Trump Was Selling Pardons For $2 Million

[Kemp]

11 minutes ago, SCBills said:

IF he did this, it’s obviously another example of corruption, just like Kushner dealings with the Saudis.

 

I say “if” because “if” this happened, it would be a much bigger deal than an obscure story from a civil case. 
 

Regardless, you shouldn’t support politicians for being upstanding citizens… they are not.   
 

Don’t support them because you think they believe in what they’re saying… they don’t. 
 

Just support people who most advance your views and stop acting like personal ethics is quantifiably present in politics. 

 

Are you saying that if there is proof of a candidate's corruption you should still vote for them if they advance your views or am I misunderstanding your post?

[Tommy Callahan]

pretty sure selling pardons is a crime, not a civil matter. 

 

No investigation?  

[Tommy Callahan]

Just now, SUNY_amherst said:

 

Good point. The republican majority Congress should investigate donald trump on this

I was talking actual investigators, not political theatre.

 

 

 

 

[SCBills]

1 hour ago, Kemp said:

 

Are you saying that if there is proof of a candidate's corruption you should still vote for them if they advance your views or am I misunderstanding your post?

Yes. 
 

I suppose Trump’s son in law making millions off his influence from the Saudis or the allegation of selling pardons is worse - to some people - than lying to a nation in order to destroy Iraq or drone bombing innocent civilians in Syria and Libya, but (in my opinion) it’s just baked into the cake.  
 

That’s why you haven’t seen me harping on the Hunter Biden stuff.  I just assume the Biden’s made a ton of money off access from foreign governments.  Just like the Clinton Foundation was set up to do for Hillary.  
 

My issue has simply been the media/govt coordination to hide the story before an election.  But the content of it … cracked out son, banging hookers and random payments from foreign govt’s while serving on boards he’s unqualified for in Ukraine and China?..  eh, whatever … you think these people go into office upper middle class and exit millionaires off the govt salary?

 

Most, if not all, at the national level are corrupted to some level.  Donors, influence, power … it is what it is.   Just vote for who advances your views the most. 
 

Also, I wouldn’t be too worried about “Trump getting away with something..” … the man has literally been investigated for stuff he didn’t do, as we just had confirmation of this week. 
 

Edited May 17, 2023 by SCBills

[T master]

On 5/16/2023 at 9:29 AM, Tiberius said:

Ya sure

 

Well until they pull each one of those that are making these claims into court & have them make the statements under oath along with Rudi's helper that asked if the guy want a pardon it's all nothing but here say which TIbs is great at .

 

You would look up any claim just to make him look bad or worse than you have already tried to . Sure he ain't no squeaky clean politician like Joe but hey if all the BS that has been put out about him since he was in office was true i'm thinking he would have already been in a cell by now .

 

But seeing as Durham has basically said the russian thing was pretty much( in so many words) a bunch of BS all the haters will be grasping at anything they can to have the guilty before proven innocent verdict of public opinion . 

[Tiberius]

6 minutes ago, T master said:

 

Well until they pull each one of those that are making these claims into court & have them make the statements under oath along with Rudi's helper that asked if the guy want a pardon it's all nothing but here say which TIbs is great at .

 

You would look up any claim just to make him look bad or worse than you have already tried to . Sure he ain't no squeaky clean politician like Joe but hey if all the BS that has been put out about him since he was in office was true i'm thinking he would have already been in a cell by now .

 

But seeing as Durham has basically said the russian thing was pretty much( in so many words) a bunch of BS all the haters will be grasping at anything they can to have the guilty before proven innocent verdict of public opinion . 

Trump is the most corrupt American politician of our time 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Trump is the most corrupt American politician of our time 

[Tiberius]

 

[T master]

17 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Trump is the most corrupt American politician of our time 

 

Oh yah and Joe is the smartest president of our time . 🙄  He has never lied, always had great policy, thought through every move he's made with a good plan in place moving forward & has always put Americans first in everything he's done since being in office . 

