This should be fun. Mike Clay:

[Big Turk]

Maybe a few spots too low, but pretty fair. Shows how good Allen is. What do you think Burrow or Hurts would do with the 20th ranked WR corp?

[Sierra Foothills]

10 hours ago, corta765 said:

Why are people upset? This is pretty accurate.

Heading into last year the unit had more unknown but positive feelings on the WR corp as Gabe looked unreal in the post season ready to take the next step and McKenzie had some big games that also feel that way plus Crowder/Shakir were thought to be ready for the slot.

 

Now we unfortunately know Gabe isn't a true WR2 and more a WR3 type guy, they realllyyy need a slot guy with Beasley gone but they are expecting that from Kincaid, and Shakir while showing promise needs to do more and the only other additions are lower intrigue FA guys. Their certainly not bad, but after Diggs they currently have a lot of WR3/4/5 esq guys and they need to hope someone elevates to a WR2 spot or the group itself elevates.

 

Who's upset?

 

5 hours ago, Gugny said:

I’m still struggling to understand how one’s bad ankle prevents his hands from catching perfectly thrown passes. 

 

In the second half of last year the Buffalo News reported that Davis was playing through a thumb injury... FWIW.

 

[Beck Water]

 

10 hours ago, Heavy Kevi said:

I would prob rank us 5 or so spots higher, but I'm not going to argue.

 

Gabe had an ok year, but many were expecting a meteoric rise and that just plain did not happen.

 

The new TE isn't going to move the needle in WR rankings.

 

We've got some intriguing young players but none that have shown anything amazing just yet

 

The thing about KC's ranking is that their best receiver is not a WR but a TE

The Bills would like to move in the direction of one of our top 3 WR being a TE I believe.  That's what the draft implies.

[Mr. WEO]

15 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Think the Cowboys, Commanders, 49ers, Jags, Bears and Jets are too high.

 

Bills, Saints, Ravens, Colts and Lions too low.

 

 

 

Why the Ravens?

[machine gun kelly]

15 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

 

A top WR in receptions and yards a couple years in a row is 20th?

 

Im out.  A guy with two ACL’s (OBJ) and out of the league all last year is higher than Diggs.

 

I saw enough.  I’ll agree with several above Diggs, but not even too 10.  Moron.

[ALF]

A team's total receiving yards tell a more accurate story.

 

https://www.nfl.com/stats/team-stats/offense/receiving/2022/reg/all

Edited May 9, 2023 by ALF

[GunnerBill]

42 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

Why the Ravens?

 

Because while their top end might not be as strong as others, question mark on OBJ given he hasn't played for a year, I think they have 4 vet guys who can all play in the league. It's a bit like the Chiefs group from last season. And then Flowers who adds a bit of juice. I think they are deep even without an elite guy. 

[eball]

The Bills are middle of the pack (i.e., anywhere from 12-20).  Anyone who suggests they should be higher is a homer, and anyone who suggests they should be lower is a contrarian or has an axe to grind.

 

[SoCal Deek]

Seems like a bit of a name recognition beauty contest to me. The Bills were in the Top Six in passing yardage last year (assuming they’d played all 17 games). SOMEBODY must be catching those passes….no? 

[PBF81]

17 hours ago, BuffaloBill said:

Hard to argue against the idea that the Bills are not in the top 10.  As much as I love Diggs he disappears at times. 

 

Most notably in the playoffs.  

 

 

[PBF81]

15 hours ago, Goin Breakdown said:

IF we all agree with this list (it's probably not too far off), it just goes to show now much this team relays on Josh. 

 

And while unpopular, how bad our drafts have been.  I mean where do most people think that Cincy for example got their WRs.  

[PBF81]

14 hours ago, BuffBillsForLife said:

Where is the lie?  I could move Buffalo up to like 16 because Diggs is great but after him it's a wasteland.

 

This place cracks me up, and this is absolutely no reflection on you, just speaking generally.  You just seem to mimic the more-than-not consensus on this perfectly.  But after we signed Harty & Sherfield I argued that those signings wouldn't move the needle and propel us upward in our receivers and took a rash for it.   ... And now this thread.  LOL  That's the best thing about this place, it never gets boring, even if it is schizophrenic.   

 

 

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Because while their top end might not be as strong as others, question mark on OBJ given he hasn't played for a year, I think they have 4 vet guys who can all play in the league. It's a bit like the Chiefs group from last season. And then Flowers who adds a bit of juice. I think they are deep even without an elite guy. 

 

Well the difference is the Chiefs have Mahomes making use of a group like that and the Ravens have Jackson (when he's able).  OBJ was putting up Gabe Davis stats in the season before he again shredded his knee.  Other than him, they didn't have a WR over 500 yards last year.  Adding Agholor, who is solidly in the journeyman phase of his career doesn't move the needle.  Sure, they have a few guys who can play in the league--but I wouldn't put them above the Bills crew as it is going into the season.  

