Levi Wallce buried on depth chart; if he's cut...?

[boyst]

Levi Wallce is buried behind Patrick Peterson and once projected starter Ahkello Witherspoon. Joey Porter, Jr. comes in with lots of fanfare and will be shoved down everyone's throats Tevon Diggs style, while fellow rookkie Cory Trice is also in Pittsburgh.

 

He is owed $5.5mm while a hit of only $1.5mm.

 

If he was cut should we consider bringing him back to Buffalo as a depth CB behind White, Elam, Jackson and Benford (who maybe moving to safety?).

[PrimeTime101]

Just now, boyst said:

Levi Wallce is buried behind Patrick Peterson and once projected starter Ahkello Witherspoon. Joey Porter, Jr. comes in with lots of fanfare and will be shoved down everyone's throats Tevon Diggs style, while fellow rookkie Cory Trice is also in Pittsburgh.

 

He is owed $5.5mm while a hit of only $1.5mm.

 

If he was cut should we consider bringing him back to Buffalo as a depth CB behind White, Elam, Jackson and Benford (who maybe moving to safety?).

for starters he won't be cut. If porter pans out then Levi still stays as a dime back.

 

Levi passer rating allowed when thrown to him last year was an abysmal 74.6. While Pff coverage overall has him at 59.3.

 

the dude has lost his touch. I do not want him period. let our rookies LEARN! 

 

 

[Don Otreply]

I have reconsidered, as depth he would be fine, at what we were paying him, or slightly more…, am I wrong? 

 

 

Edited May 10, 2023 by Don Otreply

[streetkings01]

He’s one of those players that only fits our system.

[GunnerBill]

7 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

for starters he won't be cut. If porter pans out then Levi still stays as a dime back.

 

Levi passer rating allowed when thrown to him last year was an abysmal 74.6. While Pff coverage overall has him at 59.3.

 

the dude has lost his touch. I do not want him period. let our rookies LEARN! 

 

 

 

That isn't that bad and it is better than Tre White was last year. 

 

I wouldn't bring Levi back to start, but if they want to bring him back as depth to fight for a spot I wouldn't hate it. 

[Prospector]

I am pretty sure his shorts decide if he gets cut or not.

[Rocky Landing]

I've always admired his attitude. From the time we brought him in as a UDFA, he fought endlessly for his position on the team, and really made the most of his opportunities. But, it's all going to depend on what color shorts he's wearing.

[BuffaloBillyG]

The bigger question may very well be: If he's cut why would he want to come back and potentially be buried on the Bills depth chart? Have to imagine he would have options for some teams that have a path for him to see the field.  CBs are always in demand. 

[DrDawkinstein]

22 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

the dude has lost his touch.

 

 

 

When did he have his touch? 🤣

 

Jokes aside, because I do believe part of Levi's "struggles" were based on how our Defensive system pushes the ball to the #2 option, I'd welcome him back for depth. He's a better CB5 option than Jamarcus Ingram or Kyler McMichael. Especially once the injury bugs start biting.

 

White

Elam

(Johnson)

Benford

Dane Jackson

Wallace

(Lewis/Neal)

 

Nice looking group imo.

[MrEpsYtown]

I was never fan. Nice player, nice story. But meh

[Logic]

Well, that's the thing with Levi: He's good enough -- provided he's in the right system -- to be a dependable starter.

But he's also a guy you're perpetually going to be thinking you can upgrade from. I think the Bills feel that they've done so with Elam/Benford/Jackson opposite Tre. I'm betting the Steelers went into the offseason with a goal of doing so, as well.

Wallace will have a long career in this league, but he's never going to be a star or a big money guy.

IF he gets cut -- which I doubt -- and wants to come play here for vet minimum, then great. Probably not gonna happen.

Edited May 10, 2023 by Logic

[FireChans]

Just now, DrDawkinstein said:

 

When did he have his touch? 🤣

 

Jokes aside, because I do believe part of Levi's "struggles" were based on how our Defensive system pushes the ball to the #2 option, I'd welcome him back for depth. He's a better CB5 option than Jamarcus Ingram or Kyler McMichael. Especially once the injury bugs start biting.

 

White

Elam

(Johnson)

Benford

Dane Jackson

Wallace

(Lewis/Neal)

 

Nice looking group imo.

I wouldn't even go that far.

 

You just have to look at the starting groups he mostly worked with.

 

Prime Tre White (All-Proish)

Prime Hyde (All-Proish)

Prime Poyer (All-Proish)

Taron Johnson

Levi Wallace

 

I know who I would be targeting as an OC and trying to get action on.  Being the relative "worst" defender among some elite defenders means you're going to see a heck of a lot of passes from the offense.

 

To Levi's credit, when Tre went down and the targets spread more evenly to him and Dane, those "struggles" disappeared for the rest of the year until the playoffs.

[mushypeaches]

If he were to come back and push Cam Lewis off the team, that would be outstanding

[Captain Hindsight]

I forgot this dude existed 

[FireChans]

36 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

for starters he won't be cut. If porter pans out then Levi still stays as a dime back.

 

Levi passer rating allowed when thrown to him last year was an abysmal 74.6. While Pff coverage overall has him at 59.3.

 

the dude has lost his touch. I do not want him period. let our rookies LEARN! 

 

 

That was 36th in the NFL lmao.  What do you expect out of a number 2 CB? 

 

Btw, Elam allowed 96.3 passer rating (162nd in the NFL), and Benford 84.1 (99th in the NFL) last season.

 

Do we just say things to say them now?

[MJS]

34 minutes ago, streetkings01 said:

He’s one of those players that only fits our system.

Yep, the Bills knew how to use him and cover up some of his weaknesses. But the Bills tried every year to replace him.

40 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

for starters he won't be cut. If porter pans out then Levi still stays as a dime back.

 

Levi passer rating allowed when thrown to him last year was an abysmal 74.6. While Pff coverage overall has him at 59.3.

 

the dude has lost his touch. I do not want him period. let our rookies LEARN! 

How is that passer rating against bad? That seems pretty decent. That makes him a starting corner in the NFL.

[FireChans]

Just now, MJS said:

Yep, the Bills knew how to use him and cover up some of his weaknesses. But the Bills tried every year to replace him.

citation needed.  Drafting DBs in the 7th isn't "trying to replace your starter" level investment.

[MJS]

Just now, FireChans said:

citation needed.  Drafting DBs in the 7th isn't "trying to replace your starter" level investment.

They brought in vet corners in free agency as well.

[PrimeTime101]

4 minutes ago, FireChans said:

That was 36th in the NFL lmao.  What do you expect out of a number 2 CB? 

 

Btw, Elam allowed 96.3 passer rating (162nd in the NFL), and Benford 84.1 (99th in the NFL) last season.

 

Do we just say things to say them now?

and where exactly does it say that was 36th in the nfl? 

[dave mcbride]

34 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

That isn't that bad and it is better than Tre White was last year. 

 

I wouldn't bring Levi back to start, but if they want to bring him back as depth to fight for a spot I wouldn't hate it. 

74.6 is actually great. An 80 passer rating is the new Mendoza line and the very best defenses generally have overall team defense passer ratings in the mid-70s. The collective passer rating against SF's defense last year was 82.7.

Edited May 10, 2023 by dave mcbride