Stadium Construction Discussion (No PSL/Seat selection posts)

[That's No Moon]

19 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

Look at the first row of seats for old stadium, and then compare with new stadium overlay. 

Closer, except, you know, not.

 This is place I will realistically go two, maybe three times in my life by the time it's built. The longer this process goes I realize the less I care.

[QCity]

21 minutes ago, mrags said:

It’s probably because they chinced out and literally copied the main blueprints for Tottenheim and because it’s a soccer field it’s larger. Pegula is cheap, couldn’t even pay for a new design 

 

Tottenham pitch is over 20 yards wider than an NFL field. I doubt that is true. More likely they cheaped-out on the graphic design team.

[TheWeatherMan]

3 hours ago, Steptide said:

What I've read from the engineers is that it is being built to block the wind and that it'll be nothing like the current stadium 

Not happening

[mrags]

28 minutes ago, QCity said:

 

Tottenham pitch is over 20 yards wider than an NFL field. I doubt that is true. More likely they cheaped-out on the graphic design team.

 

[Steptide]

2 hours ago, TheWeatherMan said:

Not happening

Why? The stadium is enclosed. It's not half under ground like the current stadium. Not sure why blocking the wind would be so impossible 

[Augie]

3 minutes ago, Steptide said:

Why? The stadium is enclosed. It's not half under ground like the current stadium. Not sure why blocking the wind would be so impossible 

 

I think we need to differentiate between “blocking” and “reducing.”  Nothing short of a dome will eliminate it, but I’ll be very interested to see how it works out. 

[The Wiz]

4 hours ago, Augie said:

 

I think we need to differentiate between “blocking” and “reducing.”  Nothing short of a dome will eliminate it, but I’ll be very interested to see how it works out. 

The thing I would like to know is the real life uses that this "wind confusion" meshing has been tested out/used in.

 

Can't help but think it's likely something that was designed for places that have never had snow let alone the amount that usually hits Buffalo.

Edited February 18 by The Wiz

[LeGOATski]

8 hours ago, LabattBlue said:

Look at the first row of seats for old stadium, and then compare with new stadium overlay. 

That's just the side profile of the seats. How are you confirming distance from the field if there is no field on the diagram?

[LabattBlue]

21 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

That's just the side profile of the seats. How are you confirming distance from the field if there is no field on the diagram?

I am guessing the dotted red line is where the sideline is. 

[LeGOATski]

4 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

I am guessing the dotted red line is where the sideline is. 

It's not. It's the slope of the upper level. See the blue dotted line for the current stadium? Obviously the field doesn't start underneath the stands in the current stadium.

[nedboy7]

Will this change the angle of TV coverage.  For example I hate the Jets games view. 

[mrags]

2 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

It's not. It's the slope of the upper level. See the blue dotted line for the current stadium? Obviously the field doesn't start underneath the stands in the current stadium.

I might argue with that. The first row in the sidelines may not be as low as the current stadium. I’m sure they would rather have some more space away from fans right on top of the players while on sideline. As well as it is likely better for the fans to be up 5’ compared to what it currently is now. The first few rows have a hard time seeing the action over the players on the sidelines as it is. End zones are likely free game and will be just as low. And from what I have seen they will offer field level seating in at least one end zone. There’s quite a few stadiums that have them. 

[TheWeatherMan]

11 hours ago, Steptide said:

Why? The stadium is enclosed. It's not half under ground like the current stadium. Not sure why blocking the wind would be so impossible 

Reduced impact for winds, yes.  No impacts from winds..not a chance.  
 

The best way I can describe is to have you do an experiment.  Grab an empty soda bottle and put a bunch of small pieces of paper in the bottom.  With the cap off (lol) blow across the top of the bottle.  What happens? 
 

When 50-70mph winds are blowing across the top of the the stadium some of that energy can mix down.  

[Doc Brown]

1 hour ago, TheWeatherMan said:

Reduced impact for winds, yes.  No impacts from winds..not a chance.  
 

The best way I can describe is to have you do an experiment.  Grab an empty soda bottle and put a bunch of small pieces of paper in the bottom.  With the cap off (lol) blow across the top of the bottle.  What happens? 
 

When 50-70mph winds are blowing across the top of the the stadium some of that energy can mix down.  

My wife suggests I see a shrink.

[Einstein]

On 2/15/2024 at 5:14 PM, SoCal Deek said:

 

Not this again. Just like the sun casts a shadow that isn’t straight down so does the roof cast a rain or snow ‘shadow’. So while one side will see rain hit the first few rows that are technically under the cover on one side, the other side will receive the equivalent but opposite benefit. Choose your seats accordingly. 👍

 

Not building a dome is going to be a topic of conversation for another 50 years 😂.

 

Especially in 20 years when the cost of domes will be $10 Billion, there will be a ton of fans screaming “we could have done it for only $500 million more!!!!”.

[Einstein]

19 hours ago, Steptide said:

What I've read from the engineers is that it is being built to block the wind and that it'll be nothing like the current stadium 

 

Can we ADD wind coming in from the sides to push Bass’s slices back inside the upright?

 

Im thinking some sort of dam system where we open large hydraulic doors that let in wind at key moments!

[BaaadThingsMan]

19 hours ago, Process said:

Honestly once Allen retires and the bills suck again I think they could have a very hard time selling out the stadium. 

 

Buffalo is too small of a market to support a bad team with high prices. 

 

Yes they sold out games during the drought years. But tickets were dirt cheap and people treated it like a party. 

 

Tickets will be much more expensive now. Plus the at home viewing experience is much better, and I think people are less willing to sit in garbage weather nowadays. 

Thanks Jurrah.

 

Jerry Jones forced this on Pegula and Pegs just rolled over for belly scratches.

 

Now the average fan will be forced out by the prices.

 

A buddy of mine, RIP Zach, was a 30 year season ticket holder and would have been one of the many who won't be able to afford them for the new place. 

[Ya Digg?]

28 minutes ago, BaaadThingsMan said:

Thanks Jurrah.

 

Jerry Jones forced this on Pegula and Pegs just rolled over for belly scratches.

 

Now the average fan will be forced out by the prices.

 

A buddy of mine, RIP Zach, was a 30 year season ticket holder and would have been one of the many who won't be able to afford them for the new place. 

So what would your solution have been? Just keep pumping hundreds of millions of dollars into the old stadium? Prices would still increase 

[Jrb1979]

1 hour ago, Ya Digg? said:

So what would your solution have been? Just keep pumping hundreds of millions of dollars into the old stadium? Prices would still increase 

They are in a hard spot. Either build a new stadium and price some people out or the team moves. 

[Saxum]

3 hours ago, BaaadThingsMan said:

Thanks Jurrah.

 

Jerry Jones forced this on Pegula and Pegs just rolled over for belly scratches.

 

Now the average fan will be forced out by the prices.

 

A buddy of mine, RIP Zach, was a 30 year season ticket holder and would have been one of the many who won't be able to afford them for the new place. 

 

Belly scratch and a leash.  Jurrah's company even gets a cut.  I wonder if he also had option to buy team first so he could be first owner with team in AFC and NFC.

 

Kim never would have gone for it.