Emmanuel Acho’s Top 5 AFC Teams

[716to540]

Who is Emanuel Acho and why does he matter??

[90sBills]

This is his payback for backing the Bills as the best all of last year then got disappointed. But not having Bills in the top 5 of the AFC is ridiculous not matter how you look at it. 

[Chaos]

17 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I agree that the Bills haven’t reached their potential in the playoffs. Personally, I would have been fine if they moved on from McDermott for that reason.

 

At the same time, the Bills have won more playoff games in this era than any of those teams including playoff wins over 2 of them. If we are using “they have to prove it in the playoffs” that actually works in the Bills favor vs. those 3 teams. 

Ravens head coach had won a Super Bowl with the Ravens.  

[Kirby Jackson]

4 hours ago, Chaos said:

Ravens head coach had won a Super Bowl with the Ravens.  

He has.
 

When I say, “this era” it really is since Allen/Lamar came in. Tua was next and now Rodgers but it really refers to the last 5 years.
 

After all, we are discussing the present(ish) makeup of these teams. The Miami team that finished 4.5 games behind the Bills in 2022 is not that much different than the 2023 team. The Bills team isn’t that much different from 2022. If we are assuming that the 4.5 game gap has closed, we must be assuming that the situation for Miami will be improving while the Bills situation regresses. The players/coaches have not changed enough to warrant that gap being closed. Logically, I don’t understand that argument that Baltimore, NY and Miami will ALL improve so much that they will pass a 13-3 Bills team with 3 losses by a combined 8 points. This Bills team is largely the same, and improved in any ways.

[GunnerBill]

10 hours ago, Zerovoltz said:

The talking heads gotta talk about something...so they do crap like this.

 

Just look at Vegas Odds....Bills third best fav to win SB at most books.  That's top 3 or top 2 in the NFL.  Follow the money, not the talking heads.

 

Also...if ever a team was set to regress, it's the Bengals.  I will tell anyone who will listen...Orlando Brown is going to get Joe Burrow killed.  

 

Orlando Brown is good and he is definitely better than Jonah Williams. So if Burrow has survived that I think he is pretty indestructable.

[CSBill]

We end this nonsense in week 1 with a convincing win over the Jets.

[DCofNC]

On 5/11/2023 at 7:05 AM, Kirby Jackson said:

They finished 6.5 games ahead of the Jets, 4.5 games ahead of Miami and 3.5 games ahead of Baltimore. It is unreasonable to think that the Bills regressed enough for ALL of those teams to have closed that chasm. It’s not like a game separated them!!

Look at what happened to all of the QBs for those teams and ask yourself if you think the Bills would even win a single game without JA.

3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

He has.
 

When I say, “this era” it really is since Allen/Lamar came in. Tua was next and now Rodgers but it really refers to the last 5 years.
 

After all, we are discussing the present(ish) makeup of these teams. The Miami team that finished 4.5 games behind the Bills in 2022 is not that much different than the 2023 team. The Bills team isn’t that much different from 2022. If we are assuming that the 4.5 game gap has closed, we must be assuming that the situation for Miami will be improving while the Bills situation regresses. The players/coaches have not changed enough to warrant that gap being closed. Logically, I don’t understand that argument that Baltimore, NY and Miami will ALL improve so much that they will pass a 13-3 Bills team with 3 losses by a combined 8 points. This Bills team is largely the same, and improved in any ways.

I don’t see the Bills winning 13 games this year even playing 17.  Competition is better, all three teams up mentioned went extended periods without their starting QB, his argument makes perfect sense.  Those teams improved their rosters and the Bills were stagnant, or possibly regressing on talent over all.  It’s bound to be the JA show again.

[Doc]

1 hour ago, DCofNC said:

Look at what happened to all of the QBs for those teams and ask yourself if you think the Bills would even win a single game without JA.

I don’t see the Bills winning 13 games this year even playing 17.  Competition is better, all three teams up mentioned went extended periods without their starting QB, his argument makes perfect sense.  Those teams improved their rosters and the Bills were stagnant, or possibly regressing on talent over all.  It’s bound to be the JA show again.

