BigDingus Posted January 17 Posted January 17 Maybe let him punt in a SINGLE regular season game once before starting his career in the playoffs... Who knows how much he's even been practicing. I'm sure he'd say he's been keeping up with it, but who knows? Maybe he has drawn some interest, but he's not on a team for a reason. Quote
NoSaint Posted January 17 Posted January 17 Meh. I don’t care as long as he doesn’t shank one 10 yards catch the ball and boot it deep. Can be all touchbacks for all I care this week 1 Quote
Bob Jones Posted January 17 Posted January 17 6 hours ago, mannc said: Probably true. Araiza may be a talented punter but he’s never punted in an NFL game and hasn’t punted in any game in more than two years. This is the playoffs and weather conditions won’t be ideal. There are experienced punters on the street who can fill in. Hell, we signed Martin off the street and he did just fine. Small point, but as mentioned earlier, he punted for the Bills in preseason in August of 2022, so that’s NOT two years ago. More like one year and four months. Quote
wppete Posted January 17 Posted January 17 Why not? Would be a good move. He has been exonerated right? Weren’t the charges proven false? 1 Quote
Starr Almighty Posted January 17 Posted January 17 Let's play a no punt game like we did with Kelly vs the 9ers 1 Quote
Doc Posted January 17 Posted January 17 23 minutes ago, wppete said: Why not? Would be a good move. He has been exonerated right? Weren’t the charges proven false? There were never any charges. Just accusations. 3 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted January 17 Posted January 17 43 minutes ago, Bob Jones said: Small point, but as mentioned earlier, he punted for the Bills in preseason in August of 2022, so that’s NOT two years ago. More like one year and four months. Okay, fine. He had one Pre-Season game and 1 punt in that game of NFL action. He missed the entirety of the 2022 and 2023 regular season campaigns. So not technically exactly two calendar years. But two regular seasons. Quote
hondo in seattle Posted January 17 Posted January 17 20 minutes ago, Doc said: There were never any charges. Just accusations. Never charged. Never arrested. Never tried. Never convicted. 2 2 Quote
aristocrat Posted January 17 Posted January 17 46 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said: Let's play a no punt game like we did with Kelly vs the 9ers Bad against the pats a few years ago Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted January 17 Posted January 17 (edited) 14 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: Never charged. Never arrested. Never tried. Never convicted. True. But admitted to relations with an underaged girl. Yes, he didn't know. But for many around the country, even with some members of this very board, that doesn't matter. It's a matter of public record and whoever signs him will be signing the Punter who was accused of Gang R*pe and the Punter who Admitted to Sex with a Minor. Cleared or not, that title will follow him for the rest of his career and most GM's don't want to deal with that for a Punter. And before you say, i'm sure he's not the only one to have made that mistake - you may be right. But the difference is his is a matter of public record. You may be willing to think it's not a big deal and just a mistake. But many will disagree with that. Edited January 17 by BillsFanForever19 2 1 Quote
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 17 Posted January 17 8 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Come on down Matt Haack I believe he is on his way. He just takes those giant slow strides, So it is taking him a while. 1 2 Quote
SoCal Deek Posted January 17 Posted January 17 Anybody know if Beasley or John Brown can punt? 1 1 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted January 17 Posted January 17 7 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I believe he is on his way. He just takes those giant slow strides, So it is taking him a while. Yeah, it's pretty obvious to me that either Sam Martin is able to push through the tweak or Matt Haack is being signed to the Practice Squad. Quote
