article quoting a source, a team executive Who I said is being dramatic....not breer...the source.

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it’s probably an executive hoping to drive his market down by saying that

[Mat68]

  On 6/4/2023 at 12:13 AM, John from Riverside said:

I wonder if the Oliver extension does anything on the Hopkins front?

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Oliver resigning could create more cap space than any other single move Buffalo could make.  I think him signing would be paired with a restructure to Dawkins as well.

[Fan in Chicago]

  On 6/4/2023 at 12:13 AM, John from Riverside said:

I wonder if the Oliver extension does anything on the Hopkins front?

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Let us see if Oliver's extension has freed up money right now. Not saying that the money should be spent on Hopkins but I have dreams of a speedy WR, capable of being our # 2, being strangely available for a trade. If that dream were to come true, the Bills would clearly become one of the top 2 favorites to win it all.  

[Mr. WEO]

  On 6/4/2023 at 12:26 AM, MikePJ76 said:

I am not sure what you are misunderstanding here.

 

I am saying the source...the team executive is being dramatic.  I think that was pretty clear.  Breer wrote the article quoting a source, a team executive Who I said is being dramatic....not breer...the source.

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point to the drama 

  On 6/4/2023 at 12:30 AM, Warriorspikes51 said:

it’s probably an executive hoping to drive his market down by saying that

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the point of the article is that there has been no market for Hopkins….

 

[Virgil]

  On 6/4/2023 at 12:02 AM, Mr. WEO said:

 

It was Albert Breer.

 

There's nothing over the top in that article at all, actually.

 

 

lol, sure.

 

 

Not great.  Played only 19 games the past 2 years--total of under 1300 yards. That's not all against double coverage..

 

 

 

 

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Please don’t check my math, but I think that’s about 1100 yards over 17 games.   I’ll take that next to Diggs in a heartbeat.  It’ll definitely command attention from the defense.  
 

Could it be a swing and a miss, sure.  But it’s a swing I think we need to take 

[MikePJ76]

  On 6/4/2023 at 12:49 AM, Mr. WEO said:

point to the drama 

the point of the article is that there has been no market for Hopkins….

 

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omg man.

 

for the umpteenth time, saying hopkins cant run anymore is a bit dramatic.  

[BillsFanForever19]

  On 6/4/2023 at 12:37 AM, Mat68 said:

Oliver resigning could create more cap space than any other single move Buffalo could make.  I think him signing would be paired with a restructure to Dawkins as well.

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Or....

 

It could be a move that does absolutely nothing to his current contract and simply adds on to it.

 

I remember an extension in the past (maybe it was Tre?) where everyone assumed we were going to get cap space and come to find out they just added years and kept the current year the same.

[Warriorspikes51]

  On 6/4/2023 at 12:52 AM, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Or....

 

It could be a move that does absolutely nothing to his current contract and simply adds on to it.

 

I remember an extension in the past (maybe it was Tre?) where everyone assumed we were going to get cap space and come to find out they just added years and kept the current year the same.

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considering we had 1-2 mil in space, I’d imagine they wanted 5-6 mil opened up from Ed’s extension (even if it’s not for a specific UFA) gives them some flexibility

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[Mr. WEO]

  On 6/4/2023 at 12:51 AM, Virgil said:

Please don’t check my math, but I think that’s about 1100 yards over 17 games.   I’ll take that next to Diggs in a heartbeat.  It’ll definitely command attention from the defense.  
 

Could it be a swing and a miss, sure.  But it’s a swing I think we need to take 

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posters live to extrapolate stars that don’t exist.  It’s not a meaningful exercise.  The numbers he put up were not “great”.

 

the guy can’t play close to a full season since 3 years ago

 

 

  On 6/4/2023 at 12:52 AM, MikePJ76 said:

omg man.

 

for the umpteenth time, saying hopkins cant run anymore is a bit dramatic.  

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NFL executives disagree with your professional opinion.

 

tell them that are wrong minded drama queens 

[BillsFanForever19]

  On 6/4/2023 at 12:54 AM, Warriorspikes51 said:

considering we had 1-2 mil in space, I’d imagine they wanted 5-6 mil opened up from Ed’s extension (even if it’s not for a specific UFA) gives them some flexibility

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I wouldn't just assume that to be the case though until it's reported.

 

Like I said, I remember making an extension (might have been Tre) when we were in a similar situation, expecting cap relief, and it was just an extension in every sense of the word.

[GoBills808]

  On 6/4/2023 at 12:56 AM, Mr. WEO said:

posters live to extrapolate stars that don’t exist.  It’s not a meaningful exercise.  The numbers he put up were not “great”.

 

the guy can’t play close to a full season since 3 years ago

 

 

NFL executives disagree with your professional opinion.

 

tell them that are wrong minded drama queens 

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Putting up those numbers w colt McCoy is better than great lol

[BillsShredder83]

  On 6/3/2023 at 10:53 PM, MikePJ76 said:

I saw this earlier today and I think its a bit dramatic.  I do agree on parts of it and I still do not think he is not the missing piece by any stretch in Buffalo.  

 

The last thing Allen needs is two ego maniac wr yelling at him in the huddle and on the sideline when they are behind or are struggling. 

 

WR never put teams over the top.

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Diggs hates losing. Dude doesnt care about the ball if were winning, winning is fun.

Also, Ive never seen Hopkins b-word about targets. Maybe I missed it, but the % we throw the ball, there are ZERO ZERO ZERO issues with having two #1 WR's

 

All the Hopkins bad mouthing sounds like people who think we have no chance and are pre justifying it.

 

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