 

If you believe any of that BS i got some ocean front property on Mt Everest i'll sell you ... Joe is as big a POS if not bigger because he doesn't have a clue where he S**T last let alone how to run a country ... He's beat Carter when it comes to being incompetent .

 

The biggest thing is he's Bull S**TT'd you & some others into thinking he's all that & a bag of chips so who's the bigger DA ?? you or Joe ? I'm thinking you !! Because he's getting paid to be a DA & you just follow along for free ...

[Tiberius]

2 minutes ago, T master said:

 

Oh yah and Joe is the smartest president of our time . 🙄  He has never lied, always had great policy, thought through every move he's made with a good plan in place moving forward & has always put Americans first in everything he's done since being in office . 

 

If you believe any of that BS i got some ocean front property on Mt Everest i'll sell you ... Joe is as big a POS if not bigger because he doesn't have a clue where he S**T last let alone how to run a country ... He's beat Carter when it comes to being incompetent .

 

The biggest thing is he's Bull S**TT'd you & some others into thinking he's all that & a bag of chips so who's the bigger DA ?? you or Joe ? I'm thinking you !! Because he's getting paid to be a DA & you just follow along for free ...

Trump really is, by far, the most corrupt person to hold high office, probably ever 

 

Joe? Not really. You are not being honest comparing the two 

 

Dishonest 

[T master]

2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Trump really is, by far, the most corrupt person to hold high office, probably ever 

 

Joe? Not really. You are not being honest comparing the two 

 

Dishonest 

 

The only thing is if you get rid of the BS that the libs made up for the time before him winning his election then while in office it would only be about a quarter of what you & others have made up .

 

Despite it being said over & over again by others that the russian thing was TOTAL BS proven that the steel dossier was bought & paid for & now Durham saying that it had no relevance to it ya'll still sit on that pedestal & all of us had to pay out billions in tax dollars to follow a farce . Illegal FISA warrants and all aside .

 

So if you take the BS away it's not as bad as you all make it out to be & in a lot of ways no worse than what Hillary & her husband have done while in office but getting a BJ while in the oval office & causing others deaths because of not calling of reinforcements to get Americans out of a bad situation in Benghazi is nothing at all like a bunch of jack asses deciding to go into the capital building . 

 

But hey that's okay just over look all that ... 

[ALF]

Giuliani , the big guy Trump gets a 50% cut

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, T master said:

 

The only thing is if you get rid of the BS that the libs made up for the time before him winning his election then while in office it would only be about a quarter of what you & others have made up .

 

Despite it being said over & over again by others that the russian thing was TOTAL BS proven that the steel dossier was bought & paid for & now Durham saying that it had no relevance to it ya'll still sit on that pedestal & all of us had to pay out billions in tax dollars to follow a farce . Illegal FISA warrants and all aside .

 

So if you take the BS away it's not as bad as you all make it out to be & in a lot of ways no worse than what Hillary & her husband have done while in office but getting a BJ while in the oval office & causing others deaths because of not calling of reinforcements to get Americans out of a bad situation in Benghazi is nothing at all like a bunch of jack asses deciding to go into the capital building . 

 

But hey that's okay just over look all that ... 

Trump is the most corrupt, immoral, dishonest, ignorant and self-severing person ever elected to high office in our country's history. Period 

[T master]

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

Trump is the most corrupt, immoral, dishonest, ignorant and self-severing person ever elected to high office in our country's history. Period 

 

No bias or hatred here folks !!

[Pokebball]

On 5/17/2023 at 5:47 AM, Kemp said:

 

Are you saying that if there is proof of a candidate's corruption you should still vote for them if they advance your views or am I misunderstanding your post?

At the federal level, don't we all do this each and every election? It's the lesser of two evils mantra, right?

[All_Pro_Bills]

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

Trump is the most corrupt, immoral, dishonest, ignorant and self-severing person ever elected to high office in our country's history. Period 

I suggest as an example, Andrew Jackson might be worthy of mention for that honor.  Name a specific action of Trump that is worse than the "trail of tears" forced relocation of Native Americans.  I could name other chief executives and their transgressions but as a professed student of history you should know better.  

