ExiledInIllinois Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 1 hour ago, BillsPride12 said: About 35 years too late on this one How about 60+ lol 2 1 1 Quote
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 (edited) Just looked... Macy's parade has been going on since 1924. Only during the War years was it suspended. I would push my statement above to possibly 100 years. Heck... Christmas wasn't even celebrated (as an official gov't holiday ) in the US until after the Charles Dickens popularity. There's argument that it has always been commercialized! Edited May 12, 2023 by ExiledInIllinois Quote
Saxum Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 There was a commercial locally for a few years which summarizes my feelings: "Buy a gift for your trusty Toyota." Stupid and over commercialized. I can understand buying a gift for a pet - a pet has no concept of Christmas but can feel the enthusiasm and want to participate in activities opening a present but a car is brainless like advertising executives. I change radio stations which play Christmas music before Thanksgiving. One plays it constantly once it starts for weeks before Thanksgiving and plays all Christmas music until post Christmas. It goes with the Christmas commercials. Recently in May I heard a Christmas commercial. 1 Quote
Brit Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 37 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Just looked... Macy's parade has been going on since 1924. Only during the War years was it suspended. I would push my statement above to possibly 100 years. Heck... Christmas wasn't even celebrated (as an official gov't holiday ) in the US until after the Charles Dickens popularity. There's argument that it has always been commercialized! Talking of Dickens... writers before Dickens were already complaining about Chrismas becoming too commercialised. I think it pretty much ALWAYS hasa been. I suspect there is a good chance there were Roman nobles complaining about the commercialisation of Saturnalia back in the day... 1 1 Quote
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 42 minutes ago, Brit said: Talking of Dickens... writers before Dickens were already complaining about Chrismas becoming too commercialised. I think it pretty much ALWAYS hasa been. I suspect there is a good chance there were Roman nobles complaining about the commercialisation of Saturnalia back in the day... Bingo! Pagans celebrated birthdays, Christians the day of martyrdom (of the saints). /EndThread #ChristmasHasAlwaysBeenCommercialized Quote
BillsPride12 Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 6 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: How about 60+ lol Well I didn't think it was too commercialized when I was 7 but you're probably right! Quote
muppy Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 (edited) clearly more secular than celebrating Jesus birthday. I personally gave up the ghost when I see Christmas stuff being put up for display/ sale and is is still summer. Not atoll commercialized nope Nope NOPE 🙃 Edited May 12, 2023 by muppy 1 Quote
Process Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 By far my least favorite holiday. 100% because of gift giving. Otherwise it would be great, Quote
Fleezoid Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 Commercialized is a problem, but there's a bigger issue IMO. The fact that it's steamrolling Thanksgiving, and even Halloween to a small degree, in to a 3-month holiday is the most recent problem. I'd like to propose a referendum to limit all Christmas related activities to 12 days. Just like the carol. While I'm at it, if I see that Hershey Kiss, "Wish you a Merry Christmas "commercial one more time, I'm going postal on my TV. At least be creative with new advertising. They just mail it in every year. Bah Humbug!! 1 Quote
Nextmanup Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 Christmas is what you make of it. Has corporate America tried to exploit the holiday as an excuse to make money? Yes, for about a century. But that is to be expected, as greed is America's national pastime. Well that, and mass shootings. Quote
dpberr Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 Perhaps less. It may have been at peak commercialization when malls (and disposable income in the US) were in their prime, and the amount of intellectual property being pumped out by the entertainment industry was high. Much of the beloved Christmas entertainment stock - the songs, the shows, were made decades ago by people from a different generation. There's very little new content. We still watch Rudolph from 1964. Mariah Carey's Christmas songs came out in 1994. Elf was made twenty years ago! (2003). There used to be close to 22,000 Christmas tree farms in the US, as of 2002. Today, it's less than 15,000. The NFL would have never dared run a game on Black Friday even in the early 2000s, not to mention the 1990s. Nobody would have had the time to watch it. Black Friday was an event day to be out shopping. Quote
Draconator Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 I am Father Christmas, but I lost 2 lbs since Monday. So there's still a chance. Quote
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 The question really should be: Are they trying too hard to put religion into a holiday that it should have never really belonged in? Quote
Augie Posted May 13, 2023 Posted May 13, 2023 On 5/12/2023 at 8:23 AM, Process said: By far my least favorite holiday. 100% because of gift giving. Otherwise it would be great, I felt bad, but I wanted you to be happy. That is the only reason I didn’t get you something. Quote
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