K D Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 1 minute ago, CaptnCoke11 said: OL? Pretty big upgraded from last year.. WR also very much improved the bottom half of that group. Safety they also upgraded that position as a group. Safety I am counting our opening day roster vs this year. They added better depth with the guy from the Rams but starters the same. WR I disagree that we have improved until proven otherwise. Quote
SoCal Deek Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 1 minute ago, I'm Spartacus said: Is Taiwan history now? The island or the special teams player? 😉 1 6 1 Quote
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 Very nice RB group, harkens back to when NE had a bunch of different looks they threw at you. Don't need or want a bell cow in this day and age of football. 2 Quote
JohnBonhamRocks Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: Hello? We just drafted a Guard who didn't give up a sack his entire college career and was Consensus 1st Team All American in the SEC 6 1 Quote
K D Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Hello? We just drafted a Guard who didn't give up a sack his entire college career and was Consensus 1st Team All American in the SEC You have him starting over Bates? Let the kid get on the field before you say his is better than what we have. Bills traded up for Ford a few years back and everyone here loved that pick too 1 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Motorin' said: TJ Yeldon 3.0 Not even close. Latavius is a starting caliber back. Exceptional depth signing. Not to mention he's 6'3 230 2 1 Quote
Eastport bills Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 Now sign Ingram or Houston and bring it on. Beane is impressing with surgical acquisitions. How he’s creating cap space is miraculous. This offense will be tough to deal with if our O-line gets nasty. I’m becoming optimistic. 1 Quote
Dr. Who Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 Just now, KDIGGZ said: Same question McGovern and Edwards are free agents who are at minimum competent. Saffold is addition by subtraction. Torrence is probably a plug-in starting guard that will be solid for a decade. Broeker is a versatile and physical olineman that has a real chance to stick as a backup. If you can't see that as improvement, you need new glasses. 1 2 1 Quote
Dopey Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 13 minutes ago, DapperCam said: Maybe they will if they view Hines as strictly special teams? Maybe they have one less WR active in that case? Otherwise it will be Harris and Murray fighting it out for that last active spot every week. This is what I thought from the moment we traded for him. Quote
K D Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Dr. Who said: McGovern and Edwards are free agents who are at minimum competent. Saffold is addition by subtraction. Torrence is probably a plug-in starting guard that will be solid for a decade. Broeker is a versatile and physical olineman that has a real chance to stick as a backup. If you can't see that as improvement, you need new glasses. Sounds like wishful thinking Quote
TFBillsfan Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 Hard not to like this. Love the depth and competition at the RB position. Dorsey has lots of weapons to utilize and game plan for! Quote
Dr. Who Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: Some people are just miserable no matter There's willfulness involved. 1 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Dopey said: This is what I thought from the moment we traded for him. Hines has serious speed and good hands. I'd like to see him used on wheel routes a few times per game Edited May 1, 2023 by Warriorspikes51 2 1 Quote
Bruffalo Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 I'm kind of confused as to why. That's a crowded RB room. Is this some kind of competition for Harris? Quote
FireChans Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 12 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: This is how you running back, Beane. He has finally learned, 3 day 2 picks later. Quote
Motorin' Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Not even close. Latavius is a starting caliber back. Exceptional depth signing. Not to mention he's 6'3 230 He's definitely the better back. I just meant in terms of being the #4 RB on the 53 who is inactive on most game days. But yeah, I could see him contributing much more than Yeldon or Duke Johnson ever did. 2 Quote
hondo in seattle Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 I was pretty happy with the RB room already. This signing is a surprise. But you can never have too much talent - though only 53 make the team. Quote
Bruffalo Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 1 minute ago, SUNY_amherst said: It would be a good signing if they used him but I am not confident that they will Murray is better than Harris. Harris might not make it out of St. John Fisher I've got to disagree there. I think Harris is a better back all around. Quote
JohnNord Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 25 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Duke Johnson replacement? This is a really good signing for Buffalo. I would imagine the purpose of this is to stash him on the PS as a “break glass in case of emergency back” either due to injury or due to a RB sucking. I can’t see him active much on game day but given how banged up Damien Harris has been, some veteran injury insurance is not a bad move Quote
dave mcbride Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) Murray went to Onondaga Central High School (south of Syracuse and on the edge of the Finger Lakes). He's had a pretty solid career as a second tier RB: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MurrLa00.htm. Perhaps most importantly, he's had 10 fumbles on 1,703 touches in his career, which is a very low rate. And he's only fumbled three times in his last 1,075 touches, going back to the beginning of the 2017 season (by way of comparison, Devin Singletary has fumbled 13 times on 817 total touches). That is extraordinarily low, and people should never underestimate the value of the avoiding-fumbles skill for NFL coaches. The running game is supposed to be safe. Turnovers are OK in the passing game because the rewards are so much higher, but not in the running game where you're assuming a little over 4 yards per play on average. Edited May 1, 2023 by dave mcbride 9 Quote
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