Bleeding Bills Blue Posted May 24, 2023 Posted May 24, 2023 Honestly he looks bigger arm wise too. He'll drop some weight doing conditioning with the team, but I think he's learned that after the covid year that you don't want to slim down at the position. 9 hours ago, mrags said: “We” also overpaid for a guy at LT to be a top tier guy and it hasn’t really worked out. don’t get me wrong. I don’t think he’s terrible. I think he’s extremely over rated. Especially by fans. And I think if he’s your 3rd best OL you’re in alright shape. But if you are expecting him to be your best OL then you are in trouble. I just think he would do much better with someone decent next to him. Hopefully McGovern helps him this year. He's what... 21 in AAV at tackle? Quote
BillsVet Posted May 24, 2023 Posted May 24, 2023 Dion looks like he needs a couple more tattoos. Those are gonna look great as he continues to "fill out" and age. Quote
BarleyNY Posted May 24, 2023 Posted May 24, 2023 26 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: He's what... 21 in AAV at tackle? 12th among LTs LINK and 22nd among OTs. That seems about right for him. I’ve always liked Dawkins as a player and from what I’ve seen of him as a person. That said, his weight has been a concern that has grown each season. I can see him playing out his contract but don’t see how he gets extended. Not bringing in a quality swing tackle this season could be a real problem. Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted May 24, 2023 Posted May 24, 2023 59 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: Are you the guy that was claiming that Trent Williams maintains the same condition as Dawkins because they are both "listed" at 330? Because even in these pictures it's very clear that Dawkins is much fatter. Dawkins is more in the 350+ range in June every year. He's got the bingo wings flapping in the OP picture. Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted May 24, 2023 Posted May 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: 12th among LTs LINK and 22nd among OTs. That seems about right for him. I’ve always liked Dawkins as a player and from what I’ve seen of him as a person. That said, his weight has been a concern that has grown each season. I can see him playing out his contract but don’t see how he gets extended. Not bringing in a quality swing tackle this season could be a real problem. Yeah he's not overpaid and unless he starts getting injured he's probably an average LT over the next two seasons that he is under contract. He's just capable of being better and you'd like to have seen him get serious about being one of the best and staying at LT into his mid-30's. If he had done so by now he probably would have already gotten a big contract extension already. They are letting his deal play out for a reason. 3 2 Quote
Chicken Boo Posted May 24, 2023 Posted May 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Back2Buff said: Best in the biz right there. My 2nd favorite offensive lineman all time behind Willie Roaf. Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted May 24, 2023 Posted May 24, 2023 11 hours ago, JohnNord said: Remember…the camera adds 10 pounds! It’s May….I’m not worried about him. How many cameras are on him? 5 Quote
dpberr Posted May 24, 2023 Posted May 24, 2023 He's out of shape. Clearly. The biggest problem for the Bills OL is summed up in this picture. Beer league softball strong, but terribly conditioned, especially compared to the guys on the Eagles and Ravens offensive lines. The Eagles running success is due in large part to the excellent conditioning of their linemen. Those guys are physically in the game in the fourth quarter. Bills OL are physically exhausted by halftime. Lots of hands on hips, gasping for oxygen. 1 1 1 1 Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted May 24, 2023 Posted May 24, 2023 Just now, dpberr said: He's out of shape. Clearly. The biggest problem for the Bills OL is summed up in this picture. Beer league softball strong, but terribly conditioned, especially compared to the guys on the Eagles and Ravens offensive lines. The Eagles running success is due in large part to the excellent conditioning of their linemen. Those guys are physically in the game in the fourth quarter. Bills OL are physically exhausted by halftime. Lots of hands on hips, gasping for oxygen. Damn, we are better than we thought. We won 13 games last year when our OL can only play half the game by being exhausted. James Cook might be the best RB in the NFL by a wide margin because he averaged 5.7 ypc behind a line that only plays one half of football. 2 Quote
Beck Water Posted May 24, 2023 Author Posted May 24, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: He’s a big dude and still a better athlete 99.9% of this MB lol What's your point? The scrubs who come in for weekly tryouts to see if they make the practice squad are better athletes than 99.99% of this message board. That's why they're professional athletes who get paid millions of dollars a year to be athletes and we're on a message board, durrrrr. Even the scrubs on the practice squad make at minimum $216,000 per year, which is likely more than 99% of the people on this message board make or made in their best year. The question is, is he in his best shape to protect Josh's blindside or is this going to be another early 2021 where Dion was a train wreck in the early season and Josh's eyes were going to the L side of his line instead of downfield (Dion leveled up at the end of that season and played very well) Edited May 24, 2023 by Beck Water 1 1 Quote
Chandler#81 Posted May 24, 2023 Posted May 24, 2023 He’s a tub of goo and highly overrated, imo. 1 1 Quote
frostbitmic Posted May 24, 2023 Posted May 24, 2023 He's just a bit wider which will make defenders have farther to go to get around him, giving Josh an extra second. 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted May 24, 2023 Posted May 24, 2023 1 hour ago, BarleyNY said: 12th among LTs LINK and 22nd among OTs. That seems about right for him. I’ve always liked Dawkins as a player and from what I’ve seen of him as a person. That said, his weight has been a concern that has grown each season. I can see him playing out his contract but don’t see how he gets extended. Not bringing in a quality swing tackle this season could be a real problem. He is 14th. That list misses Mailata ($16m AAV) and Stanley ($19.75m AAV). 1 Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted May 24, 2023 Posted May 24, 2023 28 minutes ago, dpberr said: He's out of shape. Clearly. The biggest problem for the Bills OL is summed up in this picture. Beer league softball strong, but terribly conditioned, especially compared to the guys on the Eagles and Ravens offensive lines. The Eagles running success is due in large part to the excellent conditioning of their linemen. Those guys are physically in the game in the fourth quarter. Bills OL are physically exhausted by halftime. Lots of hands on hips, gasping for oxygen. I think the pass and run splits cause a lot of that too. Pass blocking is just constantly getting pushed back, punched, chopped, etc instead of driving forward. Hopefully getting a bit stouter with bigger backs, adding a power guard can help some of that. I'd like to see us be able to grind a lead out in some of these midseason games. Quote
Sharky7337 Posted May 24, 2023 Posted May 24, 2023 He took a page out of Josh's book. He's never been so focused on food as he is now. Quote
BringBackFergy Posted May 24, 2023 Posted May 24, 2023 Let's let Dion and the trainers work their magic for another three months. He's been a solid LT for five years and a cagy vet (for younger guys). 2 Quote
Bills_inthe6 Posted May 24, 2023 Posted May 24, 2023 let's hope this doesn't affect his play... word on the streets says Torrence fell to the 2nd round just because of his terrible body... as long as they can play who cares !!! 1 Quote
blacklabel Posted May 24, 2023 Posted May 24, 2023 Surely the most judgmental spouting off in here are all Adonis types... 1 Quote
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