Wizard Posted May 6, 2023 Posted May 6, 2023 Nick Foles would be a more talented QB than K. Allen or M. Barkley. I like that he has won big games and that he is a big and strong QB like Allen. Obviously, K. Allen is a close friend and Barkley knows the system. Would not feel comfortable with anyone but #17 leading the team, yet Foles has shown to be reliable to win games when thrust into starting off the bench. Wondering if bringing Foles in for due diligence is the best call or not mess with the Bromance of Josh and his buddies. 1 Quote
ganesh Posted May 6, 2023 Posted May 6, 2023 I think Foles will probably cost us a salary cap hit of $5-10M. Allen is cheaper. Quote
Wizard Posted May 6, 2023 Author Posted May 6, 2023 Well, if that is true, no thanks. He was cut by the Colts Quote
Big Turk Posted May 6, 2023 Posted May 6, 2023 Foles is an example of a player who catches lightning in a bottle a few times but never can sustain it or even regain anything close to it ever again. It happens randomly out of nowhere and then it's gone just as quick. A bunch of teams have paid him a lot of money hoping to see some lightning only to get a dud. 2 2 Quote
BigAl2526 Posted May 6, 2023 Posted May 6, 2023 One more negative with Foles is the fact that he is a statue. Dorsey would have to alter the play calling significantly if Foles had to play any length of time. Quote
John from Riverside Posted May 6, 2023 Posted May 6, 2023 I’m trying to figure out why everybody clowns on Kyle Allen I mean, yeah, he’s friends with Josh Allen But the guy has NFL experience not only that he has NFL winning experience. Has he been a starter for a whole season? No but he has won games In addition to that his personal strengths, match our 2° no he’s not Josh Allen nobody is but he’s mobile and he’s got an arm on him I’m looking forward to seeing what he can do in camp 2 1 2 Quote
Zag20 Posted May 6, 2023 Posted May 6, 2023 2 hours ago, John from Riverside said: I’m trying to figure out why everybody clowns on Kyle Allen I mean, yeah, he’s friends with Josh Allen But the guy has NFL experience not only that he has NFL winning experience. Has he been a starter for a whole season? No but he has won games In addition to that his personal strengths, match our 2° no he’s not Josh Allen nobody is but he’s mobile and he’s got an arm on him I’m looking forward to seeing what he can do in camp Hell oui! Looking forward to him getting action with a 21 point 4th quarter lead in several games this season. 1 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted May 6, 2023 Posted May 6, 2023 Beane isn't the type to sign more than one veteran to have a competition for the backup job. He picks one guy in Free Agency and that's the guy. Whether or not you think we could do better than Kyle Allen - he's the backup. 1 Quote
Buffalo Boy Posted May 6, 2023 Posted May 6, 2023 4 hours ago, John from Riverside said: I’m trying to figure out why everybody clowns on Kyle Allen I mean, yeah, he’s friends with Josh Allen But the guy has NFL experience not only that he has NFL winning experience. Has he been a starter for a whole season? No but he has won games In addition to that his personal strengths, match our 2° no he’s not Josh Allen nobody is but he’s mobile and he’s got an arm on him I’m looking forward to seeing what he can do in camp In 2018, he started off better than Josh. A guy at work ( Panthers fan and dick) took a lot of pleasure sending me the weekly QB power rankings and telling me we got the wrong Allen. I think KA strung together 5 wins and there was local talk in Clt about them possibly having their new Franchise QB😂 Amazing how dump offs to a healthy McCaffery can pad a QBs stats. I don’t dislike him as our backup but if Josh goes down for any extended period of time the Real Wrong Allen is only going as far as our O line/Running game and Cook out of the back field on dump offs get us. Quote
John from Riverside Posted May 6, 2023 Posted May 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: In 2018, he started off better than Josh. A guy at work ( Panthers fan and dick) took a lot of pleasure sending me the weekly QB power rankings and telling me we got the wrong Allen. I think KA strung together 5 wins and there was local talk in Clt about them possibly having their new Franchise QB😂 Amazing how dump offs to a healthy McCaffery can pad a QBs stats. I don’t dislike him as our backup but if Josh goes down for any extended period of time the Real Wrong Allen is only going as far as our O line/Running game and Cook out of the back field on dump offs get us. I just think you could say that about any QB we’re going to have if he won say two out of three games if Josh was not behind center that would be a success 2 Quote
