PrimeTime101 Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 On 5/23/2023 at 3:39 PM, Don Otreply said: There are only three constants in the universe, hydrogen, stupidity, and change for the worse…, it appears Theweatherman doesn’t like humor, i guess he needs to temper his expectations…, lol, Expand You know, It is only funny when both sides are laughing.... now your just acting like a big bully. enough is enough. 1 1 Quote
AuntieEm Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 On 5/23/2023 at 4:20 PM, machine gun kelly said: Right, but do you think player 43-53 are ever really going to see the field for even a minute unless catastrophic injuries. At least you can give guys an opportunity to shine there and then try and earn their way into a real position later. Expand I guess that s why you have coaches that can see players in practice and learn which players got plays down the way the coaches want them executed. Good coaching staffs will get their young guys snaps in real games to get them experience. 1 Quote
PrimeTime101 Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 On 5/23/2023 at 5:29 PM, TBBills Fan said: welcome to the era of the squib kick Expand nope. nope. that is how you get fumbles maybe, but that is also how you give up TD's because your kickoff team does not have the time to set up. Much like a line drive punt. 1 Quote
TBBills Fan Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 On 5/23/2023 at 5:33 PM, PrimeTime101 said: nope. nope. that is how you get fumbles maybe, but that is also how you give up TD's because your kickoff team does not have the time to set up. Much like a line drive punt. Expand from what i read, the coaches are against it and said it will result in more squib kicks which is more dangerous, therefore the rule is dumb? 2 Quote
PrimeTime101 Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) On 5/23/2023 at 5:34 PM, TBBills Fan said: from what i read, the coaches are against it and said it will result in more squib kicks which is more dangerous, therefore the rule is dumb? Expand never said the rule was not dumb, I just doubt there are more squibs. Right away your more likely to give up to many yards on a squib. Edited May 23, 2023 by PrimeTime101 1 Quote
TBBills Fan Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) On 5/23/2023 at 5:39 PM, PrimeTime101 said: never said the rule was not done, I just doubt there are more squibs. Right away your more likely to give up to many yards on a squib. Expand I dont know, but i did read that was a major point ST coaches were trying to make (if this is a "safety" related rule change) https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/05/23/nfl-approves-putting-ball-on-25-yard-line-following-fair-catches-on-kickoffs/ Special teams coordinators around the league had a different view of the impact of the rule change, however, and came out against it recently. In addition to seeing it as a possible step toward eliminating kickoffs entirely, there has been discussion that the rule change could encourage squib kicks and other attempts to force teams to field kickoffs and negate potential increases in safety in the process. Edited May 23, 2023 by TBBills Fan Quote
PrimeTime101 Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 On 5/23/2023 at 5:40 PM, TBBills Fan said: I dont know, but i did read that was a major point ST coaches were trying to make (if this is a "safety" related rule change) Expand time will tell 1 Quote
TheWeatherMan Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 On 5/23/2023 at 3:39 PM, Don Otreply said: There are only three constants in the universe, hydrogen, stupidity, and change for the worse…, it appears Theweatherman doesn’t like humor, i guess he needs to temper his expectations…, lol, Expand Or I’m a weatherman that knows hydrogen isn’t a constant. You verified the second constant mentioned 😂 3 Quote
BarleyNY Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 On 5/23/2023 at 5:06 PM, nucci said: it's a somethingburger. Most every start after a kick will be 25. No more returns. And what exactly is a nothing burger? Expand meh. like 40% get returned now - and most of those wind up around the 25 anyway. whoop. just get rid of it already 1 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 On 5/23/2023 at 4:17 PM, Warriorspikes51 said: So this means a player can just catch a kickoff at the 3 yard line, signal fair catch and it comes to the 25? Expand Yup...the infamous 13 second game would've been one of the last opportunities to take advantage of a short high pooch. Now that's off the table. Majority of kicks are out of the endzone so just do away with kickoffs altogether. Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 On 5/23/2023 at 5:22 PM, nucci said: I like when we kick short and tackle runner inside 20 Expand Teams average 20.2 yards per kickoff vs the Bills. It’s pointless. Quote
Captain_Quint Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 On 5/23/2023 at 5:15 PM, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: We all remember the infamous fair catch in the endzone during 2019 Playoff Game in Houston. Expand You mean the fumble??? So what if you do faircatch a short kick at the 35yd line? Does it go to the spot or back to the 25yd line? Quote
BillsFanSD Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 I would not mind if they took KOs out of the game entirely. Punts make sense, but there's a certain logic to starting every new field position battle after a score at the same starting point. I don't like the fact that this rule change is going to turn a lot of returns into "surprises." That's unaesthetic but it seems to me that it also makes returns more dangerous than they were before. Quote
Patrick Duffy Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 On 5/23/2023 at 4:34 PM, BarleyNY said: The difference is that now a fair caught kick off anywhere inside the 25 yard line comes out to the 25. Same as in FBS. Expand Personally, I don't see much of an issue myself. I mean considering how a lot of the times KO's are through the EZ or fair caught in the EZ anyways. 2 Quote
Don Otreply Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 On 5/23/2023 at 5:41 PM, TheWeatherMan said: Or I’m a weatherman that knows hydrogen isn’t a constant. You verified the second constant mentioned 😂 Expand A Fair exchange is no robbery 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 How many kickoffs result in a fair catch anyway? NFL models predict it will reduce returns from 38% to 31%. Not earth shattering. 1 Quote
jwhit34 Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 On 5/23/2023 at 4:50 PM, Warriorspikes51 said: This is actually a great idea in general. Either a 5 yard penalty for delay of game or 15 yard penalty for being wrong on a challenge Speaking of Delay of Game... Can we PLEASE do something about the play clock hitting 0 and the lack of consistency on when an officiating crew actually calls a penalty? Sometimes it is immediate. Other times 2-3 full seconds after the clock hits 0 and no flag This is currently the most annoying rule issue in the NFL. Have a buzzer go off in the stadium immediately upon the play clock hitting 0. Something. Anything!!! Expand This is the easiest to fix - do what the NBA does and when the play clock (NBA shot clock) gets to 5 go to showing tenths of a second. Can't get any clearer than that. Quote
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 On 5/23/2023 at 3:46 PM, BruceVilanch said: So... Can you fair catch an onside kick? Expand No, because the ball is bounced to the receiving team. 1 Quote
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