MJS Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 51 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: why would this change be good for teams or fans? SURPRISE! To Players: Surprise! Short rest this week! To Season Tix Fans: Surprise! Guess you cant go cause your boss sucks To Indiv Tix Holders Outta State: Surprise! Looks like you wasted flight money and cant go! To 95% of fans who watch on TV: Surprise! You get to watch a better football game than the crap we had scheduled. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 15 hours ago, haroldwaide said: They have to give a four week notice. Plenty of time to adjust travel plans. A lot can change in 4 weeks. They could still end up with crap, which I hope happens once or twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 10 hours ago, JoPoy88 said: nah. in most cases with the amount of whining that takes place on this board I’d normally agree with you but this is a bad change. It benefits nobody except the league and its bottom line. It potentially inconveniences fans and shifts more health risks to players. It’s not a good move. It benefits me, as I would like to see better games on TNF. 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 I've said it before and I'll say it again: Mark Cuban was right. The NFL is Icarus. The brazen, insatiable greed of the owners will continue to chip away at the quality and integrity of the game, little by little, until the leagues' waxen wings turn ashen. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigs Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 16 hours ago, JerseyBills said: 🤮 Wish Terry was on the other side, even though it wouldn't make a difference. Especially since Buf has a good chance to be flexed But really the Bengals are the only team consistently good team that voted NO The Bengals vote no on nearly everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 They can have the most competitive game of the week on every Thursday night, and I'm still not paying for Prime. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 11 hours ago, JoPoy88 said: nah. in most cases with the amount of whining that takes place on this board I’d normally agree with you but this is a bad change. It benefits nobody except the league and its bottom line. It potentially inconveniences fans and shifts more health risks to players. It’s not a good move. Of course it only benefits the league. Are we really going to pretend that things like "player safety" and "what the fans want" matter? Always follow the $$ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxum Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 18 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said: NFL owners have approved flexing for "Thursday Night Football" starting this season during Weeks 13 through 17. The change passed by a 24-8 vote, a source told ESPN's Adam Schefter, with the New York Giants, New York Jets, Green Bay Packers, Chicago Bears, Las Vegas Raiders, Detroit Lions, Cincinnati Bengals and Pittsburgh Steelers voting against it. Why did Pegula vote for this??? "Its all bout the fans " my ass It is about the fans but not those who buy tickets. I think the year without fans most games changed attitude of some owners about fans in stands. 17 hours ago, haroldwaide said: They have to give a four week notice. Plenty of time to adjust travel plans. Many people buy tickets months ahead of time on non-refundable tickets. Also not everyone can just take a weekday off and if you are coming from a distance two weekdays off. There are employers who require multiple week notice for time off. TNF Fever is not a valid medical excuse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxum Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 12 hours ago, Doc Brown said: It does benefit the tv viewer as you're more likely to get a better/more meaningful game. However, I don't think that positive outweighs the negatives you laid out. It may benefit tv view who pay for Amazon but it takes away game from fans who would be able to watch game on weekend and not pay Amazon. Change was made to benefit Amazon and likely was agreed in principle when Amazon signed contract. 2 hours ago, MJS said: To 95% of fans who watch on TV: Surprise! You get to watch a better football game than the crap we had scheduled. Not all 95% of fans have Amazon. You are exaggerating to try to strengthen you point which is a sign of a weak argument. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 18 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said: NFL owners have approved flexing for "Thursday Night Football" starting this season during Weeks 13 through 17. The change passed by a 24-8 vote, a source told ESPN's Adam Schefter, with the New York Giants, New York Jets, Green Bay Packers, Chicago Bears, Las Vegas Raiders, Detroit Lions, Cincinnati Bengals and Pittsburgh Steelers voting against it. Why did Pegula vote for this??? "Its all bout the fans " my ass If you guys were listening to WGR this morning, this is only for this year and Sal broke it down game by game. It won’t affect us at all. Week 13- Bye Weeks 14 and 15 - Nationally televised 4:20 pm games so CBS and Fox can protect these games as it’s the Chiefs and Cowboys. Week 16- Primetime with the Chargers so not a switchable game at 8:20. Literally the only switchable game is against the Cheatriots in week 17 which is at 1 pm. The likelihood of the Cheats being relevant with that dumpster fire by week 17 is highly unlikely. All three AFCE opponents my guess is going to beat them like a punching bag all season and couldn’t happen to a better coach. Maybe we can get our fantasy and another 7-10 to 8-9 season existing in mediocrity, but not high enough to even get a real franchise QB. A boy can dream. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 17 hours ago, haroldwaide said: They have to give a four week notice. Plenty of time to adjust travel plans. If you’re a fan who has tickets…and is retired, maybe. There’s a lot of planning that goes on around nfl games for fans from out of town. Vacation time from work, AirBnB, hotel reservations, car rental, etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 23 minutes ago, Dopey said: If you’re a fan who has tickets…and is retired, maybe. There’s a lot of planning that goes on around nfl games for fans from out of town. Vacation time from work, AirBnB, hotel reservations, car rental, etc. Then the answer is…don’t go to late season away games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Of course it only benefits the league. Are we really going to pretend that things like "player safety" and "what the fans want" matter? Always follow the $$ and benefits the players big time. Amazon pays $1B per year for Thursdays. That money finds its way more or less directly into the salary cap , which goes straight to the players, who are happy to bear a bit of injury risk to make more $$. TV Fans get another day of prime time football every week. Amazon has another goodie to give away to their zillions of happy Prime customers (Prime rocks, BTW) . A small minority of stadium goers and non Prime customers are somewhat put out, but they are dwarfed by those that benefit. Pretty straightforward. Players happy, vast majority of fans happy, what's not to like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 18 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said: They call this a regional franchise, people make plans from all over the country for a Sunday game. Now it gets moved to Thursday Night , thats my issue. It's not all about the fans as Roger would say its about the $$ Far more fans watch on TV than attend the games. No one wants to watch a 12-9 Bears vs Texans game on TNF. He’s not wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 11 hours ago, Fleezoid said: They can have the most competitive game of the week on every Thursday night, and I'm still not paying for Prime. I truly get the too many streaming options thing. I'm down to 1, but Amazon is a silly one to complain about. Nobodies paying them for the streaming, that's just a perk, it's easily the most convenient service of all time 🤷♂️ that also happens to give me the sole 4k game experience of every week. Even the SB isn't in 4k lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 9 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said: I truly get the too many streaming options thing. I'm down to 1, but Amazon is a silly one to complain about. Nobodies paying them for the streaming, that's just a perk, it's easily the most convenient service of all time 🤷♂️ that also happens to give me the sole 4k game experience of every week. Even the SB isn't in 4k lol It's really not complaining, it's a choice. But call it what you will. Bottom line, Amazon has the Thursday games to make money. Some folks already have Prime. So the Thursday games are a perk. I don't. But the NFL is telling me if I want to watch those games I have to pay for it. Screw that. Why doesn't the NFL start charging everyone $3.50 for every game they watch? Same dam thing. Thursday night viewership is down 46%. The NFL claims it's the competitiveness of the games. Perhaps that's part of it. But IMO it's a small part. I'm guessing there's a lot of people like me that won't get a streaming service to watch 4 games a month. But the NFL says it's viewership so they have to fix it with a ridiculous flex plan. With all that said, it certainly does look like I'm complaining. However, I'm completely OK with not watching Thursday football. Except for the Bills. If they're on, I just go to the bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 On 5/23/2023 at 9:02 AM, Gary Marangi said: Should play games on Friday instead of Thursdays Agree. Wondering if the NFL is concerned about losing fans due to a lot of Friday night H.S. football? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethro_tull Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Flex the games, F- the attending fans 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxum Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 5 hours ago, Fleezoid said: It's really not complaining, it's a choice. But call it what you will. Bottom line, Amazon has the Thursday games to make money. Some folks already have Prime. So the Thursday games are a perk. I don't. But the NFL is telling me if I want to watch those games I have to pay for it. Screw that. Why doesn't the NFL start charging everyone $3.50 for every game they watch? Same dam thing. I have Amazon Prime and I'd not call it a perk when prices were raised. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockpile233 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 As someone who watches TNF every week, I’m glad I’ll get fewer terrible and uninteresting games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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