[GunnerBill]

33 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Well the difference is the Chiefs have Mahomes making use of a group like that and the Ravens have Jackson (when he's able).  OBJ was putting up Gabe Davis stats in the season before he again shredded his knee.  Other than him, they didn't have a WR over 500 yards last year.  Adding Agholor, who is solidly in the journeyman phase of his career doesn't move the needle.  Sure, they have a few guys who can play in the league--but I wouldn't put them above the Bills crew as it is going into the season.  

 

I wouldn't put them above the Bills either. But I'd move them up above some of those teams I think are too high. 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

13 hours ago, Gugny said:

I love Gabe and I agree with you!  But I think the ankle excuse is weak.  He misses some catchable passes, but he’s also had a lot of inaccurate passes thrown his way. In short, I’m glad we have him and I think he’s a solid #2 (absolutely NO pun intended)!

Agree. Ankle is no excuse. What's odd is he makes some really difficult sideline catches and then misses a few easy ones. Hopefully he cleans that up this year 

Still doubt they can afford him. 

Four years of decent production on a cheap contract followed by a decent comp pick is good value. 

[Gugny]

31 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Agree. Ankle is no excuse. What's odd is he makes some really difficult sideline catches and then misses a few easy ones. Hopefully he cleans that up this year 

Still doubt they can afford him. 

Four years of decent production on a cheap contract followed by a decent comp pick is good value. 

Yup. Knox had a similar first couple years, re: dropping easy ones and catching difficult ones - and he was able to improve. Hopefully Gabe can, too. 

[Kaenon]

The hate on Gabe on this forum is ridiculous.

 

How many other notably drafted WRs by the Bills went on to record 1950+ yards and 20 TDs in their first 3 seasons?

 

(4th) A. Reed? Yes on yards (2128), no on TDs (16)

(1st) Moulds? No (1942 yards, 11 TDs)

Price? Yes on yards (2050), no on TDs (13)

(2nd) J. Reed? No

(1st) Evans? Yes on yards (2878), and yes on TDs (24)

(2nd) Parrish? No 

(2nd) Hardy? No 

(7th) S. Johnson? No

(3rd) TJ Graham? No

(2nd) Woods? No

(3rd) Goodwin? No

(2 1sts) Watkins? Yes on yards (2459), no on TDs (17)

(2nd) Z. Jones? No

 

Statistically speaking, Davis's first 3 seasons are among the best of recent, modern-era NFL WRs drafted by the Buffalo Bills.

[LABILLBACKER]

On 5/8/2023 at 11:59 AM, C.Biscuit97 said:

What was it last year? It’s hilarious how much people loved Davis last year and now he’s a bum. 
 

pretty good list. Washington is too high. Chicago did a great job remaking a trash group. Jags could be higher.
 

Wonder how some bills fans will discount Mahomes if he does awesome wirh this group (Rice could be a stud).

Agree...Commanders, Bears and Saints way too high.  Ravens too low. We should be around 16-17?  Hopefully Gabe plays like a man possessed and Shakir/Harty step up. Now if you had a TE duo ranking, we'd probably be top 3 or higher. 

[GoBills808]

13 hours ago, Kaenon said:

The hate on Gabe on this forum is ridiculous.

 

How many other notably drafted WRs by the Bills went on to record 1950+ yards and 20 TDs in their first 3 seasons?

 

(4th) A. Reed? Yes on yards (2128), no on TDs (16)

(1st) Moulds? No (1942 yards, 11 TDs)

Price? Yes on yards (2050), no on TDs (13)

(2nd) J. Reed? No

(1st) Evans? Yes on yards (2878), and yes on TDs (24)

(2nd) Parrish? No 

(2nd) Hardy? No 

(7th) S. Johnson? No

(3rd) TJ Graham? No

(2nd) Woods? No

(3rd) Goodwin? No

(2 1sts) Watkins? Yes on yards (2459), no on TDs (17)

(2nd) Z. Jones? No

 

Statistically speaking, Davis's first 3 seasons are among the best of recent, modern-era NFL WRs drafted by the Buffalo Bills.

How many of those guys had 3 years of catching passes from Josh Allen

List is fine btw

 

 

[GunnerBill]

14 hours ago, Kaenon said:

The hate on Gabe on this forum is ridiculous.

 

How many other notably drafted WRs by the Bills went on to record 1950+ yards and 20 TDs in their first 3 seasons?

 

(4th) A. Reed? Yes on yards (2128), no on TDs (16)

(1st) Moulds? No (1942 yards, 11 TDs)

Price? Yes on yards (2050), no on TDs (13)

(2nd) J. Reed? No

(1st) Evans? Yes on yards (2878), and yes on TDs (24)

(2nd) Parrish? No 

(2nd) Hardy? No 

(7th) S. Johnson? No

(3rd) TJ Graham? No

(2nd) Woods? No

(3rd) Goodwin? No

(2 1sts) Watkins? Yes on yards (2459), no on TDs (17)

(2nd) Z. Jones? No

 

Statistically speaking, Davis's first 3 seasons are among the best of recent, modern-era NFL WRs drafted by the Buffalo Bills.

 

It has gone a bit 180. Last year at this time he was getting too much hype. This off season he has got too much hate. The reality has always been somewhere in the middle.