davefan66 Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: nope, if you are that close with this offense, you go for it. With this offense? Have you not been watching the last few weeks? 3 hours ago, Bob Jones said: How do you know that MA hasn’t been working on that part of his game? I mean, he’s had a lot of free time, so I would assume that he’s not just sitting on the couch watching MeTV. And of course you can’t deny that he has one of the strongest legs in recent years. You did see that 80 yarder during the preseason, right? Yes. Saw the 80 yarder. That’s why in my post I said “net over 50”. Has he been working on short kicks? Hope so if he wants to stick on a team if he’s picked up. Edited November 7, 2023 by davefan66 Quote
RyanC883 Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 1 minute ago, davefan66 said: With this offense? Have you not been watching the last few weeks? I have. I'd still go for it. Or just punt a touchback. Depends on where we are. Can't give teams like Cincy or other good offenses short fields, esp. with the current state of the D. Would rather be able to get out of our own end and then give a touchback on a punt. Quote
Logic Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 I mean this kindly and humbly, and with all sincerity: Punter is the absolute least of the Bills' worries. No punter on earth would change the Bills' record or fix their primary shortcomings this season. We can take the genetics of Ray Guy, Brian Moorman, Lionel Messi, and a kangaroo, put them in a petri dish, mix 'em up, and create a perfect Franken-punter, and it still won't fix what ails the Bills. 1 1 Quote
Doc Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 The legal stuff is old news. But I thought his civil trial was supposed to have started already. Did they cancel it for lack of evidence like they should have? 1 Quote
TheBrownBear Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 8 hours ago, davefan66 said: Ok, dude would kill the ball from the 10 yard line and net over 50. Fine. Just wait until he is asked for a shorter coffin corner punt and he fails. Will there be “bring back Martin threads”? Proof that we should carry two punters. Oh, and bring back Taiwan Jones, too. 1 Quote
Pecos Bills Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Sherlock Holmes said: Speak for yourself ****boi,, we're here to support Araiza, deal with it and eat your Crow! Change your diaper. 1 Quote
Success Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 He's a boomer, but Martin IS much better in directional punts and pinning teams inside the 20. Quote
JoPoy88 Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Ah gotcha. I still would have like them to state "innocent until proven guilty". Instead they caved to "me too" and media pressure. Kinda funny if the Bills would’ve said that, since they aren’t a criminal court and that evidentiary standard doesn’t apply to them at all. 7 hours ago, BillsFan692 said: Hard pass -- just because he wasnt found guilty does not mean he was found innocent. Prosecuters declined to go after him based on single eye witness testimony from one of Arizas friends. So no one even had a chance to weigh his guilt really I couldn’t give less of a **** about Araiza either way, but this isn’t even close to the truth. There were a multitude of things that went into the prosecution’s decision not to pursue charges. The alleged victim was a trainwreck and not the least bit credible by witness standards. Multiple people disputed the alleged victim’s account, including people who know and did not know Araiza. Cell phone data and videos also contradicted her accounts, including her assertion that Araiza was present inside the house during the gang assault. Edited November 7, 2023 by JoPoy88 1 1 Quote
damj Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 Or ..... let's play offense where we don't need to punt 7 times in a row 1 Quote
BuffaloMatt Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 11 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Here we go again with this. There was a MASSIVE thread about it when this news dropped months ago. But now we realize Martin is a liability. Quote
bigK14094 Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 I am thinking that if he returns to the NFL, he may well not want to be with the Bills who canned him without due process. I know I would not return to such an employer. 4 hours ago, Livinginthepast said: Araiza's civil trial wont be until February next year. So he will have to wait until then to have any chance of an NFL comeback. There's a good chance that he will be exonerated at that trial too. He should countersue imho. Quote
EasternOHBillsFan Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 32 minutes ago, BuffaloMatt said: But now we realize Martin is a liability. Martin's not a liability... he hasn't cost us one single game. The fact that there is an obsession over a punter when we have so many more serious problems is disturbing 1 Quote
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 12 hours ago, SydneyBillsFan said: I was thinking of this a few weeks ago. Martin is hot and cold like a motel shower. Bringing in a zero experience punter who hasn’t played in 2 years will surely fix that. 1 Quote
Doc Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 55 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: I am thinking that if he returns to the NFL, he may well not want to be with the Bills who canned him without due process. I know I would not return to such an employer. He should countersue imho. Yeah but no other team signed him either. 1 Quote
Augie Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 9 hours ago, ProcessTruster said: Sure. Bring back the punt g-d! If we can help remove the curse, I’d be all for it! 1 Quote
without a drought Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 Bad offense leads to punter talk. 2 1 Quote
dollars 2 donuts Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) Sweet gobbly-guck did I really fall asleep for a few minutes only to wake up and it is already May 2024 TSW? Edited November 7, 2023 by dollars 2 donuts Quote
rusty shackleford Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 1 minute ago, without a drought said: Bad offense leads to punter talk. Reminds me of the drought years. Quote
Sherlock Holmes Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Pecos Bills said: Change your diaper. You can do the honors 1 Quote
BuffaloMatt Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: Martin's not a liability... he hasn't cost us one single game. The fact that there is an obsession over a punter when we have so many more serious problems is disturbing My post was an indictment of Martin, not in support of MA. Martin is great punting from the 30 yard line or better. He's old and his leg is limited. Not gonna save us if we start within our own 10-15 yard line (like we did three times versus Cincy) and go three and out. Cincy worked short fields all game and sent Martin a game ball. Edited November 7, 2023 by BuffaloMatt 1 Quote
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