HamSandwhich Posted May 6, 2023 Posted May 6, 2023 I disagree with your premise that he’s better at all. He had a good run and is piggy backing off of that since. He’s been pedestrian in limited time since. Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 6, 2023 Posted May 6, 2023 Some members here were clamouring for Trubisky to start the week after performing 'mop up' duty in a Bills romp. This ought to be good. 🤨 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted May 6, 2023 Posted May 6, 2023 Nope. He had that 1 storybook ending of a season and is closer to out of the league than being useful on the field now. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted May 6, 2023 Posted May 6, 2023 10 hours ago, Big Turk said: Foles is an example of a player who catches lightning in a bottle a few times but never can sustain it or even regain anything close to it ever again. It happens randomly out of nowhere and then it's gone just as quick. A bunch of teams have paid him a lot of money hoping to see some lightning only to get a dud. Only one team paid him "a lot of money"--the Jags at 30 mil for one year (because they are a joke). Other than that, he has mostly been on rosters as a backup since he won the SB with Philly (worked out well for the Eagles, no?) and he has been paid backup money. As for who I would pick for backup? Foles all day long over Kyle Allen. He had 1 almost mediocre season as starter, the rest he's been a dud as a backup. 1 1 Quote
FireChans Posted May 6, 2023 Posted May 6, 2023 11 hours ago, Wizard said: Nick Foles would be a more talented QB than K. Allen or M. Barkley. I like that he has won big games and that he is a big and strong QB like Allen. Obviously, K. Allen is a close friend and Barkley knows the system. Would not feel comfortable with anyone but #17 leading the team, yet Foles has shown to be reliable to win games when thrust into starting off the bench. Wondering if bringing Foles in for due diligence is the best call or not mess with the Bromance of Josh and his buddies. Backup QB may be the least important position on this roster. I would rather pay a gunner than a backup QB and I hate gunners. Quote
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 6, 2023 Posted May 6, 2023 10 hours ago, John from Riverside said: I’m trying to figure out why everybody clowns on Kyle Allen I mean, yeah, he’s friends with Josh Allen But the guy has NFL experience not only that he has NFL winning experience. Has he been a starter for a whole season? No but he has won games In addition to that his personal strengths, match our 2° no he’s not Josh Allen nobody is but he’s mobile and he’s got an arm on him I’m looking forward to seeing what he can do in camp He’s not good john. We have a bottom 5 backup qb situation. Foles shows you how important having a good backup is. I have nothing against Kyle. I’m just against bad qbs. As a bills fan, I can recognize bad qbs prettt easy. I’d love to upgrade the position. I would float a 7th for Willis on the Titans and see if we can develop him here. 2 Quote
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted May 6, 2023 Posted May 6, 2023 12 hours ago, Big Turk said: Foles is an example of a player who catches lightning in a bottle a few times but never can sustain it or even regain anything close to it ever again. It happens randomly out of nowhere and then it's gone just as quick. A bunch of teams have paid him a lot of money hoping to see some lightning only to get a dud. Sounds a lot like Daniel Jones. Quote
prissythecat Posted May 6, 2023 Posted May 6, 2023 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: He’s not good john. We have a bottom 5 backup qb situation. Foles shows you how important having a good backup is. I have nothing against Kyle. I’m just against bad qbs. As a bills fan, I can recognize bad qbs prettt easy. I’d love to upgrade the position. I would float a 7th for Willis on the Titans and see if we can develop him here. Really? Didn't you spend seasons propping up EJ even after it was obvious he sucked? Lol Quote
Gugny Posted May 6, 2023 Posted May 6, 2023 If Allen goes down, the Bills are done, regardless of who the backup is. Quote
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