Doc Posted January 17 Posted January 17 (edited) 11 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: True. But admitted to relations with an underaged girl. Yes, he didn't know. But for many around the country, even with some members of this very board, that doesn't matter. It's a matter of public record and whoever signs him will be signing the Punter who was accused of Gang R*pe and the Punter who Admitted to Sex with a Minor. Cleared or not, that title will follow him for the rest of his career and most GM's don't want to deal with that for a Punter. And before you say, i'm sure he's not the only one to have made that mistake - you may be right. But the difference is his is a matter of public record. You may be willing to think it's not a big deal and just a mistake. But many will disagree with that. Who cares? Opinions are like... There was actually no allegation of gang rape. And despite admitting to having sex with a girl who was 17, he avoided charges because she portrayed herself as being legal. It's a non-story now. Edited January 17 by Doc 1 2 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted January 17 Posted January 17 7 minutes ago, Doc said: Who cares? Opinions are like... There actually no allegation of gang rape. And despite admitting to having sex with a girl who was 17, he avoided charges because she portrayed herself as being legal. It's a non-story now. Again, that's how you feel. That's not how everyone feels or will feel. Even around here, there's multiple posters who label him a "pervert". "Who cares? Opinions are like..." is not how NFL GM's think. Distractions and Public Relations issues carry a lot of weight. And when it comes to a position like Punter, even the remote chance of a PR problem isn't worth the trouble. Quote
QLBillsFan Posted January 17 Posted January 17 27 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: True. But admitted to relations with an underaged girl. Yes, he didn't know. But for many around the country, even with some members of this very board, that doesn't matter. It's a matter of public record and whoever signs him will be signing the Punter who was accused of Gang R*pe and the Punter who Admitted to Sex with a Minor. Cleared or not, that title will follow him for the rest of his career and most GM's don't want to deal with that for a Punter. And before you say, i'm sure he's not the only one to have made that mistake - you may be right. But the difference is his is a matter of public record. You may be willing to think it's not a big deal and just a mistake. But many will disagree with that. The guy deserves the opportunity to make a living. He clearly has the talent. He’s only said good things about the Bills since he was released. So he may not have been completely clear with the Bills and that trust may have been broken. The only reason that the Bills would not consider him. But the rest of the NFL? Quote
Doc Posted January 17 Posted January 17 2 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Again, that's how you feel. That's not how everyone feels or will feel. Even around here, there's multiple posters who label him a "pervert". "Who cares? Opinions are like..." is not how NFL GM's think. Distractions and Public Relations issues carry a lot of weight. And when it comes to a position like Punter, even the remote chance of a PR problem isn't worth the trouble. The court of public opinion already had their way with him and were proven wrong. Virtually no one (there's always a few in every crowd) is going to picket or boycott games just because Araiza is on the team. 1 2 Quote
Don Otreply Posted January 17 Posted January 17 23 hours ago, CSBill said: There we go. That would be bigger than bringing the punt God back. Nothing is bigger than the PUNT GOD!!!! 1 Quote
UKBillFan Posted January 17 Posted January 17 Bringing back Araiza now wouldn’t be fair on him. Over the close season, I’d be happy to see him back, although Martin’s been brilliant for the Bills in recent weeks. But now they’d be too much pressure and expectation on him, which could affect his standing long term. Quote
Bob Jones Posted January 17 Posted January 17 24 minutes ago, Doc said: It's a non-story now. It should have been a non-story back in the summer of 2022 when these baseless, money grabbing, FALSE accusations surfaced. I was very disappointed when the Bills immediately succumbed to the pitchfork wielding MeToo mob. What they should have done is immediately put a lid on it, just like they did with the Kim Pegula situation. All they had to do was show a little loyalty and backbone, and if any media tools brought it up, say “no comment, we will not be answering any non football related questions about Matt Araiza.” Araiza and Bills players could have been instructed to say the same thing. Any media hack who pressed on could have been banned from OBD. The Bills lame excuse of “he needs to go take care of the situation” was crapola. He NEVER needed to be in CA, since he was never charged, and never served or subpoenaed. As an FYI, PLENTY of NFL players have been accused of various “immoral” actions, and most of them have not been immediately cut by their teams. I think they should do the right thing and bring him back, if not this week, then before the start of training camp for sure. 2 2 1 1 Quote
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