 

The Bills aren't even close to "stagnant," much less regressing in talent over all.  Unless you think letting TE go negates the myriad of moves they made in FA and their draft picks.

Edited May 13, 2023 by Doc

[Kirby Jackson]

1 hour ago, DCofNC said:

Look at what happened to all of the QBs for those teams and ask yourself if you think the Bills would even win a single game without JA.

I don’t see the Bills winning 13 games this year even playing 17.  Competition is better, all three teams up mentioned went extended periods without their starting QB, his argument makes perfect sense.  Those teams improved their rosters and the Bills were stagnant, or possibly regressing on talent over all.  It’s bound to be the JA show again.

So the argument and justification is that the Bills will have to play without their QB but the Dolphins, Ravens and Jets will all play with their QB?

 

It is a weird enough argument to start selecting, before the season, which QBs will be healthy. It’s even weirder when you are selecting Lamar, Tua and a 39 year-old Aaron Rodgers to be healthier than Allen. 

Edited May 13, 2023 by Kirby Jackson

[CincyBillsFan]

1 hour ago, DCofNC said:

Look at what happened to all of the QBs for those teams and ask yourself if you think the Bills would even win a single game without JA.

I don’t see the Bills winning 13 games this year even playing 17.  Competition is better, all three teams up mentioned went extended periods without their starting QB, his argument makes perfect sense.  Those teams improved their rosters and the Bills were stagnant, or possibly regressing on talent over all.  It’s bound to be the JA show again.

I see it completely differently:

 

*  IMO the Bills had a very good off season. 

 

*  I believe they significantly upgraded their O line with the addition of 3 new guards.

 

*  They added size and diversity to their RB room with the addition of 2 solid NFL RB's.

 

*  They improved their WR room through addition of 2 new vets and letting McKenzie go.

 

*  They had what looks to be a good draft with their top 3 picks all potentially starting in week one.

 

*  They will miss Edmonds but they added vet help on the D Line and in the D backfield.

 

*  They surprisingly kept Poyner & Phillips on the D.

 

*  McD calling the defensive plays is going to be a big improvement over Frazier.

 

*  Dorsey should improve going from his "rookie" season to his 2nd season as OC.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[buffaloboyinATL]

On 5/11/2023 at 4:50 AM, Kirby Jackson said:

 

BuffaloboyinATL’s top 5 Acho’s

 

1.  nAcho cheese

2. Sam Acho

3. Achoo  (aka sneeze)

4. Acho software (data application development platform)

5. Acho! Acho! (Episode 13 of anime series PaRappa the Rapper)

 

Sorry Emmanuel, it appears that you did not make my list either.  

[noacls]

The Bills did not look good for the last bit of the season and in the playoffs. They have  a lot to prove. 

 

Also add in some teams improving in the off-season.

[SUNTANBILLS FAN]

Funny how we have peaked? The jets are hoping old ass Arron Rodgers has gas left. Wait till his first bad game and the New York press gets him. The dolphins have one concussion away from retirement Tua. And we got rid of Leslie i can't stop 3 rd and forever. 

[Kirby Jackson]

1 hour ago, noacls said:

The Bills did not look good for the last bit of the season and in the playoffs. They have  a lot to prove. 

 

Also add in some teams improving in the off-season.

It’s amazing how popular this narrative has become. It’s just not true. The Bills looking average was superior to about every team. They won 8 consecutive games prior to the playoff loss. 

Edited May 13, 2023 by Kirby Jackson

[FireChans]

1 hour ago, noacls said:

The Bills did not look good for the last bit of the season and in the playoffs. They have  a lot to prove. 

 

Also add in some teams improving in the off-season.

 

23 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

It’s amazing how popular this narrative has become. It’s just not true. The Bills looking average was superior to about every team. They won 8 consecutive games prior to the playoff loss. 

Add in that just about every team “improves” in the off-season lol.

 

Our HC and QB have won the AFCE what, 3 years in a row? But of course, we are due for 8-9 says the battered Bills fans.

Edited May 13, 2023 by FireChans

[Kirby Jackson]

4 minutes ago, FireChans said:

 

Add in that just about every team “improves” in the off-season lol.

 

Our HC and QB have won the AFCE what, 3 years in a row? But of course, we are due for 8-9 says the battered Bills fans.

