Lost Posted March 5 Posted March 5 3 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: The proposed new baseball stadium in Las Vegas, a dome, in the very heart of the Las Vegas strip, is budgeted for $300MM less than the Bills be stadium. I still can't wrap my brain around that. https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/athletics/updated-as-las-vegas-ballpark-renderings-revealed-3011874/ I can explain. When it's tax payer funded, the price goes up 300 percent. Quote
QCity Posted March 5 Posted March 5 18 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: The proposed new baseball stadium in Las Vegas, a dome, in the very heart of the Las Vegas strip, is budgeted for $300MM less than the Bills be stadium. I still can't wrap my brain around that. https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/athletics/updated-as-las-vegas-ballpark-renderings-revealed-3011874/ It's much smaller and my understanding is the land price (which has yet to be released) is not included in that $1.5B figure. Quote
Just Jack Posted March 5 Posted March 5 41 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: The proposed new baseball stadium in Las Vegas, a dome, in the very heart of the Las Vegas strip, is budgeted for $300MM less than the Bills be stadium. I still can't wrap my brain around that. https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/athletics/updated-as-las-vegas-ballpark-renderings-revealed-3011874/ Only seats 33,000. Quote The 33,000-fan capacity ballpark design Quote
mrags Posted March 5 Posted March 5 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: The proposed new baseball stadium in Las Vegas, a dome, in the very heart of the Las Vegas strip, is budgeted for $300MM less than the Bills be stadium. I still can't wrap my brain around that. https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/athletics/updated-as-las-vegas-ballpark-renderings-revealed-3011874/ What a shame. That looks like a work of art. Meanwhile we’re getting a giant turd bowl for more 1 Quote
SoCal Deek Posted March 5 Posted March 5 Are the A’s building an opera house? Who knew? 🤷🏼♂️ 3 Quote
JoPoy88 Posted March 5 Posted March 5 19 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Are the A’s building an opera house? Who knew? 🤷🏼♂️ Yeah the design inspiration is pretty obvious 😂 1 1 Quote
Einstein Posted March 6 Posted March 6 3 hours ago, Lost said: I can explain. When it's tax payer funded, the price goes up 300 percent. Im starting to agree with you. Because I do not understand why our stadium, with limited features and the most milquetoast design is costing so much, when other stadiums that are striking and wonderful cost about the same. 1 Quote
Bob Jones Posted March 6 Posted March 6 (edited) Just watched the video. At around the 12:20 mark they introduce 2 guys who apparently made a very real & very accurate miniature model of the new stadium, they talk about it for a while, then they show a group of people go in to the room to look at the model, and they all are in awe at the detail and awesomeness of the model, but in this video THEY NEVER SHOW A WIDE/COMPLETE SHOT OF THE MODEL, just some quick cuts of small parts of the model...WTF?!?!?! I get that they're teasing us, and want you to go in person to this place, but C'mon Man, that's just pathetic. Edited March 7 by Bob Jones Words 1 1 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted March 6 Posted March 6 Just now, Einstein said: Im starting to agree with you. Because I do not understand why our stadium, with limited features and the most milquetoast design is costing so much, when other stadiums that are striking and wonderful cost about the same. Nobody will know how aesthetic our stadium will look until you actually see it in person for the first time Everybody related to the bills organization has said it is going to be top notch and state of the art This board is filled with a bunch of whiners I'm thrilled my children and their children will get to watch the bills And the stadium will be beautiful Some people are never pleased and that's a fact 5 1 1 Quote
BarleyNY Posted March 6 Posted March 6 2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Are the A’s building an opera house? Who knew? 🤷🏼♂️ That’s perfect. They can have all of the horribly boring events at the same place. In all honesty, that’s a very, very cool design for a ballpark. Quote
The Avenger Posted March 6 Posted March 6 Buffaloes will be 16 feet tall but will have "emotion". I feel like David St. Hubbins when mini Stonehenge was lowered to the stage... 2 Quote
The Wiz Posted March 6 Posted March 6 1 hour ago, Bob Jones said: Just watched the video. At around the 12:20 mark they introduce 2 guys who apparently made a very real & accurate miniature model of the new stadium, they talk about it for a while, the show a group of people go in to the room to look at the model, and they all are in awe at the detail and awesomeness of the model, but in this video THEY NEVER SHOW A WIDE/COMPLETE SHOT OF THE MODEL, just some quick cuts of small parts of the model...WTF?!?!?! I get that they're teasing us, and want you to go in person to this place, bt C'mon Man, that's just pathetic. Imagine watching a trailer to a movie and thinking that the entire movie was going to be like that. 1 Quote
