Don Otreply Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: There are only three constants in the universe, hydrogen, stupidity, and change for the worse…, Edited May 23, 2023 by Don Otreply 4 1 1 4 Quote
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 Might as well do away with kickoffs and start at the 25. They want to get rid of the play anyway. 6 10 Quote
BruceVilanch Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 So... Can you fair catch an onside kick? 1 1 Quote
Dablitzkrieg Posted May 23, 2023 Author Posted May 23, 2023 1 minute ago, BruceVilanch said: So... Can you fair catch an onside kick? Good question Quote
T&C Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 This is where the coffin corner kick comes into play... Quote
That's No Moon Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, BruceVilanch said: So... Can you fair catch an onside kick? Unless it hits the ground first, that negates a fair catch. So if you kick it rolling along the ground or immediately bouncing, no. 3 minutes ago, T&C said: This is where the coffin corner kick comes into play... It applies to kickoffs, if you kickoff out of bounds it goes to the 40. It doesn't say anything about fair caught punts going to the 25. Quote
Saxum Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 Very stupid rule change. Waiting for a team to get used to a fair catch and then returner fakes a fair catch and takes it for a touchdown. 4 Quote
nucci Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: Might as well do away with kickoffs and start at the 25. They want to get rid of the play anyway. yep 13 minutes ago, BruceVilanch said: So... Can you fair catch an onside kick? Yes but now kicks caught inside 25 go to 25 Edited May 23, 2023 by nucci Quote
That's No Moon Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 Just now, Limeaid said: Very stupid rule change. Waiting for a team to get used to a fair catch and then returner fakes a fair catch and takes it for a touchdown. Faking a fair catch is a penalty. Pretending you aren't going to catch the ball isn't, but it remains risky. The primary value of special teams is on punts and punt coverage, Nyhiem Hines amazing day not withstanding 1 minute ago, nucci said: yep No, only kicks inside the 25 You can fair catch kickoffs already, that's not new. Teams do it on mortar kicks frequently. 1 2 Quote
nucci Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 1 minute ago, That's No Moon said: You can fair catch kickoffs already, that's not new. Teams do it on mortar kicks frequently. right but now inside 25 goes to 25 instead of where caught 1 2 Quote
That's No Moon Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 1 minute ago, nucci said: right but now inside 25 goes to 25 instead of where caught Yes, I didn't understand that to be the person's question though Quote
nucci Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 Just now, That's No Moon said: Yes, I didn't understand that to be the person's question though Yeah, i think I screwed it up. I tried to correct it The Bills like to kick short and to the corner to pin teams inside 20. No more of that 2 Quote
That's No Moon Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, nucci said: Yeah, i think I screwed it up. I tried to correct it The Bills like to kick short and to the corner to pin teams inside 20. No more of that They'll probably keep doing it. Give teams the risk/reward choice. Plus on windy/wet days you still need to catch the ball. Also, someone is going to mistakenly wave a fair catch and let the ball bounce, thinking it's like a punt. 3 Quote
Saxum Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 Best reply to that tweet: Quote The facade of player safety continues to make the game less enjoyable. “We want to lessen the the collisions on your body so we’re gonna ruin this play but add games to the schedule and another team to the playoffs. You’re welcome.” 3 1 Quote
nucci Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 Just now, Limeaid said: Best reply to that tweet: and play games with only 3 days off 1 Quote
ArdmoreRyno Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 17 minutes ago, BruceVilanch said: So... Can you fair catch an onside kick? I never knew that was even possible until I was watching my Cowboys (Oklahoma State) play Texas Tech this year. Tech scored on their opening drive (up 7-0) and kicked an onside kick on the kickoff. OSU player waved his arm and while Tech recovered, it was a penalty on the Red Raiders because of the fair catch rule. Brilliant play by the kid. Got the ball to start the drive inside the Tech 35 yard line. 5 Quote
Bray Wyatt Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said: I never knew that was even possible until I was watching my Cowboys (Oklahoma State) play Texas Tech this year. Tech scored on their opening drive (up 7-0) and kicked an onside kick on the kickoff. OSU player waved his arm and while Tech recovered, it was a penalty on the Red Raiders because of the fair catch rule. Brilliant play by the kid. Got the ball to start the drive inside the Tech 35 yard line. The bills got screwed on a similar play awhile back in the Bobby April days. I think it was against the Vikings, we kicked it high and short into the corner and they ruled one of the up man called for a fair catch so even though it worked out where the Bills recovered, the Vikes got the ball. The guy did put his arm in the air, but he didnt really wave it or anything, I remember thinking it was a bad call. Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 41 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Am I missing something? How is that much different than now? Is it currently the 20 yard line? Quote
MJS Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 Really stupid how they continue to focus on this one, single play. Just leave it alone already. 1 Quote
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