It’s weird right? Somehow it was remembered that they were “struggling” despite winning 8 straight games. For some perspective, 17 teams won 8 or fewer games 😂. 
 

We are at the point where everyone else has gotten better and the Bills have regressed. These teams didn’t just close the gap. In one case they are surpassing a 6.5 game gap because of a 39 year-old Aaron Rodgers. The same Aaron Rodgers that had a lower passer rating than Andy Dalton in 2022. This has been a weird offseason and the battered Bills fans are back!!! We are weeks away from threads about the team moving to Toronto.
 

 

[FireChans]

3 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

It’s weird right? Somehow it was remembered that they were “struggling” despite winning 8 straight games. For some perspective, 17 teams won 8 or fewer games 😂. 
 

We are at the point where everyone else has gotten better and the Bills have regressed. These teams didn’t just close the gap. In one case they are surpassing a 6.5 game gap because of a 39 year-old Aaron Rodgers. The same Aaron Rodgers that had a lower passer rating than Andy Dalton in 2022. This has been a weird offseason and the battered Bills fans are back!!! We are weeks away from threads about the team moving to Toronto.
 

 

Heaven forbid the Bills lose week 1. we will be talking about trading Josh and Von for a “king’s ransom” to start the 9 year rebuild and achieve the most important thing of all, cap space.

[extrahammer]

15 hours ago, 716to540 said:

Who is Emanuel Acho and why does he matter??

 

He's a schtick. He still thinks Tua is the best QB in the NFL and Justin Herbert is overrated. 

[Dr. Who]

12 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

It’s weird right? Somehow it was remembered that they were “struggling” despite winning 8 straight games. For some perspective, 17 teams won 8 or fewer games 😂. 
 

We are at the point where everyone else has gotten better and the Bills have regressed. These teams didn’t just close the gap. In one case they are surpassing a 6.5 game gap because of a 39 year-old Aaron Rodgers. The same Aaron Rodgers that had a lower passer rating than Andy Dalton in 2022. This has been a weird offseason and the battered Bills fans are back!!! We are weeks away from threads about the team moving to Toronto.
 

 

There was surmise of the team not being set to stay in Buffalo in a thread just a few weeks ago (it was an unpleasant thread with ghoulish speculation, so I leave it at that.) 

 

Given a truly exceptional harrowing season with injuries, tragedies, and weather displacements, it's somewhat incredible they managed 13 regular season wins including the 8 consecutive you note. Folks are just blowing all that off because the Bills were steamrolling teams early which made later struggles appear to be more a failure than they were. Then the Bills made some cavalier mistakes in the playoff against the Dolphins that allowed the Phish to hang around in a game they otherwise didn't belong in followed by the absolute dud against Cincy. The post-season cemented a narrative for many. Same fans, I suspect, assume the unprovable assertion that we would have played just as poorly in the truncated Bengals game. The cumulative effect of swimming upstream for so long took its toll and I do think one can question both first year Dorsey and Frazier's approach to the post-season. The former has more tools to work with, ostensibly an improved IOL and a year to acclimate to OC. The latter is gone and one hopes McD will at least be more aggressive against top qbs rather than using the passive, bend-don't break strategy that works best against average and subpar qbs.

 

The notion that all that adds up to stagnancy or that the Bills have peaked is utter non-sense. As long as your franchise qb is in his prime and you hit on enough of your draft picks, the window is always going to be open. What you can say is that typically head coach franchise qb combinations win a SB early in the relationship. I think two years ago Allen was poised to make that happen and the 13 seconds fiasco derailed what I suppose a high probability, though it can never, of course, be proven. Another early exit from the playoffs would put McD on the hotseat, but the team itself is no more destined to fall back to the pack then GB who was considered a perennial SB contender as long as Rodgers was at qb.   

[Augie]

On 5/11/2023 at 6:22 AM, Aussie Joe said:

Who the fook is that guy? 

 

He’s the guy who is a Nick Wright wannabe, without the annoying KC homerism. Stole a page from his playbook to make a name for himself, it seems. No click is a bad click! He never met a click he didn’t like, that’s the name of the game.