Blank Stare Posted March 6 Posted March 6 1 hour ago, Bob Jones said: Just watched the video. At around the 12:20 mark they introduce 2 guys who apparently made a very real & accurate miniature model of the new stadium, they talk about it for a while, the show a group of people go in to the room to look at the model, and they all are in awe at the detail and awesomeness of the model, but in this video THEY NEVER SHOW A WIDE/COMPLETE SHOT OF THE MODEL, just some quick cuts of small parts of the model...WTF?!?!?! I get that they're teasing us, and want you to go in person to this place, bt C'mon Man, that's just pathetic. Thought the same thing. But, then again, we still don’t have a damn drone fly-through view like literally every other new stadium, proposed or reality. I just don’t get why that’s so difficult to provide. Makes no sense. Now this. Tease us with another 17 minute video where they dance around it. Quote
eball Posted March 6 Posted March 6 Amazing to me how many sad sack fans want to b-i-t-c-h and moan about what is clearly going to be an awesome venue. You people act as though this was some knee jerk decision when so much thought and inspiration has obviously gone into the design. Just stay home. Plenty of us will happily be there. 2 1 3 1 1 Quote
Doc Brown Posted March 6 Posted March 6 2 hours ago, The Avenger said: Buffaloes will be 16 feet tall but will have "emotion". I feel like David St. Hubbins when mini Stonehenge was lowered to the stage... Pathetic. Could they only afford a 10 foot ladder? 1 Quote
sven233 Posted March 6 Posted March 6 (edited) With owning my own business, and the weekends being the busiest days of the week for me, buying season tickets was never going to be something that I could consider doing. I always try to sneak in at least 1 live game a season, but time just really doesn't allow me to do anything but watch on TV for the most part. So, in regards to the new stadium, I try not having too many criticisms about it because, while I would love to be there every week, I know this is a venue I won't be able to spend much time at. That said....do I have some things I wish were different, of course. Not having a venue that can be used year round for major events besides football doesn't make a lot of sense to me. But, then again, it was never going to be up to us. They were always going to build the stadium they wanted to build at the cost they deemed appropriate. But does that have to mean it's going to be bad or inferior to other new stadiums being built? Absolutely not. I am sure we won't have all the bells and whistles of a So-Fi Stadium or whatever, but does that make it worse? I don't think it does at all. I honestly believe that they put their best effort into this design and it will probably blow people away......even the people that are doing nothing but complaining about it before even seeing it for the first time. Will it have everything everyone wants? Of course not.....it doesn't have a roof, so some people just trash it because that was the main thing they were looking for. God forbid they wait and see everything else it may offer besides that. I wanted a roof too. I just think it was the logical choice given the area and expecting it to be a venue with the potential to host just about every major event out there at any time of the year. But they didn't go that way. It is what it is. Doesn't mean I am just going to just trash the rest of the stadium before ever stepping foot inside of it. The Bills will be here for the rest of my life. This stadium pretty much ensures that and that is the biggest amenity that this new stadium offers. Everything else is gravy. The thing is, I think that "everything else" is going to be so much better than most are even imagining. Enjoy this process. It really is a good thing even if it is not exactly what you personally had hopes for. PS...... The Buffalo statues should be a lot bigger than 16 feet, though. I see what they are trying to do, but at least one of them should be almost double that size. Edited March 6 by sven233 1 Quote
JoPoy88 Posted March 6 Posted March 6 8 minutes ago, sven233 said: With owning my own business, and the weekends being the busiest days of the week for me, buying season tickets was never going to be something that I could consider doing. I always try to sneak in at least 1 live game a season, but time just really doesn't allow me to do anything but watch on TV for the most part. So, in regards to the new stadium, I try not having too many criticisms about it because, while I would love to be there every week, I know this is a venue I won't be able to spend much time at. That said....do I have some things I wish were different, of course. Not having a venue that can be used year round for major events besides football doesn't make a lot of sense to me. But, then again, it was never going to be up to us. They were always going to build the stadium they wanted to build at the cost they deemed appropriate. But does that have to mean it's going to be bad or inferior to other new stadiums being built? Absolutely not. I am sure we won't have all the bells and whistles of a So-Fi Stadium or whatever, but does that make it worse? I don't think it does at all. I honestly believe that they put their best effort into this design and it will probably blow people away......even the people that are doing nothing but complaining about it before even seeing it for the first