Players that ARE HOF inductees but should NOT be

[Big Turk]

Playing off the other thread asking who you thought should be in the HOF but isn't, this is the reverse.

 

Who is in the HOF that you don't believe belongs?

 

I'll start with Art Monk and Terrell Davis.

[DJB]

OJ Simpson

 

 

 

Edited May 15, 2023 by DJB

[Einstein]

What's the point of asking this question? What we answer doesn't change anything.

 

(Just trying out my Big Turk impression whenever someone else starts a thread )

[Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD]

Lynn Swann

He was a part of a Pittsburg team that won championships, but he never even had a single 1000 yard season and he isn't even in the top 250 players in all-time receiving yards.

 

For comparison, Ted Ginn Jr (who was considered a bust at wr) has more receiving yards than him.

[McMuffin]

Joe Namath

[947]

6 minutes ago, McMuffin said:

Joe Namath

Agreed!

 

Namath played 13 seasons, and he less than 50% completion rate in 7 of them. He had more TDs than INTs in only 1 of his 13 seasons.

 

His best season was 4,004 yards, 26 TDs, 28 INTs, 52.5% Completion.

 

Career completion rate of 50.1% does not belong in the HOF, regardless of era. Career 173 TDs with... 220 INTs.

 

 

[JPL7]

Terrell Davis

Bryant Young
Cortez Kennedy

[LABILLBACKER]

Terry Bradshaw....similar argument to Namath.

[Rico]

That’s easy, Zack Thomas.

[McMuffin]

1 hour ago, Rico said:

That’s easy, Zack Thomas.

Zac Thomas was 5 times 1st team AP I think? Plus other accolades. He was a heckuva player.  

[chongli]

2 hours ago, Big Turk said:

Playing off the other thread asking who you thought should be in the HOF but isn't, this is the reverse.

 

Thank you for spelling "inductees" correctly in your title. 😃

[Momma Pecoraro]

Bob Uecker

[hondo in seattle]

2 hours ago, Allen2Diggs said:

Lynn Swann

He was a part of a Pittsburg team that won championships, but he never even had a single 1000 yard season and he isn't even in the top 250 players in all-time receiving yards.

 

For comparison, Ted Ginn Jr (who was considered a bust at wr) has more receiving yards than him.

 

The selectors look at stats, honors (All Pro, etc.), and rely heavily on their own memories.  And that last fact is problematic.  Selectors don't watch every regular season game.  But they do watch the playoffs and they certainly watch Super Bowls.  So guys with good playoff and Super Bowl credentials, like Swann, get in.  

 

This will be controversial, but I believe if Eric Moulds played for that Steeler team, he'd be in the HOF instead of Swann.  But Moulds has no chance because his career in Buffalo was barely noticed despite his talent.    

[Roundybout]

1 hour ago, JPL7 said:

Terrell Davis

Bryant Young
Cortez Kennedy

 

Terrell Davis carried Denver to two Super Bowls. 

 

 

if anything, it makes Elway look bad...

[Mark Vader]

Cris Carter

Warren Sapp

[Roundybout]

2 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

Cris Carter

Warren Sapp

 

Can you explain on Sapp a little? I mean, four-time All-Pro, 1999 DPOY, Super Bowl ring, 96.5 career sacks...

[PatsFanNH]

1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Terry Bradshaw....similar argument to Namath.

I’ll defend Bradshaw in this way. Unlike Namath, whose D won him that one SB. While Bradshaw won 4 and was responsible for a couple of them.. 

[hondo in seattle]

1 hour ago, 947 said:

Agreed!

 

Namath played 13 seasons, and he less than 50% completion rate in 7 of them. He had more TDs than INTs in only 1 of his 13 seasons.

 

His best season was 4,004 yards, 26 TDs, 28 INTs, 52.5% Completion.

 

Career completion rate of 50.1% does not belong in the HOF, regardless of era. Career 173 TDs with... 220 INTs.

 

 

 

I mostly agree about Namath not belonging, BUT...

 

Professional football used to be more about running than passing.  Namath was one of the very first gunslingers.  In 1967, Namath became the first pro quarterback to pass for over 4,000 yards.  The feat wasn't repeated for another 12 years when Dan Fouts did it with Air Coryell.  

 

And, remember, when the AFL and NFL merged, the AFC was considered the junior league.  Namath's confidence going into the third Super Bowl as huge underdogs was memorable.  The Jets victory, with Namath as MVP, changed the AFC's perception and helped the popularity of the league.  

 

I don't know if you ever watched Namath play.  I did.  He was a beat-up, weak-kneed wreck in the second half of his career.  In his prime, he was a real threat.  

[Mark Vader]

3 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

 

Can you explain on Sapp a little? I mean, four-time All-Pro, 1999 DPOY, Super Bowl ring, 96.5 career sacks...

Got more credit than he deserved on a Buccaneers defense that was loaded. Went to the Raiders and mailed in his career.

 

I know I'm in the minority on Sapp. Just my opinion.

[DrBob806]

Kevin Greene

Troy Polomalu

 

There's simply way too many Steelers in the HOF. If Polomalu didn't have that long mane of hair, nobody would know who he was.