[Tiberius]

12 minutes ago, T master said:

 

No bias or hatred here folks !!

Only in you defending his corruption 

3 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

I suggest as an example, Andrew Jackson might be worthy of mention for that honor.  Name a specific action of Trump that is worse than the "trail of tears" forced relocation of Native Americans.  I could name other chief executives and their transgressions but as a professed student of history you should know better.  

True, Trump didn’t ethnically cleanse a group 

[T master]

On 5/20/2023 at 9:38 AM, Tiberius said:

Only in you defending his corruption 

True, Trump didn’t ethnically cleanse a group 

 

Well seeing as it's been brought out in the Durham report that there was truly no evidence of collusion & that official bias was the driving force behind the investigation despite the lack of evidence of any of those on Trumps election team and they pushed forward with the FISA warrants any way & the collusion was in Hillary's camp to spread the lies from the Steel Dossier knowing that they were false .

 

Also that Comey had no real evidence to go forward but did anyway with a FBI investigation & that not 1 of those scum bags will ever be brought to justice and it was all under the guise of the Obama administration which your boy Joe was neck deep in .

 

I'd say you given your bias are also defending their corruption so we are even . Obama, Joe, Schiff, Hillary, Comey, Sadler, CNN, MSNBC, And the rest all go free & Trump is free with those of his campaign having to pay the price of public opinion and num nuts like you will continue to shoot your mouth off despite what Durham or any one else has said weather it was a 4 yr investigation or not .

 

You need to start a thread that Durham was paid off by Trump to say what he did or that he is also hooked in with the Russians which its the reason for his findings & all will be right in TIBSville .

 

 

Edited May 22, 2023 by T master

[Tiberius]

14 minutes ago, T master said:

 

Well seeing as it's been brought out in the Durham report that there was truly no evidence of collusion & that official bias was the driving force behind the investigation despite the lack of evidence of any of those on Trumps election team and they pushed forward with the FISA warrants any way & the collusion was in Hillary's camp to spread the lies from the Steel Dossier knowing that they were false .

 

Also that Comey had no real evidence to go forward but did anyway with a FBI investigation & that not 1 of those scum bags will ever be brought to justice and it was all under the guise of the Obama administration which your boy Joe was neck deep in .

 

I'd say you given your bias are also defending their corruption so we are even . Obama, Joe, Schiff, Hillary, Comey, Sadler, CNN, MSNBC, And the rest all go free & Trump is free with those of his campaign having to pay the price of public opinion and num nuts like you will continue to shoot your mouth off despite what Durham or any one else has said weather it was a 4 yr investigation or not .

 

You need to start a thread that Durham was paid off by Trump to say what he did or that he is also hooked in with the Russians which its the reason for his findings & all will be right in TIBSville .

 

 

Oh ya, ok, the Durham report, whatever 

 

Trump corruptly worked with a mass murdering terrorist to undermine an American election and you are ok with that 

[Irv]

On 5/16/2023 at 10:22 AM, Tiberius said:

 

 

A former aide to former Trump attorney Rudolph Giuliani says he told her the ex-New York City mayor and then-president Donald Trump were offering to sell presidential pardons for $2 million apiece, according to court documents.

The bombshell allegation was levied in a complaint filed against Mr Giuliani by Noelle Dunphy, a New York-based public relations professional who is suing him for “unlawful abuses of power, wide-ranging sexual assault and harassment, wage theft, and other misconduct” committed while she worked for him in 2019 and 2020.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rudy-giuliani-said-he-and-trump-were-selling-pardons-for-dollar2m-apiece-ex-aide-claims/ar-AA1bdXfh

She then states that Mr Giuliani asked her “if she knew anyone in need of a pardon” because he was “selling pardons for $2 million, which he and President Trump would split”.

“He told Ms Dunphy that she could refer individuals seeking pardons to him, so long as they did not go through “the normal channels” of the Office of the Pardon Attorney, because correspondence going to that office would be subject to disclosure under the Freedom of Information Act,” the suit added.

 

Another lie.  This is becoming a thing with you.