time. Will it have everything everyone wants? Of course not.....it doesn't have a roof, so some people just trash it because that was the main thing they were looking for. God forbid they wait and see everything else it may offer besides that. I wanted a roof too. I just think it was the logical choice given the area and expecting it to be a venue with the potential to host just about every major event out there at any time of the year. But they didn't go that way. It is what it is. Doesn't mean I am just going to just trash the rest of the stadium before ever stepping foot inside of it. The Bills will be here for the rest of my life. This stadium pretty much ensures that and that is the biggest amenity that this new stadium offers. Everything else is gravy. The thing is, I think that "everything else" is going to be so much better than most are even imagining. Enjoy this process. It really is a good thing even if it is not exactly what you personally had hopes for. PS...... The Buffalo statues should be a lot bigger than 16 feet, though. I see what they are trying to do, but at least one of them should be almost double that size. well put. And of course nothing here was going to approach SoFi - it ended up costing almost $6B. Quote
sullim4 Posted March 6 Posted March 6 2 hours ago, Einstein said: Im starting to agree with you. Because I do not understand why our stadium, with limited features and the most milquetoast design is costing so much, when other stadiums that are striking and wonderful cost about the same. New York State is a big reason. Everything - literally everything is more expensive. Labor, taxes, materials, insurance, stricter codes, more regulation, the weather - all of these things increase the cost of major construction projects in New York compared to elsewhere. Nevada is very much the polar opposite of much of that. The labor pool is much larger, the construction season doesn't have to deal with 3 foot snowstorms, and the laws there make it cheaper to build. My wife and I live outside of Seattle, not exactly a cheap place to live. I just had dinner with my parents this last weekend - they've lived out here now for a couple years after living in NYS for over 35 years. The biggest shock to them, which they still can't stop talking about - is how much cheaper it is to live out here. And like I said - Western Washington isn't particularly cheap. I will also wager to guess that yes - public funding drove up the price. You can bet that things like eco-friendly building materials, sustainable energy sources, and whatnot were part of the deal. 2 1 3 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted March 6 Posted March 6 17 minutes ago, sven233 said: With owning my own business, and the weekends being the busiest days of the week for me, buying season tickets was never going to be something that I could consider doing. I always try to sneak in at least 1 live game a season, but time just really doesn't allow me to do anything but watch on TV for the most part. So, in regards to the new stadium, I try not having too many criticisms about it because, while I would love to be there every week, I know this is a venue I won't be able to spend much time at. That said....do I have some things I wish were different, of course. Not having a venue that can be used year round for major events besides football doesn't make a lot of sense to me. But, then again, it was never going to be up to us. They were always going to build the stadium they wanted to build at the cost they deemed appropriate. But does that have to mean it's going to be bad or inferior to other new stadiums being built? Absolutely not. I am sure we won't have all the bells and whistles of a So-Fi Stadium or whatever, but does that make it worse? I don't think it does at all. I honestly believe that they put their best effort into this design and it will probably blow people away......even the people that are doing nothing but complaining about it before even seeing it for the first time. Will it have everything everyone wants? Of course not.....it doesn't have a roof, so some people just trash it because that was the main thing they were looking for. God forbid they wait and see everything else it may offer besides that. I wanted a roof too. I just think it was the logical choice given the area and expecting it to be a venue with the potential to host just about every major event out there at any time of the year. But they didn't go that way. It is what it is. Doesn't mean I am just going to just trash the rest of the stadium before ever stepping foot inside of it. The Bills will be here for the rest of my life. This stadium pretty much ensures that and that is the biggest amenity that this new stadium offers. Everything else is gravy. The thing is, I think that "everything else" is going to be so much better than most are even imagining. Enjoy this process. It really is a good thing even if it is not exactly what you personally had hopes for. PS...... The Buffalo statues should be a lot bigger than 16 feet, though. I see what they are trying to do, but at least one of them should be almost double that size. A 30 ft buffalo is over the top lmao Besides the stadium... How many 30-40 foot buildings are in OP ? Lmao Thing would be a skyscraper... 16 ft is close to a 2 story house Quote
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