SCBills Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 (edited) Second DT domino falls. Edited May 4, 2023 by SCBills Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 (edited) As expected. I would have been surprised if they didn't extend him. Edited May 4, 2023 by Alphadawg7 Quote
DCbillsfan Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 I have a hard time believing the Bills are willing to pay Oliver a similar type of contract. 4 2 1 Quote
SCBills Posted May 4, 2023 Author Posted May 4, 2023 With Lawrence signed, Quinnen Williams is definitely going to want something between Simmons and Donald. 1 Quote
HurlyBurly51 Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 15 minutes ago, DCbillsfan said: I have a hard time believing the Bills are willing to pay Oliver a similar type of contract. Yeah, there's no way they're giving him that kind of coin. Quote
Brand J Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 If he has a good year, I’d guess Oliver would sign in the $17M/yr range. Just like Edmunds before him, I don’t see the Bills offering that kind of second contract. 1 1 Quote
Pete Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 33 minutes ago, SCBills said: With Lawrence signed, Quinnen Williams is definitely going to want something between Simmons and Donald. Good go wreck the Jets salary cap 3 2 Quote
CaptnCoke11 Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 Oliver not even worth half of that contract 2 4 1 Quote
Billl Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Pete said: Good go wreck the Jets salary cap Paying great players doesn’t wreck salary caps. Paying mediocre players does. 5 4 Quote
Straight Hucklebuck Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 Yeah, this is an outdated way to build a team in my opinion. Paying DTs to huge money. Not a business I want the Bills to be in. Of course there are exceptions, Chris Jones. To some degree I don’t know how much value there is in paying DEs to massive deals, verses keeping a young pipeline going on the defensive line. Quarterbacks are too smart, get rid of the ball too quickly, for these pass rushers to get there reliably. Quote
msw2112 Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 Let Oliver see the dollar signs that he can get as a free agent next season. Maybe that motivates him to have a career year. He then gets paid by someone else and the Bills get a comp pick. If he plays that well, it benefits the Bills this upcoming season and the comp pick benefits in the future. Alternatively, if the Bills think he's had a "breakthrough" season and he becomes Aaron Donald 2.0, they have the opportunity to pay him. If he doesn't play well, he gets moved out of the rotation and/or leaves quietly to sign a more modest deal elsewhere. In the meantime, trading him now won't yield more than a mid-round pick, so the better bet is to see what they can get out of him this year. As stated somewhere above, if he can be traded for another player who might be a better fit or asset to the team, then yes, trade him. 1 1 Quote
Chicken Boo Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 (edited) Saquon Barkley is more *responsible for that team's success than any DT. I don't get it. Edited May 4, 2023 by Chicken Boo 1 2 Quote
TheBeaneBandit Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 46 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: No thanks, trade Oliver now Yes. Then sign another free agent DT left on the market. We'll be fine. Quote
78thealltimegreat Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 Boogie Basham counting the days till he gets bank….in the XFL 2 1 Quote
Bobby Hooks Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, KDIGGZ said: No thanks, trade Oliver now I dont get how this is still a thing people are saying. What exactly do you think you’re getting for him? What do you do about the gaping hole it leaves in a season where a Super Bowl is still a very real possibility and you already don’t have a mlb? The guy is not terrible, and he’s going to be performing for a big time contract. It’s very possible this is the hardest he ever plays. He’s on the last year of his deal, who’s trading away anything close the value he will bring to the team this season? Mind=boggled You know when all is said and done in the offseason the team has to play actual football games, right? Edited May 4, 2023 by Bobby Hooks 2 2 1 3 Quote
Big Turk Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 2 hours ago, DCbillsfan said: I have a hard time believing the Bills are willing to pay Oliver a similar type of contract. It's not happening and Oliver is smoking something if he thinks anyone else is going to give him that. 17 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said: I dont get how this is still a thing people are saying. What exactly do you think you’re getting for him? What do you do about the gaping hole it leaves in a season where a Super Bowl is still a very real possibility and you already don’t have a mlb? The guy is not terrible, and he’s going to be performing for a big time contract. It’s very possible this is the hardest he ever plays. He’s on the last year of his deal, who’s trading away anything close the value he will bring to the team this season? Mind=boggled You know when all is said and done in the offseason the team has to play actual football games, right? I would only trade him for a major piece on offense like DHop to balance the salary cap. Quote
balln Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 31 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Boogie Basham counting the days till he gets bank….in the XFL Beanes round 2 and 3 draft picks have been atrocious. No gems Quote
Estro Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 Oliver won't be signing for anything in Buffalo. You can't pay an undersized DT who's poor against the run and not a natural pass rusher. Listening to Greg Cosell, who puts in the work, refer to Oliver as a poor pass rusher was all I needed to hear. If another team wants to give him $12-16M a year, take the 4th round comp pick, admit you whiffed and move on. Next year the Bills will be looking for a solid DT in FA and perhaps yhe draft too. I'm fine with that. 1 2 Quote
Big Blitz Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 I do consider this a premium position - but only worth paying elite guys. Aaron Donald and Chris Jones have won 3 of the last 4 Super Bowls. I wish we had a Quentin Williams to pay. Quote
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