CBS 2023 QB Power Rankings

[GunnerBill]

8 minutes ago, eball said:

 

When it comes to QBs I think a “tier” ranking system makes more sense.  I think there are only four QBs right now I would build a franchise around without question:  Mahomes, Josh, Burrow, and Herbert.  Rodgers is out because of age, and Hurts is still a question mark for me.

 

 

Agree tiers work better and argue among yourselves within tiers. Personally not sure Herbert belongs with the other 3 though. He is more in the Hurts club just below.

[Bobby Hooks]

I could quibble a bit here, but fact is, the Bills have the most exciting qb in the league. 
 

Being anywhere close to top 5 was dream potential in the 20 year drought. So I’ll just take it and look forward to next season. With that said, If it was my list he’s #2 and it not just the homer in me. 
 

There’s not one thing that Burrow and Hurts can do that Allen can’t, the same cannot be said for them. 

Edited May 8, 2023 by Bobby Hooks

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

If there were bets on who likely will improve the most, of the QB's rated in bottom half, I'd put my money on R Wilson.  Not that I really think he will be better, but just that he's the one bottom rated QB that at one time was really good, probably top 5 rated in past.  So for that would bet on him as he's the one guy who has played at top level now rated low.

 

Do agree too, Allen should be ahead of Hurts

[ganesh]

5 hours ago, Bobby Hooks said:

I could quibble a bit here, but fact is, the Bills have the most exciting qb in the league. 
 

Being anywhere close to top 5 was dream potential in the 20 year drought. So I’ll just take it and look forward to next season. With that said, If it was my list he’s #2 and it not just the homer in me. 
 

There’s not one thing that Burrow and Hurts can do that Allen can’t, the same cannot be said for them. 

Allen definitely ranks poor in turnovers compared to both Burrow and Hurt.   In the recently concluded playoffs,  Allen had 3 TDs, 3 INTs and 3 Fumbles (1 Lost).   In the playoffs, 

These turnovers or potential fumbles (that causes loss of yards) are back breakers in the playoffs where field position is so critical. 

 

I agree with you that Allen is the MOST EXCITING QB to watch in the league and he is the best QB for the Bills.  He will have to elevate his game to beat Mahomes, Hurts and Burrows on the way to winning a SB.

[CincyBillsFan]

47 minutes ago, ganesh said:

Allen definitely ranks poor in turnovers compared to both Burrow and Hurt.   In the recently concluded playoffs,  Allen had 3 TDs, 3 INTs and 3 Fumbles (1 Lost).   In the playoffs, 

These turnovers or potential fumbles (that causes loss of yards) are back breakers in the playoffs where field position is so critical. 

 

I agree with you that Allen is the MOST EXCITING QB to watch in the league and he is the best QB for the Bills.  He will have to elevate his game to beat Mahomes, Hurts and Burrows on the way to winning a SB.

Funny how praising Allen on a Bills message board gets posts like this in reply.  Seems odd to me.

 

And for the record if you're going to count Allen's one lost fumble how about counting his one rushing TD? That gives him 4 TD's and 4 TO's.

 

And what about Allen's 2021 playoff run?

 

And in Hurts one playoff game during the 2021 season he had 1 TD and 2 INT's.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ganesh]

1 hour ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Funny how praising Allen on a Bills message board gets posts like this in reply.  Seems odd to me.

 

And for the record if you're going to count Allen's one lost fumble how about counting his one rushing TD? That gives him 4 TD's and 4 TO's.

 

And what about Allen's 2021 playoff run?

 

And in Hurts one playoff game during the 2021 season he had 1 TD and 2 INT's.

 

 

 

 

 

 

It is not about whether Allen is better than Burrow or Hurts.  I want Allen to win a SB for the Bills.  We will always judge Allen against that as he has all the capabilities to win the big one.   His 2022 playoff record was poor. We scraped through Miami and then laid a egg at home against the Bengals.  He had a great 2021 playoffs and still fell short (for things outside his scope).   What is wrong in praising the man and at the same time criticizing him so that we can get a better Allen that will lift the Lombardi one day!

[PBF81]

7 of the top 8 in the AFC, w face 7 of the other top 9 besides Allen in 8 of our games, 5 of those on the road.  

[PBF81]

2 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Funny how praising Allen on a Bills message board gets posts like this in reply.  Seems odd to me.

 

And for the record if you're going to count Allen's one lost fumble how about counting his one rushing TD? That gives him 4 TD's and 4 TO's.

 

And what about Allen's 2021 playoff run?

 

And in Hurts one playoff game during the 2021 season he had 1 TD and 2 INT's.  

 

It's out defense that's the reason for our playoff losses.  In our last three playoff losses or D has allowed 27, 42, & 38 points.  It's not reasonable to expect your offense to have to put up 40-some points to win the game.  

 

This past season, of 13 playoff games, only one team scored more than 38.  Only two scored more than 35.  

 

In 2021, only one team allowed more than the 42 we allowed to the Chiefs, the Pats allowed 47 to us.  We and the Steelers allowed 42 to the Chiefs.  No other team allowed more than 34 besides the Chiefs to us.  

 

In 2020, only one team allowed more than the 38 we allowed to the Chiefs, the Steelers again allowed 48 in the WC round and in the same game the Browns allowed 37 to the Steelers.  Other than that, in the other 12 games the max points allowed was 32.  

 

We have two different defenses, a regular season defense which is good, and a playoff defense which isn't good.  

 

 

[CincyBillsFan]

9 hours ago, ganesh said:

It is not about whether Allen is better than Burrow or Hurts.  I want Allen to win a SB for the Bills.  We will always judge Allen against that as he has all the capabilities to win the big one.   His 2022 playoff record was poor. We scraped through Miami and then laid a egg at home against the Bengals.  He had a great 2021 playoffs and still fell short (for things outside his scope).   What is wrong in praising the man and at the same time criticizing him so that we can get a better Allen that will lift the Lombardi one day!

Criticizing Allen for things beyond his control is wrong.

 

Criticizing Allen for things that are contributing only a small amount to their playoff defeats while ignoring much bigger problems like:  horrible O line play, weak defensive performances and the lack of offensive play makers, is wrong.

 

Sure, Allen can get better.  But IMO the degree to which Allen's improvements gets us closer to a SB win is very small compared to other things that this team can do to get better.  If over the next 3 years Allen basically replicates his last 3 seasons and the Bills significantly improve the O line and add another play maker Buffalo will win a SB.  If Allen improves but the Bills don't improve their O line or add another true play maker they will continue to exit the playoffs before the Super Bowl. 

 

The problem is not REMOTELY related to Allen.  Allen is the reason the Bills are in the mix for a SB win every season.